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Well, now that I know I got your attention, I just wanna say that my name is Jordan and I am here to party! Well not party literally, but get the party started with pheromones. Although I’m sure theres probably a separate sight for partying, but thats a story for another day. Ok back on track. I am 26, from the Dorchester Massachusetts, and I’m about 5’9" and 200 pounds. I’d say I do ok with the ladies. I’ve been laid before, so I guess like most men that gave me the extra added determination to get more of it. Uhh, other than paying for it. I’d like to think of myself as a little bit funny, I do an ok job of making people laugh and I am the social type. I guess if I got all that going for me I wouldnt need to try pheromones. Right? WRONG jeopardy buzzer. I can open like no ones business, I just have trouble closing. I think adding a little something something to my arsenal of openers (more like an artillery shop), I would have better success closing. Im not looking for miracle formula, actually I’m still pretty skeptical at this point, but in doing my research around the internet, this site and the androtics site seem to come highly recommended. With that being said, does anyone have any ideas were I should start? I am a padawon and need the jedi guidance right now. The force is strong with me, but still, I must learn the ways so I dont stray over to the dark side. All help is appreciated. And I’m happy to be a part of this universe.

Ps: I do NOT use star wars lines on girls.

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Good! :stuck_out_tongue: :smiley:

Well Jordan, pheros won’t do it all for you so you are quite right to be wary of the claims made by many other phero sellers, never mind some of the products. As well as AD products, you will soon find the good competitive products and sellers in discussion here.

However, pheros do combine very well with your personality and presentation and help to get the interest and set the scene for you to do better on a more regular basis.

To that end, I’d suggest you look further into the following:

Ammo - All round sexy/social/masculine mix of the three main pheros, none rone and nol. Effective in a wide range of situations - You will need to do some work to find your effective dose.

Instant Shine - Happy/feelgood and socially confident, the most all-round phero in the AD range and a superb companion to Ammo.

IO - Mainly Alphanol, promotes flowing conversation in a light bubbly way - Great icebreaker around younger women and good to moderate the more overt/agressive none-based pheros. Sometimes you may wish they would shut right-up though. :wink:

IH - Mainly Betanol, promotes close, confiding and bonding conversation. Move to this once when getting to know someone better. Also goes very well with IS. Only disadvantage of IH is the TMI moments or stopping them from telling you their entire life story in one go.

IG - Mainly rone, for a smooth/suave, status feel without the sometimes daunting, standoffish or “dad-like” feel of A314.

Also for secondary consideration:

TUTH - Much more overt none, very sexual and intended for use by established sexual partners so can come-on too strong and be repellant in more social situations/work/church etc, resulting in you getting ghosted or provoking testy/aggressive behaviour. However it can be useful in clubs and more raunchy places when moderated by IO and worth keeping on-hand when things do turn very sexual to seal the deal.

IJ - five times the none of standard TUTH, steered towards the abrasive. Keep this for when you want to let your inner bastard out to play and expect anything - including fights and not so good stuff. This is a very extreme mix that gets highly polarised reactions.

A314 - Can be useful in dating with women over their mid 20s/30s as they transition to responding to a higher status/more sexually overt signature but also very high status/serious/LTR-minded and mature. A lot of women don’t find it “fun” or “cuddly” Superb for professional qualities/status at work though. Oil is by far the best version.

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Jordan Smith… You’ve posted a great Intro… haven’t seen such a good one in a long time! Good for you! You’re right on track to get your GC. I can feel it! :slight_smile:

That’s something the Admin’s of this site will look at, but, from what you’ve posted, you have an EXCELLENT response by Mobo. Love it when he gets all analytic on the mones you could use.

For HOW to use them effectively, I’ll suggest you take a look at my sig below, Intro to Mones and How to know what are hits. 2 excellent threads among many that will help you out. I could see either an AMMO or IG as a base product combo’d with IShine can get you so much help in closing the deal, as you say.

Let us know What you decided to get and how it went! :smiley:

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Hello jordan, and welcome to the forums!

Just a few questions to help us give you more concise and focused advice…

When you say you can open like no body’s business, yet need help closing, what do you mean? Because you later said that you’d like to add to your arsenal of openers.

Mobo has given some great suggestions (well, he’s recommended virtually the entire commercial line!) but we can narrow down what you should try first if we know what area you’d really like to focus on.

If you truly do need help with opening (sounds like you’ve got it covered though) you should try IO, IH or their constituent molecules alpha and beta androstenol. But these aren’t sexual pheromones, they’re almost purely social. Another in this category (sort of) would be instant shine. Shine is exceptional for the self effects, and it elevates the mood of many around you as well. Great for buffering sexual mones (see below).

If you’re looking for a little help in “sealing the deal” so to speak, Ammo, IG, or TUTH would be more suitable. Turn Up The Heat is, as mobo said, quite overt. It’s not something I’d wear to church bingo, for instance. It can be useful outside of the bedroom in the usual pick up spots, bars, clubs, parties, etc, but it almost always needs to be “buffered” or “steered” (to introduce some terminology) with other pheromones so as not to overpower those around you. Pheros will unconsciously signal certain responses in those that smell them - it’s like a subliminal “kick me” sign except, you know, not kicking. Most people need to mask that phero signature with “lighter” more social mones like androstenol.

If you want to venture beyond the ridiculous guarantee on the commercial products, there are some very interesting putative and experimental compounds that might be to your liking. Consider p83 if you want to step outside of the main product line. But AD products outside the commercial “instant” pheros are experimental - they don’t have a guarantee for a reason. Most of them are putative or suspected pheromone-like compounds and they are new, and un- or under-tested. With a little reading you’re bound to find some discussions of these products, and their interesting and sometimes varied results. They’re the reason I still post here - if I were only interested in the commercial line, I wouldn’t need the forum!

Anyway, read around (especially the threads in Alpha1’s signature) and ask any questions you might have. Here in your intro thread or in the Men’s forum are generally the best place to post queries.

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Thanks guys. I appreciate it!
Mobocaster: I will definitely give those a look
1Alpha: I am absolutely going to read everything you suggested
Redlion: When I said I’d like to add to my arsenal, I meant that adding another dimension to how I approach, and how I open, will in turn help me to close better.

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Welcome to pherotalk Jordan!

We don’t think that at all, pheromone usage is just a step up. I am slender and most ppl ask why do you go to the gym. You should never stop working on yourself.

I know these will do you a world of good

Your gc was issued!