I can't notice a difference...

Hello,

I am a 28 year old Asian male living in CA. I’ve always been curious of pheromones and I wanted to give it a try after doing research online. I would say I am relatively comfortable under my skin and have a lot of guy friends. However, I do get kinda shy around certain girls. I recently went through a break up from a long term relationship and I am looking at pheromones to give me that extra edge to improve my game… I am looking to attract mostly asian and caucasion ladies…

So far I have ordered ammo, instant shine, instant gentlemen and received instant honesty as a gift :slight_smile:. After testing out each product by itself, I have yet to notice any changes in behavior in people around me (new/old). I do not feel any self effects nor do I see any noticeable “hits”!! Its only been about 3 weeks but I am getting a bit discouraged…

I am going to continue to test the products but i really want to try A314 after reading all the reviews (it’s so expensive!). Also, i think the product will fit my character. :cool:

Any feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated…

Hi and welcome!

Did you also try varying the doses, as well as the environments you were wearing them in?

If they really aren’t working for you, for whatever reason, you can get a refund, or exchange if you want to.

Instant Openness is one I would have definitely recommended for you, to help with the shyness.

Its a subtle thing, really. Did you read the section called How do I know if I am getting hits !! It may well have been working, but you may not have recognized it.

Hi coke, like Sillykitty has asked, did you vary the doses? Experiment, try overdosing and see what happens.. Some times it can take weeks to notice a difference (when I say difference I mean subtle difference) with those around you. Also - what about you the person, are you congruent with what you are trying to achieve? What is your communication like? In my opinion it is confident people that get the most benefit from wearing pheromones. If someone was shy and sat in a corner hiding from people, then it would be uncommon for them to experience good results. But I do not know if this is your issue, can you tell us more about you?

HI there,

Welcome

If you are kinbda, shy, you should try Shine and IO. Shine can counter your shyness and boost your confidence.
IO will get the girls talking to you. It gives you an edge to approach girls.

AMMO will add the attraction into the play.

I hope you know pheromones will only help and largely still depends on your effort. In addtion to that, you need to do some experiments to find your sweet spot. Start with one spray for a few days and increase accordingly to know the right number of spray for you.

Cheers

thanks for all the advice guys!! I have been varying the doses from 1-3 sprays for each. I might bump it up to 4 or 5 sprays.

I think instant openness is definitely going to be in my next batch.

Is it more difficult to see changes if you are using it mostly around your friends? This may be the root of my problem… Im going out this weekend so i am thinking of drenching myself in ammo!! I’ll keep you guys posted.

By the way, how long does it take to receive the GC?

Im gonna take your advice and try to overdose… i would say im a pretty confident guy. Like i said i have many friends who trust me and look up to me. I’ve never really had problems in the girls dept because i’ve always had long term girlfriends. However, Im not the type to walk up to any girl that I dont know and try to get her phone number. I guess I was hopin pheromones will bring the girls to me??

hi coke. if you don’t mind me asking, what part of cali are you from? you might know that norcal asians are different than socal asians, etc, so at least for me, your answer will help me help you.

the gc is instant once tisha (the hostess) gets around to sending them out. she usually does this at night and they go to your email. it’s a code you type in at checkout.

try starting a journal (paper or in the journal section here) and record a series of days where you don’t use any pheros. this might work better on people who haven’t been around your pheros for the past three weeks. then gradually start to layer on the pheros and keep recording your days. if you don’t record your days and just base your hit count off your perception of the day-to-day, you probably won’t notice much. if you record your days, it’s a bit easier to see your results. i’m in a weight training program right now and i take pictures of myself each day. the scale doesn’t move too much and i’m not breaking out of my shirts but if i put today’s picture next to my first day’s picture, i can definitely see an improvement. this is how a journal can help.

pheros can’t necessarily bring the girls to you, but a few products can help you go to them. io is a good rec, once you get your right dosage of ammo that should help you out too. try to get a hang of ig too before you switch to a314. a314 is stronger not in the sense of dosing but the vibe it gives.

Hello Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

With some people it takes more work and practice to see results.

Keep careful notes at first. How much you used. Where you applied them on the body. Environment you used them in. If you used anything else with them.

This way if your having trouble we have a better chance of helping you figure out what is going on.

You mention your targeting Asian women and your in Cally so I am assuming these Asian women have been brought up in diverse environments. They probably still wont care for a very high anone signature but can handle a bit more the the Asian born and bred women.

Not sure where you applied your products but most times diffusion is a factor when your having trouble seeing results. Simply changing your application points can make a difference.

People who know us well will not respond as quickly or dramaticaly as a stranger would. This is because they are pre conditioned to act a certain way around us. After repeated exposure they will begin to react.

We would be happy to work with you to get your mones working for you and you can always post in the mens section or PM me. If you need more guidance give Steve a call at the hotline and he will help you with them as well. Just be sure to have the info I mentioned above so we have something to work with.

Your GC is on its way

Tisha
Hostess/Guide

I do agree with you that Socal Asians are much different from Norcal. I have a tendency to get along with Norcal people slightly better than Socal although I am from LA. Any advice on what product i should use for socal girls? I like caucasian girls too by the way, my last ex was white.

I will take your advice and keep good notes…

Thanks Tisha and everyone,

I am very impressed by the support I am receiving from this forum. You guys are doing a kick ass job!

I usually use them just like a cologne (wrist and neck). Are there other application points that are more effective?

Since Ammo is part none, should I not use it around asian girls? Which product would you recommend to attract them in a social setting?

Do you think trying out A314 may be a bit too much for me in the beginning?

While you do have pulse points on the wrists I find with most members who contact me with problems that wrists are part of the problem. They are just not a natural mone producing area and diffusion is not at its best there.

Try chest, neck, back of neck and Hair for the socials. Another trick is to spray something like AMMO on your neck and while its still wet use your wrist to spread it up the jaw line. For some reason this really works well for the guys.

Depends… If your shy and wont approach its to much for you. It can cause distancing because of its strong alpha leader vibe. Women will wait for you to lead but you will get more IOI.

AMMO is buffered with two other mones to avoid the aggressiveness of anone. You should be fine with this one. Be more careful with TUTH and IJ… These are high in anone and unbuffered.

I would go with light AMMO Ishine and IH when layering. Of course you need to find your dosage first. There is a link to that in my signature below as well as application tips and what mones can do and what they cant. These should all help you as well.

Tisha

socal asians tend to be more integrated into the caucasian vibe. up north you have clumps and you could also make two different daily mixes, one for hanging out with asians and one for hanging out with other people. down south there’s a good mix; you can find asians from santa monica to pomona and generally they respond the same.

luckily there is a good middle ground, and it goes by the name of a314. in my experiences it works well on asians as well as white girls. since you’ve been spying it and have a taste for both asians and caucasians, it might benefit you to try it out. do some research on it and check out this thread here for references Analysis on each pheromone and its effect on different races , then decide if you want to get it. it is a bit expensive, yes, so you want to make sure you can make the best use of it. in addition to success with women you can also use a314 for respect at work or in your social circle.

ammo would probably go better with white girls than asians, true, but again with the differences in asians, perhaps some are more attuned to -none than others. go light with it on asians. with caucasian women, tune your dose to their age range.

wrist and neck are good. hair is good for socials (never for -none). back of neck is good for ifm or if you want your scent to be just a little more subtle. if you’re going shirtless the chest is good.