I’ve been going through and reading what threads I could find in the archives.
Anyway, just as a quickie mix I did 1 drop in a 5ml togo of IJ.
I read in one thread where people were letting their mix sit in a cool dark place stirring it occasional for a week. Is this actually necessary? Or is the mix ready to go?
Thanks in advance!
I think the week wait is mainly for when you are mixing different mones together. I don’t think it applies to cops.
When I make my 180:1 solutions I start using them right away without any bad effects.
Sounds like you’ve got a test batch made up, I’d give it a little shake and start testing right away. I would not wait a week. You might notice if the hits improve after a week on the shelf though.
Gent, are you going to report on the cops/spiked IJ in your journal? I can’t wait for that. Also, be careful with the cops around your girl, if you understand what I mean.
BTW, what is your reason to spike the IJ, and not put the cops in PA ?
Yeah I’ll definitely be careful. And the reason for IJ, was because I don’t have any PA. I may pick up some everclear or something today.
Not sure, but pretty much everyone does it so it might be a good idea.
I use 8 entire droppers per 1 30mL bottle. Not 8 drops, but 8 droppers. Tisha told me that and it works like a charm.
But that means that anything between 3 drops and 8 entire droppers is a viable amount…what does this mean? 
Ever had a negative reaction to the smell Steve?
Nope only very pronounced attraction triggers 
Wow! that seems like a lot.
You fill up the dropper 8 x’s and dump that into a 30ml bottle of IJ?
That is what I would like to know is he putting it in IJ or PA?
Now bear in mind there was another topic where Catlord suggested 2-3 DROPS…for a 30ml bottle. Much more he said would be too much of a player vibe.
Its depends on the vibe your going for. When Steve and I were talking about copulins it was in reference to IJ and Dirty.
The original IJ had quite a bit of copulins in it I can smell them just walking up to the bottle. Dirty was horrendous LOL
If your using a 5 ml bottle anywhere from 3 to 8 DROPS is fine depending on what your looking for. If you want an in demand vibe but not a player vibe go with 2 or 3. If your want IJ go with 8 drops.
Keep in mind when Steve says 8 droppers full he is talking about in a 30 ml bottle. There is only 5 ml in a to-go bottle. There is about 10 to 15 drops in a eow dropper but it varies. So 8 droppers full is not alot for 30 ml
That would come out to about 3 to 4 drops per 5 ML bottle.
Tisha
By my math, it works out to 1.333 droppers full of EoW for a 5mL size IJ.
30mL / 6 = 5mL
8 droppers / 6 = 1.333 droppers
Am I missing something here?
EDIT: I added about 1 to 1.3 droppers of EoW to a 5 mL IJ some time ago, but I haven’t used it yet.
I really fail to understand why there is such a discrepancy between all the suggestions. The difference between 3 drops and 8 droppers full in a 30ml is so huge…
The only way this can be tested is starting with 3 drops in the 30ml and adding a drop in the bottle everytime one uses it. I shall call it ‘sweet drop testing’.
Different preferences and make ups.
Tisha knows damn well what she’s talking about and I believe (I’m not speaking for her) that her conversations with Steve led her to recommend something along the lines for that.
There are no set rules when you’re using EOW/Cops and it, just like all the other products here, have to be tested for you.
People tend to want to follow what really famous users do (in this case Steve with the 8 droppers of EoW in a 30 mL) and thats perfectly fine considering I love the ICM mixes and MX330. But with that said even 1/4-1 drop is enough to send me reeling and in many ways destroying the integrity of the scent/ cologne for me. Even the strongest parfums I’ve tried to see if they hold up against bits of a EoW. NIL I’ve found nothing that does and will not continue to search lol. Its less stinky to get actual social proofing ( a decent looking girl friend('s) )
For the record, my last post wasn’t intended to doubt what the (experienced) users are saying here. I respect their opinions and experiences too much. But the whole cops thing is so intrigueing to me. It’s like dark matter, what does it do, why does it do that and how many is there?
There are plenty of research here. And there is also google. But it works for men in low dosages, from what I understand. I haven’t really delved into this so I can’t give you an accurate response. I can only tell you what I’ve read with some of the more experienced and respected members here.
Jay I had to go to work this morning so I was just giving a estimates off the top of my head. I am a science buff not a mathematician.
I will figure it out for those who want to know though.
Now when Steve says 8 droppers full he is referring to what I told him to add to a 30 ml bottle when trying to replicate the copulins in IJ. I have both IJ with copulins and without and I told him what I added to mine to recreate the IJ formula.
However when thegentleman asked he was referring to adding it to a 5 ml bottle not a 30 ml bottle.
I am testing right now how many drops are in my EOW droppers.
ewww ewwwww ewwwwww gag gag Ok I am done (snort)
It comes out to 8 drops. Which surprised me because I expected more. There is still some left in the dropper but it wont come out by squeezing the bulb on the dropper top so I am only counting what comes out when you squeeze a full dropper of eow. I tested all 6 of my bottles and they all came out the same with only slight variations of 1 drop or less. My bottles are older and I was telling Steve the calculation I used from those bottles. Test your own bottles cause your droppers may be different they changed the bottles due to melting recently. Then do the math.
8x8=64/6= 10.6 drops to a 5ml bottle. To create something close to IJ.
Now Catlord uses less because he is not going for the IJ vibe. This is why you see variations. He is going for a more subtle higher value in demand vibe not the player vibe. So he uses a lot less and the volume of what he has used has gone down over the years for what works for his situation. Keep in mind copulins are no different then any other pheromone in that you have to work to find the dosage that works for you.
Most of you were not here when Dirty and the original IJ were in the line up. Let me tell you I still cant get close to my bottle of Dirty LOL I keep my IJ and dirty locked in a air tight container with the rest of my copulin products. Except my industrial strength copulins which are highly concentrated and you need to wear gloves and a mask to even work with them. Those are in a airtight container in my shed. The down side of that is when ever my husband go’s out to the shed he yells it smells like crotch in here and comes back sweaty and horny LOL The plus side of that is it keeps the wild animals from trying to get in there LOL
The reason I am suggesting 3 to 4 drops per 5 ml for newbies is because you can always work up by adding more if you need it but once its in there you its harder to work down.
Thank you for the vote of confidence, This is true. What I would suggest to Steve who is a highly experienced knowledgeable user is different then what I would suggest to a person who is just starting out with copulins. He knows how to use them and how to cover them. He also knows how to work the vibe to his advantage
Copulins are not easy to use pheromones like the other molecules you use here. They stink and take a lot of patience and practice to get right. The experienced ladies can use up to 10 or more drops straight to the skin. We can and do cover without much trouble. Men have a harder time with the smell especially from the bottle or on themselves. Its like having a foreign substance on you.
As far as men in a relationship or who are married. I would not suggest copulins at all. Woman can pick up on them. We instinctively know the smell of our own even though its not a conscious thought. Using synthetic copulins has sent more then a few men I know to the couch for the night.
I know you were not questioning my experience and I did give a quick reply this morning so the confusion is my fault.
Its really not all that mysterious.
What do they do ?
Well, first you should know what they are. Synthetic copulins are made from acids and fatty lipids the same as copulins we secrete naturally.
Men do not secrete them. They are the vaginal secretions of fertile females during ovulation. The ones you buy are more concentrated then natural ones we secrete so they tend to stink.
Now we can cover what they do, Copulins worn by a women will spike a mans testosterone level by 150% when exposed to them. Its a chemical reaction caused by both the smell and the visual of a female. (remember guys are more visual). Some men report arousal during sleep when exposed to them but I suspect they are dreaming of a women so thats the visual that spurs it on.
Anywhoo when men smell this they instinctively look for the female sending out the fertile signal much like when animals go into heat. It causes them to become sexually aroused on a instinctual and biological level. It signals its time to procreate.
Why do they do that, Well we are mammals and we do communicate in many different ways including phromonally and instinctively although because we are more evolved we rely more on our logical left sided brain and are conscious of the verbal communication more. But its like riding a bike, you may just drive everywhere now and never use your bike but you never forget how to ride it.
How many are there ? Not sure what you mean by this.
I would, EOW is oil based and made from acids and lipids so you will probably always need to shake the bottle a little before each use. Waiting lets it bind and set more. Sort of like a curing process.
Tisha
One thing I would like to add to this discussion is that if you’re really worried about coming off as “too much of a player” I’ve discovered that A1 can help temper the effects of copulins. I’ve been experimenting with an A1/Cops combo for the past few months. Each time, I got very few negative reactions however my EOW dilution is 3 drops EOW in a 30ml bottle (technically 25ml since I used 5ml beforehand).
The most I’ve used was 3 sprays of EOW dilution and I used it with some P75 however the A1 lotion I had rubbed on earlier was still diffusing (which pleasantly surpised me) and the two women I was around didn’t react negatively at all. I actually got compliments on the smell (which also pleasantly surpised me 
). Also got some respect hits from the guys
SteveO actually uses a similar technique. Read his journal, and you’ll see right before he puts on his IJ/cops mix he washes himself down head to-toe with Dial Magnetic(essentially A1) and his results seem to mirror mine. I guess A1’s comfort inducing effects help balance copulins’ distancing effect.
Another important rule about cops is: location, location, LOCATION! There is a time, and place to use it. If there is a certain girl you want to date, cops could send out the wrong vibe and essentially screw you over unless you’re wearing it with something to help counter this. As Tisha already pointed out, using around your GF/Wife/whoever will have you on the couch, curled up, in the fetal position all alone. HINT HINT.
Thanks guys man this is turning out to be a very educational thread.
I took out the togo bottle I had mixed today and shook it up and put on one spray and I could smell the cops right away…wow that stuff is so strong.
I’m going to definitely play this all safe. As I stated earlier my girl is bi, and that is kinda what intrigued me the effects of high amounts of EOW on bi women. Now I’m not into sharing her…LOL…and that is not my intention here. But we have talked on many occasions about what turns us on when looking at a woman, she also has a back up plan to “marry” a girl she’s known since high school who as she put it…“tapped that.”
I did go up and visit her about half an hour ago, had mx297 plus IJ with cops on and she was just in a really playful bad girl kinda mood, and me…well the IJ had me in a very playful bad boy kind of mood so we had a really good time.
If at any time she puts on the brakes and is like “woah, who do I smell on you?” I’ll reluctantly give up the bottle of EOW and show her…and tell her my dastardly plan which was to excite and arouse her, since quite honestly TUTH and NPA just isn’t having that much of an effect on her.