Spray or Mix?

Ok how many of you successfully formulated your own mix?

I did a 2ml TAA
2ml TAL
1ml B-nol
1 dropperful Cops

then sprayed 3 spray of the mix in my hair.

I get nothing but a headache. Twice this mix has made me drowsy.
When u mix it, is it like adding baking soda and vinegar? You get something else? Also feeling a cold come on with teary eyes.

Partially cuz the pats lost, and maybe od-ing on vitamins, and wearing flip flops in the rain…

if anything people seemed annoyed with me…like i stink or something.

What are you using for cops?

1 dropperful of some available copulin products is way too much.

I’ve got a few mixes that I like… but mostly I like to layer. If I’m using a dropper full of cops in a mix, then it’s a 15 ml bottle or approximately 100 sprays. If I want more cops, I can simply add cops neat with this mix when I wanna punch it up.

I guess I’d wonder how many mg or mcg per ml is in your androstenol? The same with the others? That could make a major difference. For instance, I have a 1 mg (or 1000 mcg) per ml androstenol. I like to dilute before mixing so that I’m getting between 5 mcg and 10 mcg per spray.

Its to much for men but not a 30 year old women it depends on a few factors that I will explain below. EOW is not as strong as when it first came out.

Have you used this mix in layering before with good results. Thats the first thing I always look at before I attempt to make a composite. Always be sure to layer and test first so you dont mix something and waste it. This will give you a better feel for what your results will be.

Then you need to look at what strength TAL Bnols and TAA your using.

Then you need to decide which one will be your primary pheromone and which will be your secondary and supplimental pheromones.

Another factor to consider, are your products scented or not? If not you may want to add a scent. Let it cure for a few days in a cool dark place as I find waiting will blend it better. You want to use something that will aid in diffusion. If they dont diffuse you wont effect anyone. You can also opt to leave off the scent and use a highly diffusive cover scent.

When I composite a mix I will not fill a whole 5ml bottle the first time. I try to just make enough for 3 or 4 applications and then if the mix works out I will make a 5ml bottle of it.

Keep in mind that people have mentioned getting headaches from Instant Shine in high doses at first which is TAA so you would go lower with that or not use it as your primary pheromone.

The key point though is to pick your primary and work around that when adding other pheromones. It depends of course on what products you own but here is a example of a simular mix…

Lets say for the sake of this example you have everything in the standard low dosage.

Suppose, I want a mix that is connecting, intimate,warm, nurturing. attracts and is arousing. I would try to choose pheromones that compliment each other.

Bnols = deep meaningful conversation, feeling of closeness, intimacy, best friend vibe (intimate, warm, attracts, connects) This is my primary. (3ML)

TAA = feeling of warmth and happiness, draws people to you. (Warm connects, attracts) This is my secondary pheromone. (1ML)

TAL = strong, sexy, confident vibe (I would leave it out) (none)

To suppliment my primary and secondary…

I would opt for TAH or EST. Because they are more indicative or congruent to the vibe i am looking for. TAH makes me a bit ditzey but it dosnt do that to everyone and I have grown used to it. Its soft nurturing sexy. Est is also nurturing and intimate. This is why I would choose those and use smaller amounts. (0.5 ML of each) (sexy, nurturing, connects)

Cops = signals youth and I am ready for sex. (attracts arouses) There is a few factors you need to consider here. Where do you plan to use this mix. How much copulins do you need straight to see a reaction. Suppose we just want a subtle sexy vibe. I would probably use (1/2 a dropper full).

No added scent because I like to change my scent daily.

This is not to say that your doing something wrong with your mix. This is just how I do it.

On copulins and my personal experience…

I use upward of 8 to 10 drops to see a reaction from my husband so if I planned to primarily use this mix around him I would use a full dropper full of cops and probably just suppliment it when I wore the mix by using a few drops neat. If I plan to wear it out around other men then I would still need around 1/2 to 3/4 dropper full and not use any straight when wearing it. I am older then you and need more to see any reaction. You should probably use half a dropper full and suppliment when needed. This will make the mix more versatile. Point is start low and suppliment.

Androtics will use trace amounts of cops in products like MX135, MX134, IS/A and B to add a feminine sexy attractive vibe to the product and to make it safe for all women to use anywhere. But they do give us the option in the consumers products to up the cop output to make it more aggressive for those who are looking for that. Plus there is Lust After Me the mega cop mix. This choice really depends on your tastes.

I bit about the t-series…

Mharris has said they can become a whole different beast when you mix them or mega dose with them. For this reason its inportant to mega dose with them before mixing and see what you get and to layer with them to check out those reactions. I feel this is the best way to know if you should mix them or not.

Sometimes its good to mix 2 products that dont really compliment each other just to test what kind of reaction you get. Like MH posted sometimes you can create a whole new beast.

Hope this helps some, Dont feel bad if a mix dosnt work out right away. You can tweak it or suppliment it if need be so it wont be a total waste of pheromones. Just never add to much at once cause its easier to suppliment then it is to buffer.

Good luck :wink:

Tisha

I dare you to put a dropperful of my “industrial grade” copulins mixed with 5 ml of anything on your body and claim after 5 minutes that it’s not too strong. My bet is that if you made it through the 5 minutes without scrubbing it off you would have been retching most of the time.

One of the drawbacks of not having Androtics copulins is that accurate, repeatable dosage is quite difficult.

That’s why I said “some available” copulin products. Sugarspice did not specify which copulin product she was using.

I used EW. Probably won’t be using the industrial grade, since I want to preserve my mucus membranes.

I have 3 year old bottle of EW. Hopefully it has mellowed with age. When I first got it, the rubber on the eye dropper melted after several weeks. When used undiluted it irritated my skin. I was hoping to use it on my GF, but she didn’t work out so I tried it on myself. Didn’t do a dang thang for me. No self-effects. Nuttin’. The real thing smells much better.

Shit I have a bottle of the industrial and I wont take the dare. I cant get near the bottle let alone put a dropper full in something (snort) .

True my EOW has been different the last 3 times I ordered it. Seems with each new bottle it gets weaker and you need more. But we will just have to make due with what we can get.

Tisha

so, Gone, what do you do with the ‘industrial’ cops?

i mean after you don the hazmat suit, go out to the yard, dig them up and open the titanium box you keep them in?

any third degree burns on Mrs. Gone? :open_mouth:

six day erections for Gone to the Doctor? :smiley:

Bella

I dilute 1 drop industrial strength to 30 ml carrier for Mrs. Gone. It’s still plenty strong.

For me, I can take her mixture and dilute it substantially more.

I have enough copulins for the next 3000 years.

thank you Gone…
do you think your one drop, diluted in 30ml, is equivalent in strength to…say…10 drops of regular EoW applied straight?

or what would be the comparison?

Can you come over and dilute mine to :smiley: Whew, that sounded kinky better bring Mrs Gone with you.

Tisha

LOL, I agree with you completely sugarspice! But that doesn’t stop me from being thoroughly entertained whenever the industrial grade copulins are mentioned. :stuck_out_tongue:

Oh something you gals might not know about mixing. I just figured it out, Duh!

When you mix, you actually dilute the solution even more. For instance, you add 2ml of EST @ 50mcg, you add 2ml of something else. Well, that something else has just diluted your original solution. So it takes two or three or more sprays to get it to go back to 50mcg, depending on how many ingredients you added.

So if I was doing three sprays of each (T-molecules)and got lazy and decided to dump it all in, I have to remember to spray atleast 9 sprays. I don’t even want to imagine what will happen if I spray 9 loaded sprays of industrial cops! Well that dropper is going to be divided by 60 sprays, so with EW cops, it’s hardly anything… I think.

Yah I think layering has so much more control until I save enough to buy it at 200mcg each. Then yall watch out!

I don’t have EW. From my reading, I think the first beta EW was essentially my “industrial grade,” but the final commercial product is much diluted.

Perhaps Tisha can offer a comparison between “industrial grade” and EW.

Come on, Tish!

Well, Gone, I was gonna ask you about your reactions to the different strength cops…nothin’ like gettin’ it straight from the man himsef!

Uh…that didn’t come out exactly the way I meant it…LOL… been hangin’ around Tish too long! :smiley:

Yes, that’s also what my wife says.

On the cops, they don’t seem to have much effect on me when used at reasonable strength. (I often find it difficult to identify self effects. Just because I have not identified them does not mean that they are not there.) My wife can identify them on me at even low doses though. The first time I used them she had a (very unusual) dream that I was unfaithful. I explained what cops were. Now if I wear them as part of a mix she’ll almost invariably ask if I have them on.

Well you asked if I ever slept, I took a much needed nap :stuck_out_tongue:

Kitten is more the expert on the industrial strength. I got a bottle that Dolly sent me a while back and I still have a hard time working with it. I would say Bella, that your calculations are about right. 1 drop in 30ML of carrier is about all I need or can stand LOL.

Hit comparison to EOW. I like EOW better even though its weaker. Its easier to work with and dosnt smell bad after smelling the industrial stuff.
There is one other company get my cops from and they are a bit weaker then EOW even but once you know your dosage they are easy to use.

Its contagious

Tisha

I’ve read about industrial grade copulins from Kitten’s posts, but where in the world do you get them? :confused:

I threw my industrial cops out bout a week and a half ago! I was about to add a drop of it to a lotion and I finally got fed up with the acidy stank. Just opening the bottle toxifies a whole room for a whole day. :open_mouth: EoW is a plenty strong cops formula. Really, truly, trust me. (But if you just gotta try it, I can PM you the source.)