P 75: A Contrarian view ?

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I see that most people here recommended using P 75 in minute dosage …normally less than 2 mcgs and most it seems prefer 1 mcgs or below: Now my question is have you see the kind of in the face reactions with these teeny dosages…

Atleast in my case, i virtually found no reactions at dilutions of 1 mcgs or below: last 4-5 times I used 5 mcgs just for the heck of it… on the neck and was kinda amazed by the reaction it evoked.

I am a regular user of A314 at work and fun so I can see the results of A314.
While the confidence boosting results of P75 are there… it was the reaction from women which was surprising.

when i applied 5 mcgs the only idea was to boost my confidence to the cockiness level :smiley: But I noticed that for a good part of that day women seemed to turn around and look at me with this bewildered expression on their face, eyes wide and fluttering.. its hard to describe, but anything remotely close to this reactions was when i used Mx297+ tuth, but that was also a far cry from these reactions.

There was an office party, small conference room crowded with 20 something people I was got to like 2 meters behind this lady in early thirties..and was stuck there cause there were other people .. and a minute later she suddenly flips around, looks at me with this strange smile and blush as if pondering something naughty.

Now throughout the day I got similar smiles, lost expression, blushes and longing looks from several of the girls at work, mostly in their late twenties and early thirties.

Tried the same dossage for the next few days, 5 mcgs P75 and 2 drops of A314 , no buffers normally I wear IH but since my bottle is nearly over I am using it less. and each day more or less I was getting similar hits.

On the weekend, I wore it out. A lady friend I meet every weekend gives very bad reaction to none (turns into an absolute bitch when heavy none is wore around here), so i decided to try P75 instead of none for a change

My regular mix for weekends is A314 2 drops, MX 297 2-3 sprays, 2 sprays of MX391 or Heavy AMMO + IH

So this time I replaced Mx391 with 2 sprays of P75 (5 mcgs in total), bingo, everything I got from using Mx297+heavy AMMO was suddenly escalated two times… the frequent longing looks was what I still remember.

Unlike what many reported here.. about women being uncomfortable with arousal induced by P 75, i did not notice any discomfort from women. on the contrary they seem to be more than eager to come to me. I am not jumping in to any conclusions, but it looks like 5 mcgs pf P75 seems to work magic for me.. unlike micro doses which do the trick for most others.

Would like to hear more from anyone else who had similar or dissimilar results from 5 mcgs or higher.

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yea I never go above 10mcg and that’s just for testing. I find that 5-7.5mcg is just about perfect… Gives me a hell of a rush too!

I’ve also found that my voice gets deeper naturally when I wear this one… kind of weird but I really dig it. I already have a med-low voice but it really brings it out. Just wondering if you you found the same?

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Thanks for the POST! I long to have a crack at P75… I don’t have it…:frowning:

I’m enjoying the P75 debate unfold…
sits on a beach chair with a bowl of popcorn

I hope others that DO have P75 and haven’t tested it can weigh in with their observations!

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Ditto …

A314 worn with P75 seems to help step into the jamesbond role easily. I think its the silencing of inner doubts by P75 which gives the raw confidence boost… But confidence appart, if the kinda reaction i get from chicks from using P 75 continues I may not need much of none anymore :smiley:

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I wore equal amounts of P75 and Androstenone one day at high quantity. Basically I went crazy with an idea of mixing enone and P75 together in a oil medium. I dont remember the formula 100 percent its written down somewhere but it was like 6 mcgs of enone and 8 mcgs of P75 per drop. On a particular day at school I just decided to put on 4 drops of it. Those blatant overreactive results from women you guys are talking about I definitely got those. Did I like it? Yeah for the over the top feel of it all. Problem was I was a prisoner in my own mind and the whole thing actually made me less sociable and simply visual. I think having that much P75 on me could almost be a akin to being like a sociopath in the sense of finding anything concerning others as trivial and only being concerned with one’s self.

I know you can go and tell me the enone played a role. It obviously did but it did not do those other things to me. 1 drop of A7 is around 20 mcgs and considering I was wearing 4 of these custom drops 4 more mcgs wasnt gonna make that much of a difference. It should still be warned that even if you find better results with higher levels of P75 which I know is possible, to proceed with caution. I personally think 3.75-5 mcgs is more than adequate for people that like the higher ranges of it.

I know lots of people would find this to be a boring concept but I’ve adopted a minimal mantra concerning mones that give me the most natural yet beneficial responses without extremities of any kind. I think the level of human behavior that can be altered by pheromones is underestimated. All I’m saying is test things out for yourself thoroughly before listening to any of us users (for newer users who may read this). Why do you have to go out and use 45-100 mcgs of something when you can work perfectly fine in a 20-35 mcg scale for your purposes.

If Ammunition works out so well with simply a 2.5 ratio across the board with 3 main molecules what does that say about Instant and MX formulas that use triple or quadruple (if not more) the dosage of certain molecules. Even A314 adopts the “minimal attitude” because the amount of other molecules steering the Rone signature to give that alpha vibe is absolutely infinitesimal considering 80 percent of A314 is approximately rone and at around 667 mcgs of content per mL only around 133 of those mcgs are other molecules and at around 28 drops per mL each drop of A314 only has 4-4.75 mcgs of stuff other than Androsterone. AND THATS MOSTLY IN A SLOWER MEDIUM as well. (Oil)

Most importantly as Steve has remarked upon many times before.
-Be a Pioneer for yourself, Not a follower of others-

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OA some days I just love to read your posts.

Ok so p75 seems to be one of the most talked about putatives on here. There is a lot of debate on dosage and what it is or isn’t. I have seen recent test from 2.5mcgs to 20mcgs. I have recently tried it at 10mcgs and received blatant hits from men and women. Women would just stop and stare and appear to be lost. I personally hit a wall of euphoria. I felt like I was seeing the world for the first time. Everything looked more intense and beautiful. Sounds were very distracting. There is also definitely a loss of social boundaries from what I have experienced.

The problem that I have seen with higher doses of P75 is that it wears me out, and others around me. Seriously people start to fall asleep unless you are giving them attention. I also get tired when using it for long periods.

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Yea I enjoyed this post quite a bit. Also just got enone and have been thinking about making an oil based mix out of the two lately, which is kind of funny :slight_smile:

Yea P75 seems to bring out great hits for a lot of people at low dosages (under 10mcg). Wish I had more freetime to test, as with work and school (my classes are all guys… thanks a lot ) I have no time during the work-week to go out and test anywhere great.

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I really like P75 at 5mcg with nothing else.

With the end of the year approaching, it’s getting near review time at work for me. Otherwise I could see me doing P75 solo 2-3 times per week, maybe even all week.

I didn’t notice the attraction aspect of P75. (But given my IDGAF attitude with P75, I really might not have cared either way.) What I did get is confidence. Lots of confidence!

Here’s my post:

The most interesting thing that I noted at 5mcg was how my approach anxiety was converted into an eagerness to approach. I’m still shocked at that one!

I tried wearing it for self-effects with A314 at 2.5mcg for a few days. I don’t really like it with A314. I prefer P75 solo.

But there is something very dark and twisted in the soul of P75. Damned if I can put my finger on it, though.

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Jaycee1, stick to A314 if review time at work is arround. P 75 is certainly a confidence booster, but no match for A314 for its overall results at work. However I find that A314 results can be enhanced with a it of P75 to kill the inner doubts making it easier to step into the A314 projected persona.

tried P 75 again at 5 mcgs yesterday. it was DIHL galore wow… I am starting to like this product

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Subscribing for the FUNK of it! :wink:

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sorry multiple post

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Sometimes first reactions may not be all they seem.

While I got mad DIHL with P 75 solo or with a bit of A314, what I loved was when women looks at you with that thirsty look for one moment and then look away with that lost dreamy expression with a silly smirk on the face as if pondering something very private and mischievous :roll_eyes:. The above mix got me just that and more. Now last weekend, I tweaked the dose to 1 spray of MX 297 + 5 mcg P 75, while it was not bad and DIHLs were still plenty, but it certainly was not like the first time.

It appears to me that MX 297 helps to amplify women’s reactions to P 75 in a positive way. looks like when you add charm to raw sexual pull,does it result in instant infatuation :open_mouth:. I certainly have to explore more on how these two would work together.

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P75 is great, it’s far the best putative for self-effects now… Attraction + mega self-confidence. With None and Rone it’s a really attraction bomb, but also dangerous, with this combo I am fucking cocky… YEAH!!! Women with sexual problems or no self confidence don’t like it or react bitchy, but not like NPA bitchy, they think you are aggressive… :stuck_out_tongue::smiley:

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My observations exactly. I use 1s p75 (2.5mcg) with IG for work on days that I do not wear A314. In the clubs, I wear p75 so as not to care about rejection when I open ladies up. Is p75 too aggressive? I am not exactly sure, one time I had a lady salute yessir, when I asked her to dance. I thought that was weird, may be she was one of those with sexual problems or no confidence :slight_smile:.

Consumer Line: AMMO, A314, Instant Shine, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty,
Turn Up the heat, Instant Gentleman, Instant Jerk, CTTM2

MX Series: MX297, MX301, MX330, MX391, MX392, MX394, MX395

Putatives: P74, P75, P78, P83, P86, P93, P96

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I agree… I love the P75, just hope they get more soon. Anyone else notice how it deepens your voice? I dont know what it is if it just relaxes me to the point that my voice is lower or what… love it.

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Care to elaborate?
I heard it works wonders on older women but not on young ones - it just scares them off and or makes them very bitchy. Does P75 do that? Haven’t played with it much…

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NPA is really tricky, for older women it’s magic, younger girls react either bitchy, run away, or in trance and quit or haunt you… With A1 it’s more constantly. But, I find The Edge better as NPA, at least for younger women. I think The Edge has a other chemical composition, it’s more stable, safer and the attraction effects are incredible, (even better with A1, IH…), NPA is more sexual brutish.

P75 is more in the respect way, especially with none. Add P80/rone and you see similar bitchy effects (I think especially rone amplified this effect).

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I think the respect factor for P75 comes from the the casual aggressiveness triggered in the behaviour of the wearer. The stuff virtually takes over your behavior, the deep growl in the voice and the lack of self doubt in action and words, would naturally make others step back a little :stuck_out_tongue:

I personally find it an excellent substitute for none.
I have a friend who is almost allergic to none.. may be it arouses her too much beyond her comfort level that I’ve observed her to be snappish whenever I wear heavy none around her. However whenever I substitute none with P75, I get dreamy looks and sly smiles and no negative reactions. There is another woman barely legal :stuck_out_tongue: She’zz 17nish responds excellently to none whenever I had worn MX391 around her I got very overt hits..this one too responds well to P75.

So as long as I have P75, I think I can even do without none :slight_smile:

My normal dosage of P75 is 2.5 to 5 Mcgs

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Yea I found that a bit myself for P75 - though not for others. Even lower doses (2.5 mcg) seemed to make me a bit tired and negative if worn throughout the day. Effects were generally more friendliness from people, guys and girls. I didn’t see too many sexual effects at the time, but confidence wasn’t high!

It definitely did have a kind of ‘outcome independence’ effect at times, on myself and others. I wouldn’t put it quite in the same class as A314 for confidence building or respect but then again P75 doesn’t seem to make people back off at all socially.

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It definitely did have a kind of ‘outcome independence’ effect at times, on myself and others. I wouldn’t put it quite in the same class as A314 for confidence building or respect but then again P75 doesn’t seem to make people back off at all socially.

Wow I haven’t heard from you in a while!:open_mouth: Where you been man?

On topic: I LOOOOOVE P75. I remember Jasmine saying it was closer on a molecular level to P79 than P83. I’ve yet to try P79 but based off the feedback I’ve heard I still believe P75 has some P83 qualities. P75 is like P83 in that it skips past normal social barriers but P75 feels more self-directed than outerly (is that a word?) directed like P83.

P79 though, is reported to also be a bit primal because it amplifies thoughts, moods, etc. I believe the reason why is that P79 (like P75 and P83) boost the primal parts of the human brain and because of that people will become more vocal/expressive with their desires or feelings. P75 does this on a more intrapersonal level, which is why people report such strong side effects.

Just my two cents.