errrr... Hello from Norway.

Hi, I’m a 25 year old male from Norway. I’m here because I don’t have the ability to say the right things around women. I’m more the kind of guy who always says something stupid after I’ve said something smart, witty or meaningful in some way. Which makes me obsessive about not saying anything stupid the times I meet women that I actually like..
I usually meet the women I tend to like outside the dating context, like at work for example, or a friends friend that I would occassionaly meet.
I’m also a very shy guy. Not knowing what to say, or being afraid to open my mouth is some of the problems I strive with. I’m also kind of a head down person, that struggles to look other people in the eyes.
I’m looking for something that can make me appear more mature, yet more childish in a way of seeming happy and cheerful. I struggle with moodswings because of low self esteem with the ladies. I would like something that works on both young and elder women, up to 40. I would like to seem more mature, open, trustworthy, intelligent, sexually attractive, light minded, and generally more interesting. I know it’s not only the pheromones that counts, it’s also yourself, but I also know that with results, I will probably be able to dare for more.

Hope I will enjoy this place

Cheers, Benredik

Hi, I’m a 25 year old male from Norway. I’m here because I don’t have the ability to say the right things around women. I’m more the kind of guy who always says something stupid after I’ve said something smart, witty or meaningful in some way. Which makes me obsessive about not saying anything stupid the times I meet women that I actually like..
I usually meet the women I tend to like outside the dating context, like at work for example, or a friends friend that I would occassionaly meet.
I’m also a very shy guy. Not knowing what to say, or being afraid to open my mouth is some of the problems I strive with. I’m also kind of a head down person, that struggles to look other people in the eyes.
I’m looking for something that can make me appear more mature, yet more childish in a way of seeming happy and cheerful. I struggle with moodswings because of low self esteem with the ladies. I would like something that works on both young and elder women, up to 40. I would like to seem more mature, open, trustworthy, intelligent, sexually attractive, light minded, and generally more interesting. I know it’s not only the pheromones that counts, it’s also yourself, but I also know that with results, I will probably be able to dare for more.

Hope I will enjoy this place

Cheers, Benredik

Hey there Benredik,

Well, I think you got it right - pheromones won’t solve your problems. It would be nice if you could just put them on and have ladies flock to you. Probably not going to happen though.
As someone else on this forum said, they are more akin to a lubricant - they can really help things glide in the right direction, but you have to be the one to initiate them.

But, seeing how this is a pheromone discussion forum, I would recommend experimenting with social pheromones, such as Instant Shine and Instant Openness. They tend to create a pleasant/upbeat atmosphere around you, which leads to conversations. You still have to converse though! If saying things that you shouldn’t say is an issue or if you self-esteem gets in the way, I’m sure folks on this forum will recommend you some books/sites that you can read to improve that. Combine those with pheromones, and you will have ample experimenting grounds. As long as you have the courage to play around (and fail a number of times before you succeed), you’ll do well.

Hey ben,

If you aren’t very smooth with the ladies, depending on how fluent you are in English, I would recommend getting your ‘inner game’ together. Run a quick google search on David DeAngelo, he is a self help master that focuses on guys who are not quite where they need to be from a self image standpoint and he can help you become self confident and funny.

As for pheromones, I recently added this wonderful tool to my arsenal. I used Ammunition Instant Shine and Instant honesty as good starters. Ammo attracts attention from girls who might not otherwise notice you (it may also bring out a few closet gays… thats another story),

Instant shine makes you feel more confident and on top of things (it isn’t a catch all, you need to have some inner foundation, this is more like caffeine with more focused effects)

and Instant openness or instant honesty which really makes people come close to you and start talking. Once they are in, your cocktail of Ammo will attract and your instant shine will help you make bold and smooth decisions.

I hope this helped,

Rich S.

Hi!

Welcome to the forum, Ben Redik!

You are absolutely not the only one with this problem. :stuck_out_tongue:
I think you should get some Instant Shine. Also Instant Gentleman would be a good choice.
Last makes you look more mature and less shy too. Instant Shine makes you and people around you feel better.
Use Instant Honesty and Instant Openness too make you more ‘accessible’ and be a better conversation-partner.

I suggest you read the bootcamp in the Men’s category to understand how this all works!

Good luck and don’t feel shy to ask anything!

oooh on top of everyone’s suggestions, I heard CTTM was good

Using that, ppl will feel the absolute need to talk to you lol

You can get this alittle later, depending on how much you’r willing to spend.

hope that helps somewhat!

Hello Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

Sounds like you need a boost of confidence, Get some AMMO it attracts attention, sexy, creates interest and can boost your confidence levels .

I also suggest IO to create a more open chatty atmosphere.

If you have any questions just ask.

:smiley: Your GC will be in your email box in the next 24 to 48 hours :smiley:

Have fun

Tisha