Rone will buffer P75 quite effectively and in quite high doses (I’ve done up to 15mcg) but it can give an extremely serious/studious, grounded and determined air to any mix. Which may be good in an LTR-oriented mix but not in a lighter fun/social one.
P97 is an interesting thought. I’ve been loving the way it gives a dark/kinky/fascinating air to Androstenone/Androstanone mixes recently, and I’m wondering what some P75 would do in one of these.
The problem is not how to buffer a high dose of P75 is it the lack of knowledge and experience of molecules you’re not familiar with. I would not waste my time on this, dismissing molecules based on price or that you’re not a fan of 5ml to-go’s, how are you going to learn anything, invest in a few molecules with the budget your on, learn and until you have the funds again, repeat the process, then think about mixing. Stop hijacking threads as your repeating the same things over and over again while nobody is getting wiser.
You’re right, I’m totally unfamiliar with P93 and P96, and, since they’ve been gone from the store for ages, I always will be–which is why I’m looking for alternatives. And, while I normally ignore ad hominem remarks, in your case I will deviate from custom. DSouza is the OP. It’s his thread. I always value his comments, and I think the feeling is mutual. The thread was dormant for three weeks. More importantly, a number of actual and potential customers don’t participate in the forum or test products. Of those that do, few report. In the women’s section, it’s a more obvious shortcoming. Your attitude is precisely the kind that discourages free thinking, experimentation and new participants. I’m sorry you feel as you do… I disagree completely. Buffering P75 IS a problem, it’s a question DSouza asked, and one I can’t answer, because I found it a problem as well. I can promise you your climate and weather in UK is nothing like Florida. I promise you your body chemistry is not identical to mine. I’m 15 years older than you. If buffering high P75 isn’t a problem for you, very well. If you have the breakthrough solution, why not offer it to DSouza as he asked a few weeks ago? Steve’s ICM seemed to me like an estimable mix. Yet, despite raving fans, it’s still not commercially practical. Isn’t it painfully obvious the difficulty of marketing mixes to the general public of multiple, scarce pheromones? Who am I helping to offer the “perfect mix” to forum members that 90% can’t or won’t buy? The few dozen of us who regularly participate are a tiny fraction of AD customers. There’s certain molecules haven’t been reported on with any zeal in ages. MX’s that are long, long gone. Only a tiny percent of us here will ever test even 50% of what AD sells. And that’s why some mones never catch on. If we go about playing preparatory school headmaster, that won’t help things. Why not offer solutions rather than problems? Most of this thread has been a chat between myself and OP, my responses offered to questions he put to me directly. You’ve not read them, I’d guess. Rest assured, you’ll not find me quoting or thanking you. Doctrinaire elitism is not for me. Have yourself a nice day.
Well, you and I share a similar problem: less than ideal buffers for P75. P74 is not bad at all, but I find it too beta at times, too likely to attract unwanted attention from men and too likely to end up friendzone-ish if used too long. Tests from a few years ago favored heavy IO and so forth. Best results come from lots of it, but it still isn’t that great. We’re not living in 2011 anymore, and IO (30 mL) is now the most expensive product. There has to be a better alternative. I use P75 pretty much Daily, sometimes in high amounts. TAC and androsterone are the only products you can buy in a 30 mL size at about 10-20 mcg per spray for roughly $40 US. Nearly every other putative isn’t offered in 30 mL anymore. Again, it’s not 2010 or 2011 anymore. I could burn through a 5 mL in one week. All of my TOGO’s in the last 3 months have leaked. It’s not AD’s fault. Bottom line: I continue to look at better buffers, but IShine and P74 are the best for me so far for daily use. I’m ordering TAC this week. If that fails, we’ll try androsterone. What I won’t be doing is living in the past. The future of pheromone tech will depend upon the Golden 13. That’s what we have, so we’d probably ought to make the most of them.
What I meant was, you’re trying to buffer something without knowing the effects of a wide range of other molecules that you’re not familiar with. That’s why I am suggesting taking the time to experiment with other molecules instead of limiting yourself with a few of molecules that obviously aren’t working out for you. If you can’t buffer something move on and test something else and come back to it later. You’re skipping steps hence the frustration that comes along with it. Start over, rinse, repeat. I don’t care that have you neg repped me, I didn’t mean to be disrespectful, you have a nice day too.
Has anyone tried using TAC as a buffer? I feel great with this combo and find it does a great job of taming the P75 aggression.
2.5 mcg P75
20 mcg TAC
I’m going to give it a shot this week. Thinking 7.5 mcg of 75 to TAC, ratio 1:3. Keep in mind, I aim to go as high as 30 mcg 75 or more. If (big if) it works, I might have to go to 60 mcg with 30 of 75. I don’t know. I like eNone to 75 at a 1:3 ratio. P74 and TAA doesn’t work. I’ve tried like 50 mcg of each combined.