Do the Punitives and Molecules really work?

[max4334]

I just bought TAK, TAA, TAL, and P79

I’m wondering if these do have an effect, how small or large it usually is, and what I can expect to experience.

Thanks

[mobocaster]

Yes they work, although their effects are not warranted and may not be as predictable as the consumer line that has a lot of testing and experience behind it.

What you “expect” to experience is what you find - as experimental products, AD relies on the info we provide to assess their particular properties. Best way is to test each one individually before introducing other pheros/mixes.

[max4334]

@mobocaster

Yes they work, although their effects are not warranted and may not be as predictable as the consumer line that has a lot of testing and experience behind it.

What you “expect” to experience is what you find - as experimental products, AD relies on the info we provide to assess their particular properties. Best way is to test each one individually before introducing other pheros/mixes.

What do you mean “not warrented”? It makes it sound as though these things are so up in the air that they aren’t worth it, and if that is the case, why not do controlled tests? If our feedback isn’t getting anywhere, why not do things for real?

[Gingiber_Pardus]

Hey
In my limited experience the P and experimones are far more potent than the consumer line, but from what I read individuals vary in their effects when using them.

I think the point is, it’s like most things.trial and error and mixing and concocting your own mixes depending on what you are hoping to achive

[tisha23]

Products in the advanced section such as putatives are in testing. Putatives are substance’s (molecules) that are suspected to act as pheromones. Your job if you choose to except it is figure out what the character and effect of the putative is and report it.

Just keep in mind that putatives are single molecules and can be way more subtle then a mix. They dont just communicate attraction but many different moods and emotions.

Tisha

[mobocaster]

@max4334

What do you mean “not warrented”? It makes it sound as though these things are so up in the air that they aren’t worth it, and if that is the case, why not do controlled tests? If our feedback isn’t getting anywhere, why not do things for real?

Have you read this?

Experimental Test Mixes (MX):These are mixes of ExperiMones and Putatives that are very simply put, experimental. Some have been submitted by our fellow forum members, some merely look like they could be a good idea, some are mixing mistakes that actually show potential. There are no guarantee they will work, but even so, they are still offered with a guarantee. Whenever you see a post or thread about MX followed by a series of three numbers this is what the member is referring too. By their very nature they are experimental and not proven to be effective or may not even work at all. While they might sound romantic and sure, with so many users reporting on them, you might want to jump on the bandwagon. Again we encourage members to participate and do their own research, but please take heed. The members who are reporting on these mixes are mostly well experienced and understand how certain pheromones interact with each other. Everyone of us all started out using the Consumer (Instant) line products I mentioned above. I can promise you a certain type of result when you use A314 . With MX ??? all I can promise you is that it has pheromones in it. What it does, how it works, why it works is for you to discover and then report back to the rest of us.

Many of the MX series are tried and discovered to not be very good and therefore discontinued and shelved as obsolete. Pretty much anything that you are reading that is not in the store has been discontinued and will not be available anymore. Just a heads up as this seems to be the biggest area of questions from our newest members, who should be focusing on Consumer products to get their feet wet.

ExperiMones: Androtics sells individual KNOWN pheromone molecules under this category. Where as consumer (Instant) line products mentioned above are a mix of ExperiMones and sometimes Putatives, an ExperiMone is a single molecule. While we encourage you to research, these are not guaranteed, have no support services on what to choose or how to use them. As such, they should be left for a later time when you have a little more experience.

ExperiMones also consist of all the TA molecules which just have been named by the company as such to protect our interests.

Putatives: These are all individual molecules that show potential to be a pheromone, but have not proven themselves beyond our own research. While we encourage you to research, these are not guaranteed, have no support services on what to choose or how to use them. As such, they should be left for a later time when you have a little more experience. Putatives are unnamed molecules for testing and are named with a number to protect the companies interests. The company will not provide you with with any identifying information as to what the molecule is. All reports on the forum are the opinions of those posting them, but testing these molecules sure is fun.

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Which lays it out pretty clearly - These products are all experimental and at varying stages of evaluation, some are well tested/understood, others not. It is our feedback that helps drive them forward or results in them being dropped from the roster. You do have to accept that when you start to get into testing - Its a rather different proposition to the consumer line.

[max4334]

thanks!

great help