Do Androstenone and A1 cancel each other?

Both Androstenone and A1 are my favourite mones. No matter wheather NPA, Edge, ONS or chemset None, None-products works fine for me. Also the chemset A1 from LS works great. But if I mix both together, None as well as A1 loss on effectiviness. Do None and A1 cancel each other, do I need more of each or even less of both? Any experiences?

Thank you :slight_smile:

You need to work out what ratio works best for you.

They don’t cancel each other out, more complement each other - On its own, none can easily come-on too strong or too agressive, whilst A1 can be nice/best-friendy/too comfortable, so the A1 does moderate none very effectively whilst still bringing some of its own character into play - notably the “crush” effect.

Its all a matter of finding the best balance. :slight_smile:

Well i have notice the same thing in all the mix were i mix A1 and none. From my findings it does tone down the none quite a bit. but does add that conforting fallout crus effect if i could say sorta of a trade off

Well, I’d take the crush effect then. You can always turn things around with some Tuth from a to go, sprayed on some other spot away from the A1.

I haven’t used A1 that much but even when I do I put it at some other place than the none. The none usually goes to the front of my neck and the A1, when I apply it, to the back.

I got a chemset a couple of months ago and did mix nol, rone, none and A1 together in what I believed to be good ratios with some cologne. Haven’t used it yet, so I have no idea whether it’s good or bad.
I had some stupid vision at some point that this would be great for travel, only needing to bring that one bottle with me. Chances are however that it’s useless. Have to try it sometime to find out.

Thank you for your advices :slight_smile:

I have made a mix of 4 mcg None + 20 mcg A1.

When using only 20 mcg A1, women get good mood and it creates a comfortable vibe. With 4 mcg None, women become flirty and it creates a sexual vibe. Only when mixing it together, the effects of both fades away.

I have not used this mix very often, so perhaps the disappointments were coincidents…?

4 mcg None + 20 mcg A1 - should it be a good ration or can it still improved?

How old are you - I generally use between 25-37.5mcg A1 to 5-12.5mcg of none (and sometimes more!) but I’m in my late 40s

I am 36. When I use more than 5 mcg None, people avoid me and men become agressive toward me, especially when using none alone.

Ok - 4mcg sounds fine for a younger guy but by mid 30s, you may find it good to go a little higher, to offset/balance the moderating effects of the A1. It is very effective at smoothing the rough edges.

Could you maybe carry a togo of (say) 2.5mcg none and increase it one spray at a time?

When using None alone I can not use more than 4 or 5 mcg without ODing, but when I use Edge (1/4 pack), NPA (0.04 ml) or A7 (0.02ml), I can wear much more None. 1/4 pack Egde contains about 10 mcg None, 0.04 ml NPA covered with P6 (Rone-fragrance) contains 9.6 mcg and 0.02 ml A7 about 12 mcg.

Just where I write this I remember that I have used A1 with A7 too. Usually one dab of A7 (=12 mcg None) works best for me. As I have add 0.02ml A1 (=20 mcg) to it, the mix loses on effectiviness, even I have applied 2 dabs of A7. But these observations was in a club. The 20mcg A1 + 4 mcg None-mix was for the day.

Perhaps I should test more because I have only not found the right A1:None-relation :slight_smile:

Some say P75 is an effective replacement for none. Has anyone tried it with A1 and gotten good results (crush effect AND sexual feelings)

Not yet - I intend to test that one out sometime soon. I’ve not done much with A1 for a good while now other than finish-up my existing mixes. Been pursuing other avenues instead and I will say that MX297/390 and P75 appears to be a good one - At least around people and situations that are generally less responsive to none.

I took this one out today - 37.5mcg A1 alongside 7.5mcg P75.

I will be testing it further as repeated exposure is always relevant to A1 but my initial impression is that I don’t see a lot in this mix. It may need some other moderation - TAC, IO or maybe IS spring to mind.

I got a few mild/moderate hits but not even what I would expect from A1 alone and certainly nothing like the consistent strong hits I’ve been getting recently with a similar dose of P75 and 2 sprays MX297/390.

Pheromones dont cancel each other out they just steer each molecule in a certain direction.

Tisha

A1 solo has never done much for me. Years ago I often mixed chemset A1 with NPA and it appeared to take a little of the edge off but nothing earth shaking. A1 was sort of a one trick pony for me: when my woman was bleeding and suffering from hormonal upheaval it always helped calm and uplift her. Outside of her period I’d never know I was wearing it. Even in high A1 doses I have not experienced mood shifts or depression some men claim to suffer.

Try A1 and anol with a small amount of TAF and TAA. Its magic :wink:

Tisha

I used A1, anol, TAA and TAF together a bunch of times a couple years back (plus a bunch of other combinations). Probably never nailed the ratios but had some fun playing with it. I still occasionally use A1, anol and TAA but TAF was a bit underwhelming and I didn’t bother to rebuy after the 30ml ran out.

IMO TAF is a sharpener of sorts. It doesnt really steer the mix to another level it just sharpens the vibes the others putatives are sending. Some people can pull that off with just there personality and I have a feeling your one of those people LOL

Tisha

Magic as in IFM ?!?! :wink:

what is a good mix that has been getting you results?
Thanks Level

Try looking at the A1 Mix Repository thread - There are many excellent combos to try. :slight_smile: