Hey guys,
I’ve made up a couple of mix’s just now and I was wondering how long they should just sit there and “brew” before i start to use them…? A day? a week? Or are they good to go right now?
When I’m compositing a mix I’ve found that for me they work best if I let them sit for at least 3-4 days (not that I’m able to wait that long usually!) 
Thanks Snoopyace,
They are the ICM mix’s that you posted a while back so thanks for the info too!
Hope I got them right… they were not the cheapest to make
I read on these forums that the order in which you combine them, the temperature (i think) and the ammount of time you let them ‘brew’ all have an effect. Additionally they said to keep it in the dark /out of light…
Personally I’d only take that with a pinch of salt, although my knowledge in chemistry is non-existant, i’d be very surprised if any of that had any real big impact on anything.
I would possibly be inclined to believe the ammount of time you allow them to mix would play a part, but not so much.. If i mix salt, sugar and xyz into water they’ll all be mixed in pretty fast, as they do and they’ll stay like that reglardless of how long I leave it.
I think part of the theory is that them being chemicals they are going to react /bind together and do lots of various things, but that works in two ways i.e. enhances or ruins the molecules, so unless you have a degree in mocular sciences and equipment to analyse the results it’s a factor not really necessairy, unless anyone would care to enlighten me?
I can see how things might get changed around when adding them at different times etc. like adding one thing to another and leaving it for a day or so. There maybe a reaction that takes away available electrons that would normally react with another component that could have been added at the same time. If it’s all just put in the mixing pot at the same time it would most likely just get equalized out over time and you get what you get. Its not a violent reaction (not visible, endothermic or exothermic… mind you, we are talking about very small amounts here) so don’t think adding them all within 5 minutes of each other is going to make a lot of difference in the end mix… hence my question of “how long”
I have made up some cologne not too long ago and did not mesh well at first. I let it sit 3-4 weeks and something happened and it does not smell bad now and I can go out with that scent on.
So maybe somthing like that might go on with the Phero’s, not sure. I wait a week or two after I make a mix.
True!
I’ll wait a week or two and then try it out. I have a ton of other stuff I can play with at the moment so no hardship to wait.
Thanks all for the tips and advice
I know what you mean by them not being the cheapest to make but they really are worth it. As much as I LOVE MX301 and MX302 I’ve gotten so much more from making them myself. Steve definitely created something special with these. Good luck with them!
If it’s anything like making perfume you should let it sit for at least a week or two if you can just to make sure everything bonds well together. You may also want to “percuss” the bottle with its mixed contents, what I mean by this is striking the bottom of the bottle against your palm around 30 or 40 times (or maybe even more) so the molecules inside the bottle mix in well together. This is an old technique I’ve heard been used for a long time now.
I don’t seem to have much trouble with the alcohol composites I make if I start using them after about 72 hours but the oil based mixes seem to need at least 2 weeks before they are close to ready.
Six days now… First test run tonight
Good luck!
Unless it’s an oil based mix, I don’t see what difference it would make to let it sit after you shook or stirred it thoroughly. Never had any difference with or without “composting” a mix. Why waste time? Molecules is molecules.
At least for me, when I throw a bunch of pheros into a bottle and then wear it immediately, the effect doesn’t seem to last as long as when I let them sit a few days. In other words, if I don’t let it sit, the effects seem to wear off within an hour and a half. If I let it sit a few days I get at least 3.5 hours from it.
With the oil based mix it really seemed to ‘mature’ after about 2 weeks. Everything has mixed together and everyone has gotten to know each other and is all friendly and cozy in the bottle. 
Honestly, I think this effect is more attributable to the placebo effect than anything else. A good shake or a mix should do it in an hour or less, either way. Color me skeptical.
Your skeptical.
Just commenting on my own experiences. I’ve tried it without knowing anything I’ve since read about how it is ‘supposed’ to work and I’ve noticed it lasts longer for me when its sat a few days. If nothing else, it doesn’t hurt anything to let it sit and brew.
And what color is that? lol
I guess I’m approaching it from the point of view of, I don’t understand the “why” and “how” it would make a difference, so it seems kind of far fetched to me.
If we have an experiment in which we add enough blue dye to an ounce of water so that the resulting spray has 5 mcg of dye per spray, how long do you suppose it would take to get to that point wihout even being shaken? I’m betting it wouldn’t be even 30 minutes, simply from diffusion within the water.
Shane it, and voila - evenly mixed in 30 seconds or less.
Add some red dye and will it take days to turn purple?
I don’t see how pheromone molecules are any different in this regard. If they are, I’d love to know about it.
Olive Green? 
I wasn’t all that concerned with the ‘whys’ of it, just that I know from trying it both ways on different occasions that it seems to work better for me if I let it sit. Others may have different experiences. I’m sure Steve or someone can chime in with a more official answer.
Not that it really matters, whatever works for you is the best way to do it.
I guess. I’d just like to understand the how and why.
After my first test… I’m pretty sure I OD’d. Not a good result. I’m going to have to recalculate how much I should be wearing and how much each spray is delivering (I only used three spays). I wouldnt have thought it was to much… but hey… no good results from my first home brew “yet”
Catlord,
I can explain why things “might” change if the mix is left for a while. The mixing of dye’s is not a good example as that is just light reflecting pigments mixing together they don’t have to chemically bind together to change color.
I don’t have time now. But, I’ll try my best to explain over the weekend some time.