Dude can you tell us what virus it is and elaborate more on it? I got products from both companies and I’m a bit leery now…
you need help.
Whoa, cool your balls, hankypanky2, bud.
I don’t think people don’t like what you’re offering. Anyway, that’s not how successful marketing works, from the words you’re using there.
Just my piece of basil leaf.
If it is snake oil it is deffinately from cobras and black mambas…
Now seriously - pheromones and especially androtic’s products work.Sometime if you OD - the work like punch in the face obvious, but the results are not the desired ones so my advice - don’t OD. 
But every OD is a learning experience in itself - So long as you walk away unharmed at least!
And pushing it does help you establish your fullest dose range for different products and how to cope with more extreme signatures in the widest possible range of situations.
And a massive none OD can be great for getting served in crowded/busy bars - Nobody wants to stand within then feet of you, so you get a good length of bar all to yourself! 
Yeah - the good old OD…:pTeaches you many things.Even to check your shirts’ collars for residue androstenone because with the new -none you apply + the residue one it can become really messy without even realising it.I remember some androstenone megadoses from some european market pgheromone whipes.It felt like being exposed to toxic gas rather than pheromones.
Actually the product was good but the doses were high and one couldn’t know how much one applies.Apply very little - somehow weak - apply too much from only 1 whipe - gas attack.Fortunately androtics’ products are tailored and if you megadose- it will be because u bathed with all the contents of the bottle.
But overall OD-in is really useful , one learns alot.
Snake oil for sure… Yeah this has been some great placebo results..
Haha I’m joking. If anyone doubts, try a Togo spray, they offer refunds and your first purchase is next to nothing, plus overnight shipping. How can you go wrong? It’s like they are giving it away for testing. Test and watch the results. If a person doubts, they can take two different sprays and spray one on without knowing which one. Note the results, then come home later and see which one it was they sprayed. Compare results and double check here on the forum. That should be an easy way to test, without risk of placebo.
I’m very happy with my results. Although some seem to backfire on me no matter how much I use. But I figure I’ll eventually try them all one day so it works out.
This is my new hobby. fun!
So if you ask me if it works or if it’s snake oil, I guess I’ll go with what Casanova said…it’s some black mamba oil imported from Africa..
Androstenone absolutely works. I’m 100% convinced of it. Others? I don’t know yet, I’m still experimenting.
try 5 sprays of TUTH solo or 5 drops of NPA or 3-4 drops old alpha 7 and go to work.oh wait this is even better,hit the biker bar
Jeez dude that’s like playing Russian roulette with all chambers loaded!
last week i tried 10 mcg p75 with a small amount of Tuth, my lab group in class was constantly getting aggressive with me over the smallest things. The guy kept trying to out alpha me and the girl kept questioning everything i did in a rude manner.
had the weekend with no mones as a washout period, yesterday was pretty neutral. today 2 drops a314… different ball game, i totally messed up something in our experiment yet they wouldn’t directly blame me. almost no confrontation and other males laughing at jokes that weren’t good in a way you would to your boss.
either i’m crazy or these things have a profound effect when used correctly or incorrectly for that matter (od)
Not everything that makes it easier to push your snake into tight places is snake oil!
Well I just got my first bottle (TUTH) today.
I saw my gf for lunch wearing a spray and nothing remotely came of it.
Later, I met my gf in parking lot of her office after work. I had 2 sprays about 5mins before I saw her. She did get ‘huggy’ on me and she was definitely not dry (… ).
We went somewhere later in crowded public and I had resprayed another 2 shots as it had been hours. This time though, she didn’t respond to it like during lunch.
Before ride to my house at night (her car was here), I resprayed once on neck and a 1/2 spray and rubbed on wrists and ears, and once we arrived she literally demanded to give me a BJ (menstruating).
Now, I’m really wondering how much the pheromones played into this all, because it’s not much different than how it usually is every day. Maybe how she was adamant at night to fool around, but I really don’t know. 
And maybe none of this applies to you if you’re looking to just find chicks and hookup and use Ammo or one of those social things. I was purely interested in the pure andro pheromone for fireworks.
So you got a BJ while she was menstruating and you where wearing 5,5 sprays of TUTH solo? I wouldn’t complain if I were you.
Androstenone pisses my girl off around that time of the month… And honestly, I think 5,5 sprays TUTH is a lot, even when she’s not menstruating. I get the best results with 2-3 sprays max for bedroom purposes. 4 or more is too big of a horn dog vibe. Not good, creates a repulsive / needy atmosphere.
Test again when she’s ovulating and report back.
Actually she came back next morning wanting a poke in whiskers and said she’d been craving me all night. She’s also a Latina and almost 30 if that helps. I need to do some A/B testing tho.
Haha yes! I always make sure to wash off the androstenone before going to sleep. If not she just wakes me up in the middle of the night / early in the morning.
So if you need a good night rest, scrub it off.
Also, eNone is very sticky, so it might build up in your bedsheets… OD risks.
Why does build up even happen? Aren’t pheros supposed to be either diffused or destroyed by skin bacteria in 24 hours? I’ve noticed slight self-effects from A314 and Ammo the day after I apply them if I don’t wash my application point. How is that even possible?
I found that a combo of the socials (except IG) with 2 sprays of Ammo (regular strength) worked very well in breaking down those last barriers with women you already have some rapport with.
I was wearing IS, IH, IO and AMMO last night as I was meeting this girl I’ve been texting for a few days and within 5 minutes of talking in person I managed to get her to make out with me and you could tell she was in the mood for more as well by the way she kept pushing for more, and then retracting because we were in public.
Usually it takes a day or two for me to get the girls to this point without using any mones so I’ll have to give the combo credit for breaking the barriers down that easily. I practically encountered no resistance whatsoever. The socials made her feel comfortable, the slight none in the ammo gave that sexual vibe, and my game did the rest.
Apart from that, people tend to be a lot more friendly as well as far as having mixed only socials. Adding a hint of TUTH or Ammo will make women much more open to flirt with you. Use caution though cause I saw the girl I was with yesterday become very jealous and constantly seeking my attention when I so much as said “hi” to other girls.
We were at Subway and the girl taking my order was slightly flirting with me, and as that was happening the girl I was with kept pushing some assertive kino to get me to focus my attention on her.
Now I have to say that I do have some game, and all this didn’t happen due to the mones alone but I have never gotten such blatant reactions before, so the mones definitely do work and make things a lot easier. But you have to act the part too
The phero does work, but its effects are best being seen as a tool, not a wonder product. If you are already good looking, then the phero enhance the effect. I had another product from another company with phero before (“spray on your bed, and your girl will love you all night long”) and it just repelled her. She actually started to get headaches instead of the loving mood I was hoping for. Had more effect with clean sheets and a good shower.
From my experiences, I mostly notice that the girls behind the counter will start making mistakes if you stick around them for longer than 2-3 minutes. When girls start sitting next to you, they tend to be more “gigglish” and they tend to be less troublesome when trying to ask them a question. In the past, I had to receive a “who is that guy”-face and I felt less happy than I am now. It does work, but you have to be careful not to use too much and think its the “axe effect”. It does work, but I would more describe it as “Hey girls, a healthy good-looking guy is next to you.”
I don’t know if I already commented on this but it does work.. And contrary to popular belief, I’ve single-handedly witnessed the powerful results of it.
I’ve literally watched as girls flocked to me and began conversations. I think the key is ‘sweet spot’.
Everyone’s will probably be different and I imagine it may be changed through the years and differences in diet.
But like I said, I’ve seen it work.
I watched as my own lady began to attack me sexually every chance she got and I literally had to do nothing.
I’ve seen the ladies stare even maybe 10 different ones all in the same grocery store.
And in class, I watched them literally come up to me and form a group where I was like the ‘leader’..
It got so awesome that two of them would be asking me for help at the same moment (kind of like a jinx you owe me a coke) and nearly get upset with each other, also leaving me in a predicament as to whom I will choose to speak to first.
I compare it to groupies trying to get to the star first.
And no I’m not boasting myself. I’m boasting the product.
It took me a lot of trial and error. Lots of ghosting and emotional situations.
To be honest, I literally and wholeheartedly believe there is some sort of combo that can make the ladies do what you want them to.
For example: if you want ladies to chase you down until you give them sex, I believe it can be done with pheros alone. Not that I’m endorsing such behavior but trying to prove a point.
But the key is the sweet spot, and which mones to use in what combinations. This is the tricky part.
I know the vet pheromone users here may have something to say otherwise, but I can’t deny the results I seen with my own two eyes.. It’s absolutely amazing.