Admittedly, I’m sort of skeptical about this, but I thought I’d give it a try. I’m an Asian College Student (at the University of Virginia). I’m not unattractive (some find me really attractive), but I feel like I have very low pheromone output. I’m asian-american and I don’t sweat a lot, smooth skin, no facial hair, etc. I thought this would help even the odds, and help me out with the ladies.
I’m very personable, but admittedly some of my tics are very effeminate. I ordered a thing of AMMO and TUTH, and also got a free sample sized container of Instant Openness. I tried AMMO once x2 and didn’t see much result…
I’m also interested in trying these things out as experiments. So periodically, I’m willing to try new things out with your assistance.
On a final note: Y’all should try to alter the Wikipedia page on synthetic human pheromones, it seems to suggest that all these products are bogus, but seeing all the testimony here, I’m willing to alter it.
Pheromones aren’t a magic potion. Not having results with Ammo could be attributed to a variety of reasons…you may not have been social enough/congruent with the mones, the results may have been very subtle, Ammo may not work well with your natural body chemistry, etc. Try experimenting with different dosages and mixtures until you find what works best specifically for you. I would suggest throwing some IO into the mix and seeing what happens. There’s also tons of advice on the forums about ways to improve your dating/social/professional life in other ways.
Good luck!
P.S. Everyone here is too confident and alpha from using A314 and couldn’t care less about what Wikipedia says haha (but thanks for the heads up).
BoogieMan has given you great advice, you do need to experiment with different dosages as well as different environments, and also hone your observation skills as hits can be subtle and difficult to recognize, especially when you’re first starting out. Also, in certain places such as in class or at work, others may be affected but they may not show it because the setting may be inappropriate.
You might also want to consider A314 or Instant Gentleman, which will give you more of an alpha manly vibe.
A lot of people come here very skeptical but end up believers.
There are quite a few asian guys here - I will do a little research and try to send you some more user names - but there seems to be certain similarities along ethnic lines. One name you can start with is Gegogi. Although he is in his early 50s a lot of his experiences were in a college setting. The key in this case is that you can kinda of infer from some of the mixes and products he uses.
The big thing to remember is that the products help you in your social interactions. And given all the variables in social interactions and not knowing the details about your one time use of Ammo I really cannot tell you anything.
For example - if you used it in class you might get a few looks from girls but they are not suddenly going to be giving you their phone numbers. Nor is a girl in a club suddenly gloing to walk up to you and ask you to go home with her. All the pheros do is send out a subtle message saying (ie in the case of Ammo) “I am intersted”. Now if you met or talked with any of the fore-mentioned young ladies and they indeed find you interesting, the Ammo heightens that message and who knows … But if you act like a jerk (not saying you do by any means) or just sit there waiting for people to come to you, then your words and actions will trump the subtle message of the pheros. The other thing is that often women want to size you up for a while beforehand.
Anyways - let us know what you are doing with the mones and we will be happy to give you helpful hints and suggestions.
I’m also Asian American, and in my senior year of college. I also haven’t noticed much in my experiments with ammo. Ammo alone doesn’t seem to be able to do it for me, so I usually mix it with some IO or any other socials in the line. When you mix them, for me, it seems to have a very good effect on the people around you.
Even though I haven’t noticed much with ammo, I do find that 1 spray works just fine for me. I think it’s the signals you send out, so if you’re on 3 sprays you might seem like you’re real jacked up on steroids or something but 1 spray might just be subtle enough to convey the right message with your personality type. So be wary of OD.
Of all the products I have, I found 1 spray of ammo is generally enough. 2 sprays of any social seems to be a good combination for me as well (when mixed with ammo), save IS because I haven’t had enough time to test it.
good luck testing.
I haven’t tested TuTH. IMO this product is only for those who have no problem escalating with women until they might hit LMR, in which case it would help. TuTH is a special case for me, but personally I would not have recommended it to be in your first purchase.
Also, my blood type is O since these are all factors that make a difference.
I’ve just stumbled onto this, but Instant Jerk reallly realllly works for guys that have a lower -none output. The self effects I’ve gotten were pretty good as well. Be careful with the dosage though, 1-2 sprays may be enough.
I am of descent from that region but my body composition produces more -none than usual. However it really really shines when you’re using it around non-asians. As you’re in Virginia, I doubt there are many in that neck of the woods.
This will give you a bad boy edge that IME college girls love. Just don’t be an outright ass and you’ll be ok.
Couple this with some A314, and I think you will be very very successful. Just remember though that your inner game and your body language has to be in line, or the subconscious mind will just write it off as incongruent.
Huh, thank you. I’ll look into that. I’m on my second day of sweetspotting with Ammo, doesn’t seem to have any notable effects. I get about the same number of glances as I would normally, so nothing special there.
Looks like you received some right on solid advice from the fellas. There you have it. Buy everything in the store, experiment like crazy and tell us all about it.
Asians produce less Androstenone than other races. I don’t know why but for some reason we just do. But physical activity, and diet can help change those natural pre-dispositions. Asians typically are “softer” than most races. I know that this isn’t counted for all, but the majority are. I’ve read that Androstenone directly correlates with testosterone production and that because of our physical makeup, we naturally have less.
However, if you work out, keep active, eat the right foods, then you should be pretty even with everyone else. The only key is getting rid of that stigma
I think diet is a major reason that Asians tend to have lower Androstenone output. A diet that is higher in meat-- particularly red meat-- results in higher testosterone levels, which presumably results in higher Androstenone output. However, many Asians eat less meat, less red meat, or no meat at all.
Also, some Asians eat large amounts of soy, which contains phytoestrogens that could cause hormone levels to be different.
