Hey Guys. I would like to introduce myself again. I am a white 24yr old college student here in Sunny Central Florida. I have came back to the pheromone scene and wanted to welcome everybody to this thread. I would like to say that I enjoy helping others and well as finding information on what will definitely make me a better person now and into the future.
I have had my issues in life, everybody does but the one thing that I do have in mind is finding that someone that I can spend my life with and that has drawn me here to pheros. I haven’t had much experience with the opposite sex, girlfriend here girlfriend there. But I haven’t truely clicked with anybody and I feel that pheromones might be just that little push I need to build confidence and to find that special someone.
Now I do work two full time jobs and go to college, sounds hard to believe but i do it. My first job I am stuck at a grocery store behind a wall and counter so not much interaction with the ladies and to me their is nothing interesting there to persue. Now at my other job I work at a call center to the North of me and their is nothing but women all around me. Out of my team their our only 4 guys and 14 women. All seem to be around my age maybe two being out of the range.
Thats alittle background into me if you guys would like to know more feel free to reply to thread or pm. I have in my arsenal CTTM2, Tuth, Ammo, P83, MX451, A314, IG, IO, IH.
I am looking for a good mix for my age to wear around, and to target specific women. Now I understand this is not a miracle and you have to work and influence your mixes but if you come up with the best for you please do share it. All comments our welcomed.
I have tried one spray of tuth, one spray of IH, and two sprays of CTTM2 that has seem to work good. Ammo with three sprays, one woman I noticed was defensive and the others close to my age were glacing and meeting my eyes a couple of times. I plan on doing the first mix again tonight from call center work and I will be sharing my experiences tonight. Thanks for letting me be apart of this great community.
Ammo and CTM2 would be a decent mix in a 1:1 or 2:1 ratio. With CTTM2 you really don’t need any IH. Beta androstenol, the main ingredient in IH, is also in CTTM2. TUTH I don’t really like using in work environments. I’ve done so before and you REALLY have to buffer it. You’d be better off with Ammo or IG in the work place.
As you’re young I’m guessing you don’t really see either of these jobs as a long term thing, so A314 isn’t really your best bet. Work environments are generally the most useful place to use A314, but they aren’t the only place and it’s more for the respect and authority aspect than anything else. I work in a call center myself so I can attest to it being fairly irrelevant in our line of work. Too bad you don’t have any instant shine or TAA ![]()
To summarize:
Ammo + CTTM2 1:1 or 2:1
IG + CTTM2 (or IO and IH) 3:2
You could also add some Ammo to the latter mix, making it 3:2:1 IG:CTTM2:Ammo.
These are only suggestions, you really have to find out for yourself what works the best. Personally, I have no experience with CTTM2 as it’s never been in stock while I’ve been here, but from what I’ve heard the official replacement is IH + IO in a 1:1 ratio.
Also remember that a ratio can be scaled. So a 2:1 Ammo:CTTM2 mix could be either 2s:1s or 4s:2s and so on.
Thanks redlion for your reply. I wore tonight one spray of Tuth, IO, and two sprays of CTTM2. I didnt notice anything different besides their girl that likes me at work talking me up. I plan on doing two sprays of Ammo and one of IH. Does that sound good to try or three sprays of Ammo? How should i use IG? Thanks for all your suggestions and comments.
Ammo, IG and A314 (maybe include TUTH) are what we call bases. Start by finding out which of those you prefer. This will take a few days, perhaps as much as a few weeks. Read the stickied thread in this forum about sweetspots to help you narrow down which product you want to use daily, and what dosage is best for you.
After that you can add what we call steering molecules, like the nol in CTTM2, IH and IO. Socials mones are easier to apply. You really can’t go wrong with any amount of these, although at a certain point it’s just wasteful or OD-like (spaceland comes to mind). Just remember that you naturally produce pheromones, so any amount past that will probably be enough to produce effects. You don’t need to go buckwild with three or four social products because one or two will probably be enough, especially between CTTM2, IH and IO because they’re all made of the same two molecules: alpha- and beta- androstenol, albeit in different amounts.
Just got home. I wore three sprays of Ammo and one spray of IH. I didnt know much difference besides close to the end of work I had two girls fighting over me. lol. I plan i going down to two sprays of ammo but should i do one spray of tuth or should i one spray IJ or IG? I want to give a little sexuality to it.
I would suggest you stick to the IG in a work environment, although you might get away with one spray of TUTH alongside Ammo/IH as it will be more sexual but still pretty well balanced.
IJ contains five times the none of TUTH or Ammo - this would totally out of proportion with the other moderating pheros and highly likely to trigger a negative reaction - keep that for when you hit a club, party or somewhere else thy can let their inhibitions right down and you can be fully congruent with its very forward signature! ![]()
Yesterday when at work I kinda put myself in the corner because of all the drama that seems to happen when i am in the middle of the classroom. So they noticed my discontent and were throwing my name around the room every once in awhile. I wore two sprays of ammo, one spray of IH, and one application of Tuth. I have been spraying my chest, i would do ammo in middle of chest, then IH at my throat then tuth at the bottom of my chin. I was wondering if -none applications is better on the chest like ammo and tuth and nol products on the arms and hands? I took off today so I could relax and get ready for finals next week. I value your comments.
Is this under clothing, or can it diffuse via (say) an open-necked shirt?
Personally, I’d apply most of those around my neck/throat for maximum diffusion. TUTH itself can be usefully applied under light clothing - esp in younger guys in clubs/more raunchy environments who still need to tame it a little.
Personally, I tend to work with the none applications mostly on my neck/throat - near the centre if you will. Partly for good diffusion and to maximise any self effects. Socials I tend to put mostly on my wrists/forearms and back of neck - depending on clothing.
My reason - think of how a sexual interaction develops. What parts of the body are closest to the subject at the various stages and what happens as you get closer - when someone is close/comfortable enough to be cuddling, then snogging you, that is the time you want maximum impact from the none but when meeting/building comfort, the socials need to be most present. ![]()
And quite a few of us here can attest to a partner paying particular attention to our none app points during and after sex and yes, I was seeing plenty of that again last night/this morning.
Thank you mobocaster for breaking that down for me about application points. Today I plan to wear two sprays of ammo at chest and one application of IS to throat. See what reactions i get at work. I will post back when i get home tonight.
I came home last night from work and I can definitely say i believe it works. Now sexual hits i dont think so from ammo+IS but I seem to be the guy in the middle of the class. I am always being talked about or the women are always motioning to me. I even had a guy in my team tell me that i have something with women and he started bowing down to me. Lol. Now i wash the areas i apply twice over to make sure it is pheromone free. Do you have any advice about washing application areas our there times when you should not wear pheromones like wear for two days then had to stop for a day so you dont OD? I dont know what i will be applying today but i will think about it going over the forums one more time and let you know. Thanks.
Don’t ever downplay the attractive benefits of social ‘hits’ when the ladies are around. People are inherently social creatures, and women in particular gravitate to the men that are higher in the social hierarchy of a group (the alpha male).
I just got home from work. I can say their wasn’t much action today besides being able to one on one talk with the girl that I am attracted too. She found me very interesting and wanted to conversate more but we had to go back from break. Tomorrow were having a pot luck at work and its going to be a very social event so i am thinking about applying two sprays of ammo with one spray of instant openness. Or should i do say two sprays of IG, one of IS, and one of IO. Thank you sigma for your insight, I have been reading alot about women psychology because it intrigues me how the mind of a social creature works and behaves. Us being social creatures.
I think i am going to go ahead because of the pot luck and do two sprays of Ig, one of IS, and one of IO.
Seemed tonight to be kinda on the high but I believe it would lead to be more flurting then anything more. I plan on using three sprays of ammo and thats it and see what happens. I will be on the production floor of my job so it will be likely it will not be as productive female interaction wise.
Sorry I haven’t been updating the thread lately. I have been having pains in my lower legs and have been on medical leave from work for the past couple of days. I am returning to work tonight so I plan on spraying three sprays of Ammo and one spray of IS. I will let you know what happens. Also I have been reviewing the forum, the thread that talks about the differents between Ammo vs. Tuth. I have noticed I wanted to ask what would be the effects with being at my age. If I were to use tuth again it seems I get good effects from one spray but what should I add to it to give the effects that I am hot and ready or is it better with my age to portray I am the alpha male with Ammo knowing full well if I were to apply Tuth I would get much older ladies attracted then the ones around my age.
Take a look at my journal. I’ve documented a lot of different experiences I’ve had during my senior year.
Right now I’m trying Tac and Tuth 8)
Thank you okyoureabeast.I have looked over your journal and got some ideas from it. Does anybody else have experience being around 24yrs old with pheros and what particular combos work best?
Dragon, I have an idea.
Most women in college are on the pill. It would probably be more effective to use Instant Gentleman or a rone product. I’m getting a ton of hits lately from women. One girl was nuzzling her nose into the application point for instant gentleman.
TUTH would go pretty well with your more social mixes or try swapping one spray of Ammo for a spray of TUTH - This increases the none, nol, rone proportion to 2:1:1 - Which is more overt but still reasonably moderated.
Just avoid using TUTH on its own around women your age unless you are in the raunchiest situations or rapidly heading for a one-on-one with someone.
Thank you mobocaster. I plan on meeting up with my ex-girlfriend with benefits. She is 21 so I dont know if i should use a spray a tuth with say IG or IO. Or should I go ahead and use ammo two sprays. Im not sure? Any ideas?