Do pheromone products really work, or is it just the wearer? A skeptic asks

the stuff works!!!

On my wedding night, in the hotel room, I put on 2 sprays of TUTH, (had not played with it in a long while, and not more than once or twice with my GF now Wife)
We got into an argument, over piddly stuff, then after about an hour she attacked me, and “the best, most magical experience of our lives occurred” I do not think she has ever had her bell rung better.

Nope it is snake oil, send all of the phero’s to me please.

I received IH, IO and TUTH today. I used IH and IO before a job interview that I was determined to sabotage and refreshed them before seeing my passive aggressive and critical gf who has a thing for one of her coworkers. Well, I ended up getting the job because they created a day shift with hours I would work and held the position for me to start next week. This, after insisting that all hires must start this week and only evening shifts were available.

My gf always gives me hell when she’s had a crap day at work and likes to give me the angry silent treatment for no reason (usually a sign of an affair), but even after a really bad day at work - and thinking that I’m cheating on HER - she was very chatty and open about her day and even mentioned the name of the unmentionable one. She usually avoids mentioning anything about him because she says I make a big deal out of nothing. Anyway, she’s been all about me all evening. While she was in the shower, I spritzed her pillow with IH to see where pillow talk goes. I’m saving TUTH for the weekend.

The usually aloof waitress at our favorite Mexican restaurant was quite attentive, friendly and a bit flirty and the gf picked up on that then started watching me like a hawk. Niiiiiiiiiiice!

In a word, yes. This stuff works because all that happened since I put it on was too good, strong and consistent to coinkydink!

Mones work but there not needed. Confidence and game is 90%. Mones just get your foot in the door.

Some of us produce ample none levels and don’t even need them at all. I’m in my 40’s and have blood type o. I produce a lot of none.

I find working out is much better for your overall game, confidence etc but that is my experience after 15 years of using mones.

Mones can replace the signature you’ve lost over time.. But if you’ve neglected your body with time, your skills, your game, your career etc your not going to be very congruent getting anywhere. Better to work on all those factors , get your ducks in a row, and then add mones.

About 10 years ago I was diagnosed with bipolar. I’ve got that under control now. I also have gotten in better shape, enhanced my skills in business, and found out sleep apnea was causing a lot of my problems too. I have that under control now.

A lack of QUALITY sleep was killing my test levels. Now they sky high and I know why.

I’m more concerned with mone OD these days than anything else. I’ll have to reevaluate my products and how much I use going forward as my health continues to improve.

I notice best results with mones on days when I’m naturally feeling awake and alert, confident about my body image, and very relaxed and playful. In essence its hard to pinpoint if its the mones or if its me that’s making all this work. But I notice that the products do indeed create the vibe when I am in these states. When I am tired, stressed, feeling out of shape, lack confidence etc mones do nothing for me.

So in essence they work but you need a training manual and to be in peak health.

Mones are awesome! They effect your mood and the mood of people around you. Is it going to make girls run up to you and start grinding on you? no but deep down they may be thinking it. You still have t interact and dsouza is right confidence is king. If you’re wearing something like A314 you feel your confidence soar.

I like IO since it helps with communication especially with shy girls they tend to open up more. I’ve been using these products for years and have had great success. I will say tho as far as I know there have been no real scientific tests done that show they directly influence another person, the only one proven to do so is A1 which I’ll also use. I would stick with IS, Ammo, TUTH and A314 the price for IO and IH are just way to high atm.

I’ve had my doubts too but after reading the research and science behind these products, I’ll be making my first order sometime this week.

I would challenge anyone who thinks these are snake oil, to put on a hefty dose of TUTH (3-4 sprays) and go somewhere public, Preferably a store with cameras such as Walmart, in a neighboring town. first walk a path through the store with no pheromones, then go to your vehicle change shirts, put on the sprays and walk through again.
Walk roughly the same route around the store, watch for different reactions, ask for help, smile at a pretty lady walking with her Motorcycle riding Biker, MMA wrestling, weight lifting, husband.
Watch the highschool/college guys fluff turkey and flex their muscles at you, watch women shield their kids from you.

I said with camera’s because you could get attacked.

Alternate is wearing a hearty dose of IO or IH (or even several sprays of both) and saying “hi, how’s your day?” to the door greeter, person pushing the broom, or stocking the shelves.

Okay, well I challange YOU to do just that, and have someone film you; post it to youtube so we can all see it working

oh I did do it- (that’s why I suggested it)

Figure i’d chime in on this thread…

If you are still skeptical (I dont blame you I was) jusy buy a bottle of Instant Shine for 40$(15$ if you use your free giftcard), and spray yourself 4x. If you dont feel different guess what? 365 day money back gauruntee. I bet you wont return it though. Not after you see what it does. Best part is that’s just a social mone. Now imagine what the sexual ones or the professional (A314) ones can do for you.

What do you have to lose? Besides your skepticism, nothing!

ive been using them for two years now and nothing has happened to me really.. infact its more of the opposite.. girls dont even talk to me in bars much… maybe i wore too much?? i dont know.. i still buy them cos i like the smell, but i just dont see any results

I can second that. Or, if you’re lucky enough to be in a relationship that involves regular sex, establish a baseline without TUTH and then add a spray or two right before you’re about to go at it next time. That’s where I’ve seen my most convincing results.

Self-effects have also done a lot to remove my skepticism. They’re also easier to chalk up to a placebo effect, but I know that A314 makes me feel confident and that IS brightens my mood. If I’m getting those results I’m not going to worry too much about why, haha.

That’s pretty much how I feel. I don’t worry much because with each drop I do in fact act more confident. I’ll gladly pay money for confidence in a bottle whether it’s pheromones or placebo.

Except when it comes to Instant Shine. Instant Shine is basically the first product I used and the first product to make me believe in pheromones. It’s such a fitting name… Instant Shine… because when you spray it on you feel your entire day brighten. I don’t think the placebo effect could make such a dramatic and instant impact on my mood. It actually wakes me up in the morning… and I usually drink 300MG of caffeine just in order to function in the AM! In fact I still do, haha, but I don’t feel the need to when I put on IS, I just do out of habit. I just love caffeine so so much…

I second your opinion on the Shine. Ever since spray 1 with it, my life has been changed for the better. It completely removes my social anxiety, helps me to not dwell on negatives, and seems to simply “brighten my day”. It’s the only product that I use on a near daily basis, and it always gets a spot in any mix I create, too. All in all, it’s worth it’s weight in gold in my book, and is one I recommend to anyone asking where to start.

Well. It has been a week and I’m a believer.

The mones don’t make people flock to me in masses and the most satisfying attention from the opposite sex all week was when he couldn’t have smelled me (we’re in different cars. I was riding in the passenger seat smiling and joking with my brother and glanced outside the window at a young man when we passed by his car only to have him catch up with us looking at me and smiling) which makes me relieved and glad. It seems like that the mones don’t give you the royal flush but you’re handed some good cards that increase your probability of winning.

The changes in others for me were mostly subtle (genuine looking smile here and more words here and there) until I had to handle a leaky bottle of mx397 today and had a male coworker get extremely fidgety during the whole afternoon (if you ever stumble across this, “bird”, I owe you an apology. I’m sure you’re a nice fellow when you’re not mumbling “stupid” whenever you eyed my assets. My intention toward you is nothing but platonic and friendly. I used the 397 for ME because I just love how detached, bold and above all the frustrations 397 makes me feel. ). How comfortable in my own skin that some of the mones make me feel that repurchase is worth it for me.

So far I’m 100% sure that EOW Essence of Woman (copulins sp?) is not snake oil.

I am becoming a lot more open about the idea of mones being the real deal. Instant Shine and Instant Sexiness, all the products I have tried from AD, really do seem to work! But I can’t say I’m completely convinced yet, still think it might be power of suggestion, placebo. Having a lot of fun trying to find out tho! :smiley:

Having recently read Mystery Method by infamous PUA Mystery, I personally take away this explanation of the role of pheromones in pickup, attraction, seduction, blah blah blah.

In social settings males project a certain a persona to females. To be desirable to these females we must project a persona of confidence, high value, etc. Most of this is created through your appearance, your attitude, what you say and do, etc.

But there is a certain level of science that goes beyond this as well to give authenticity to your persona. If you are trying to project a confident fun guy to females, but they just don’t get that “vibe” from you, they conclude that it is all an act from a lower level male trying to trick them into attraction. Pheromones is what help to seal the deal on that vibe. They will see the persona you project, and sense it as well.

That is why they say attraction is 90% us, 10% mones. We must work to make the persona while pheromones are the cherry on the cake.

Yes it Does: Definitely

It just works.

Does this stuff work? Not really

Does this stuff REALLY work? HELLZ YEAH!! :smiley:

Yes they work…The first time i used IO at work I was replacing the tags on the shelves. Some random old woman comes within range and just says OUT OF NO WHERE "my son used to work here and the cat food food used to be so messy…"blah…blah…blah… I swear she wouldnt shut up until i just walked away. IO i is supposed to make people more comfortable to talk(regardless of what they are really talking about(‘quantity’ i think someone put it) ). I have no doubt in my mind, that same night i completely avoided a customer who i know just talks the ear off about bullcrap every visit for fear that this time she REALLY wouldnt shut up lol.