Low-dose P75 observations

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12/24/13 - P75 Test Notes

First off, I’d like to thank Jasmin for the excellent shipping time. I received my order just this afternoon after ordering the Thursday before. 3 business days is incredibly quick coming from the West coast (I live in SC). Received some chocolates and a sample of TAC as well. I could not think of a more perfect mone to use in combination with P75. I will be going on vacation for 2 weeks bringing nothing but P75 and this TAC sample with me. I may test this out with Core and Imprint from Phalanx not long after I get back. There are certainly some interesting P75 combos yet to be tried. Will definitely report back any results using P75 in combo, but this thread is strictly for low-dose solo testing of P75 for now.

Tested 2.5mcg initially. Noticed a slight boost in confidence, felt very natural. It felt as if I were wearing nothing at all really, but in a good way. I felt very much fearless, like I could take on anything and anyone, but I still had my conscious holding me back when necessary, ensuring I didn’t do anything stupid.

P75 definitely feels like it’s altering my conscious in powerful ways, but it seems impossible to be aware of it at the time. It certainly could help potentiate permanent change in behaviour, if you’re looking for that sort of thing.

It makes me very calm, but authoritative. It feels unprofessional in a sense, like it wouldn’t fit in a traditional suit-and-tie establishment. Someone described it as a high-school-jock vibe, and I’d have to agree, but this is the likable type of jock. He is friendly and popular to all, but step on his toes and you are certain to regret it. P75 carries an intimidating sort of vibe to it, but not in a terrifying A314 business sense. More in the sense that you’re afraid to speak to him because of his popularity. The shy sort of intimidation rather than the passive-aggressive sort you see with A314 and the aggressive vibe of high none products. Show good character and they will open up to you while remaining respectful. Act friendly while wearing this product for best results, this isn’t A314. I doubt most could successfully pull off this vibe without it backfiring on them. I feel that you must act friendly for this product to work best, but never overtly so. Only reciprocate kindness if you are shown kindness. No beta, apologetic behaviour here. This product will help you carry the proper vibe with the self-effects, but break this vibe and there are certain to be consequences. Vibe off of the self-effects of this product and congruency will come naturally. Be direct, but don’t come on too strong. Take action if you want to get the best results here. That being said, I feel a passive, indirect approach could work just as well, carrying a vibe of mystery to it. This product could prove to be more versatile than I thought, especially at these low doses.

Note: I’ve tried P75 before, but only at doses 12.5mcg and above. 5.0mcg feels much more natural in its self-effects, though no less powerful. I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again: despite the common belief held by many, P75 is NOT androstanone. This I am absolutely certain of. The effects are simply too different. SteveO and Jasmin have confirmed this for me. If you’d like to read my other thoughts on this matter, take a look at my posts at DiscoverXS and some of my previous posts here, as I’m not repeating them again. It’s been quite some time since I’ve tested -anone, so I apologize if my thoughts on the matter seem a bit vague. I may attempt this experiment again, since I failed to write anything on the matter last time. It will be another comparison involving P75, P80, and -anone from various sources at slightly different purities. For the moment, my conclusion is that P80 is -anone, not P75.

Application point: 1 spray to throat. The fragrance, 6% Neroli, faded immediately after 10 minutes drydown leaving little to no detectable scent. I have no doubt this could be covered by any fragrance without clashing, as the scent is very weak. I still can’t detect the scent of P75 itself, though I’m sure it has one. Total 2.5 mcg, tested outside getting the mail, no targets within range, added 2.5mcg more to chin and spread acrosd jawline after returning home. This was strictly a self-effects test and my observations of the vibe at this low-dose. I’m very good at picking up on the overall vibe mones give off, but I’m sure my thoughts will change over time. At the moment, this is what I’ve gotten out of a very short test. More thoughts to come later.

Putative Pheromone P75 - Masculine, Respect, Sexy
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I had experienced some slight physical anxiety not long after re-applying, possibly a bit of self-effects backfire? A slight tingling sensation in my face, the same feeling one gets right before blushing. Very interesting…

I feel much less argumentative and more straightforward than usual. This is good, since I tend to be confrontational and overly detailed in conversation, expanding far too much most times. P75 allows me to be content in being positively blunt. I explain only as much as I need to, no more. I’m sure this argumentative side could come out when challenged, but I feel as if no one wants to challenge me while wearing P75, in a friendly rather than fearful way, if that makes sense.

Edit: I can now confirm some of my thoughts here. When challenged, I still often find myself in a heated exchange, but this escalates less when using P75. In refusing to back down, the opposing party may eventually feel threatened and back down only to revert to being friendly and respectful once again. Unlike with A314, arguing does not cause fear and disdain, but a slight increase in the friendly respect I’ve seen in the past from P75. While I wouldn’t encourage argument, P75 does allow me to get out unscathed, without dealing any damage to reputation in the eyes of your opponent. An unexpected surprise…

I’ve also experienced the bro effect many have reported here. In fact, this may be the most prominent effect I’ve noticed on others in social situations. P75 brings you up the level of those who otherwise might think of themselves as above you. When wearing P75, you are below no one, but only in a social sense. Men,do not feel threatened by your presence. Unlike others, I’ve only experienced friendly respect (the “bro effect”) on other men at any dose range, never avoidance.

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Heh, well, Jasmin doesn’t work here anymore. We contact her for tough questions occasionally.

The gents to thank are our awesome fulfillment team who work like crazy ninjas to get your packages out with goodies every day!

Solo testing is awesome, thank you!

This is all at 2.5 mcg/spray?? How many sprays, & what was your application point? (Nevermind.. i just needed to scroll. :o)

Interesting. A potentiator.

5.0 = sweet spot?

Noting your first impressions is great! Some of the best info gathering comes from your first, fresh impression. Your mind is clear, your possibilities are open. It seems every time after that, you’re flavored in some way. (Which is good too, but noting down the entirety of your first experience is golden!)

I can completely use that. Very interesting, indeed.

If P75 were a celebrity, who would it be?

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Good to hear about your experiences Ekscentra :slight_smile: I consider myself a P75 junkie.

Try it along with A314 (2.5 to 5 mcg )it would be like a Jamesbond who had a few too many martinis. add a swagger to all that glam and power.

I am surprised by the anxiety effect. for me its always the opposite.
sometimes I wonder if it mimics the effect of coke minus the euphoria.

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It’s unfortunate Jasmin no longer works here, I’m sorry to hear that. The note I received was signed in her name, however.

I’m glad you appreciate my findings, John. I think it’s time we got back to proper, solo testing of molecules for a change, wouldn’t you agree? The less confounding factors, the better.

Initial impressions can certainly be very telling. The core effects of the molecule can be fleshed out easily, but I feel the deeper layers may take time to reveal themselves. By “colouring” our testing, these layers often reveal themselves quite quickly.

Celebrity? John Stamos, without a doubt. You want to be his friend, you respect him in a social sense, but you can never take him too seriously. The perfect embodiment of P75 at this dose range, I feel.

No additional discoveries at this dose range. I’ll continue solo testing for a week, move onto another product, then start comboing.

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I don’t have any A314 at the moment, but I’ll definitely keep that in mind.

Don’t get me wrong, the anxiety I experienced was very minor, and only of the physical kind, but I still felt it was noteworthy, considering it happened immediately after application. This has since subsided and, like you, I’ve experienced a lessening of anxiety since then. P75 is like a bodyguard in a sense. If you know he’s there to protect you, you will feel less anxious, but if it’s someone else’s body guard, you may find yourself feeling more anxious. P75 is still intimidating only in a social sense, but this is the best analogy I could think of at the time. Anxiolytic to self, positively anxiogenic to others. A protectant to self, but a defendant from others. P75 protects from the AMOGing attempts of others, requiring little effort of one’s own. P75 allows you to come out of any confrontation unscathed. P75 doesn’t need to refer to itself as alpha, it simply is. Smooth and very comfortable with itself, sure of itself, that is what P75 is. This is what the wearer of P75 slowly becomes. I always felt high-dose P75 to be too over the top for everyday wear. Low-dose P75 with the natural vibe it gives off is perfectly suitable for everyday wear. Along with A314, the self-effects will turn any beta male into a highly attractive alpha. P75 can be very forgiving if you roll with the vibe. It is nearly impossible to screw up with P75 unless you were to deliberately sabotage your efforts. The perfect base molecule for any mix, IMO. I can think of few mixes that would clash with this vibe.

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Continued testing of P75 yielded no additional findings. It’s difficult testing around family in a low-projection environment, but this is all I have to work with at the moment. Once I get back from my vacation, I’ll spend 1-2 months testing other products, after which I’ll switch back to P75.

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Well Said… !! cant agree with you more. the best part about P75 is that you dont have to posture to be alpha.. it gets under your skin and takesover.. not even A314 does that to me.. (except A314 version 26 UFE which I am told is very expensive to make)

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I thought I’d add my own observation about P75. When I’ve exceed 2.5 mcg and worn 5 mcg my gf says I come across as rough and slightly aggressive, bare in mind, this is a girl I’ve worn crazy high amounts of none around, you’re talking 2x ammo and 2-3x TUTH and she has never found that dosage to give an aggressive signal off (she’s early 20s and so am I) but with 5mcg of P75 pretty much EVERYTIME she comments on how my face seems more rough that day.

One thing I have noticed though is that guys have been friendly to me more when wearing it, which surprised me as I thought it’d end up having a similar effect to something like TUTH.

I’m not a reporter of the calibre of many of the other guys on this site but I hope my observations are of some help.

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Yes your observations are of help, thanks for reporting :slight_smile:

I’m considering to buy this putative with my next order. Seems like it is extremely powerful, even at low dosages.

How long did you find the effects lasted?

Also, what did your girl feel with the P75? Did it turn her on? Can it be a replacement for -none products you think?

P75 not being repulsive to guys makes it all the more interesting. Some of my male friends don’t dig me when wearing high -none products. I’d rather not deal with AMOG behaviour if I can just wear some P75 :smiley:

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The effects last around 8-12 hours, depending on the environment.

I’m currently single, so I couldn’t answer your question. Along with this, I haven’t had the chance to test low doses around women who weren’t family members. I can say that, in my experience, P75 can be offputting to certain women, blondes especially. I had previously thought this effect could be eliminated by lowering the dosage, but Pago’s observations make me think otherwise. Whether or not your wife will agree with it is difficult to say. Blondes aren’t necessarily turned off by it, just a bit weirded out for whatever reason. Latinas, on the other hand, almost universally love P75. I don’t think it’s a race connection as with P93, but I honestly don’t have any answer here. I’ll have to look into this one more. I’ve always noticed P75 can be offputting to certain women, as well as some men at higher doses, but I’ve never understood what might be causing this. I may wear P75 around some female friends and ask about any negative reactions, what sort of vibe I gave off that caused them to act so repulsed. For now, I’m taking a short, 2-month break from P75 to test other mixes, but I’ll get back to this as soon as I feel like experimenting again.

Edit: Apologies, I had misread. Didn’t see Devil’s post there. My mistake.

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I wouldn’t say your observations are anything other than up to par with other members on this board. They’re very helpful and ring true to my own experiences. P75 aggression is definitely more pronounced starting at 5mcg. I can be very confrontational when challenged, so it was difficult for me to make this realization until you posted here. Feel free to post any of your other findings here, I feel few have really dug deep enough to understand P75’s deeper layers, though a few of us here have done just that. As much as I feel I may know about P75, there’s still so much more to discover. Every report matters here.

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As for your previous post, it’s hard to tell if it turned her of because I usually wear it alongside none based products.

With respect to the post I’ve quoted above, she’s said that I look rougher and come across more aggressive even when I’ve been calm, so my thinking is, P75 at a dosage of 5mcg and above just sends off an aggressive signal.

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This thread is great, my two cents on P75: I have tested it a lot in clubs as I see the most blatant effects there. To me with P75 on I usually get more female interest than without, and that interest is mostly unapologetic eye contact or approach invitations, if you’re on the dance floor you see females gathering around you and the guys go away. You can basically approach any girl and not get rejected if you know your sweet spot, it has this magnetic pull that is irresistible. I think that is because it makes me feel aloof, my demeanor and body language is different, I don’t show interest in females around me or being a try-hard which makes me interesting. I don’t feel it is a sexual, the effects are mostly mental and the attraction effects can be amplified with TAF.

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i have the “Jean claude van damme getting ready for battle” appearance,and for some reason P75 make me feel so aggressive very intense even at low dose.with 2.5mcg I hardly feel anything,but at 5mcg my goodness!!! amazing selfies,balls of steel in a bottle.but at the same time I become very harsh,angry,uneasy,body temperature rise,sweat even in the cold winter,my face get tense up and look serious and intimidating as hell! we’re all different.some can rock more than 10mcg no problem,and some can’t go more than 5mcg.i love the self effect,but hardly use P75.usually I wear products that soften my image or cool and charismatic products like IG,nude or nude alpha.don’t get me wrong though,75 is an excellent juice but not for me

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As my in-laws are all Latino, I am curious if anyone established any indication of an OD reaction to P75 by Latin ladies, if so at what mcg total?

Elsewhere on the board, it has been said that the sweet spot for P75 is exceedingly low-dose. There are reports of OD negative effects for some users at 2.5 or 3mcg (I infer this may have just been with whites or blondes) while others are reporting no negatives at 12.5. It is agreed that it gets very powerful at 5.0mcg - no less powerful at that dose than at higher doses. My question is, are there users who find it no less powerful at doses less than 5.0mcg? What is the cost-benefit of the power difference between 2.0mcg (perhapse less) and 5.0mcg. It seems like there is a lot going on in this narrow band. 2.5mcg seems too high for a daily dose to some people.

(example)
“I have experienced situations (2.5 mcg ) in which the pheromone seemed very dominating and even threatening to the other males in the area. Only after spending a lot of time “talking them down” from their threatened feeling did they relax and open up. This does not happen to all males”

… and at 3.0mcg, anxiety that damage was done…
“Well, my finger kind of slipped on the spray bottle and I tried to compensate, but I probably got closer to 3.0mcg. Plus – I had forgotten – I had used a little P75 several hours earlier in the day, so there may have been some residuals. Apparently, I got a too much. Things went well with the woman I was with, but in a very subtle emotional way, things were just not right. I am actually concerned I may have permanently damaged the relationship”

Warren suggests that “2.0mcg as the max optimal dose of P75”
and 0.5mcg was what he felt appropriate most days.
TAA and TAC combined well with P75 at 2.5mcg.

This was very telling!
“There is a very delicate balance. On the one hand, a small amount of P75 gives a man the confidence that absolutely prevents him from becoming a needy, clingy, whiny, nervous beta. On the other hand, just a little too much and he experiences an attitude of such self-sufficiency that any interest or capacity for intimacy is much diminished. I believe the effects are similar on women/others.”

There is a lot of talk about the permanent mark that P75 leaves on the user, in terms of a confidence boost even after one stops using it. It would be interesting to establish the minimum regular dose at which this effect could be established. Could it be established at a dose which does not tip the balance too far against an appropriate capacity for intimacy, where there is anxiety about damage to established relationships?

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Latin women just eat up P75. Doses at or below 30mcg are fine. Higher doses are more blatant, lower doses more subtle, but no dose is more powerful than any other dose. P75 started making people extremely hostile after about 2 weeks exposure, so I feel even this dose may be too high for daily wear. 0.5mcg sounds like an excellent idea. I may buy another bottle and dilute to this low dose. As natural as the effects may be, using daily around the same targets make the targets increasingly more hostile over time. Even the self-effects carry the same results after around 10 consecutive days of use.

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Here’s a post on how I think P75 (+P83) backfired on me.

Let me know what you guys think.

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I’m getting the same thing. I think p75 is best used for initial attraction or to cause anxiety/insecurity in SOs if you find it necessary to re-establish your power/dominance and regain the upper hand in a relationship.

If I wear it around females for more than a week or so I feel it gives them the impression that one is an uncaring, unfeeling asshole and they react accordingly.

A.

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Well, my initial reactions to p75 at 1 spray (2.5mcg) was pretty awesome. I was looking to see what it could do and decided to use 1 spray on myself and 1 spray each on two of my buddies. But being the scientist i am, i gave one core to work with and the other titan, so im curious to see what the reactions are for titan. My friend with core+p75 reported that heads turned his way in the who is this guy manner, even people he knew, like if they were questioning this new different vibe from him. Mystery is the word i would use to describe his experience. Core helped to bring people and openn him even in mid conversation. He said he felt calm, and in control, but he noticed other people appearing tired or sleepy within his vicinity? Could it be that core was amplifying the effects of p75?

My own experience was that it helped to have people looking my way, and they had inviting smiles. It allowed me to open this Asian chick in class who i never talked to but saw maybe once on the way out of class, with ease, and she seemed interested to conversate. I would have kept going but class was starting and we were taking an exam today so she left before i could finish… damn Asians lol. Anyway, even at 2.5mcg i recieved IOI’s from Asians, hispanics, but that was about it. To guys, it gave them that he’s a cool guy impression. They would joke but for approval, like they wanted me to laugh with them and be their buddy. I will test again but at 5mcg and see what the difference is between 2.5 and 5, and then report back with my findings. Um, btw how do i make a journal on here?