I wanted to share an experience I’ve been having with my fallout mix of A314/P74/IH and sometimes TUTH and sex and wanted to see if others are having similar experiences. I have had some success with what I believe to be fallout with a few of women. The missing and wanting to spend time etc. but for various reasons haven’t been able to consummate the relationship but the women who have been exposed to this mix that I have had sex with have truly FALLEN OUT! I’m thinking that since the mix is bonding and since sex its self is bonding it increases the effects. When having sex the pheros smell permeate the room due to body temperature rising and really exuding the mix. Along with deep inhalations taking place during sex I think this contributes to making the mix even stronger.
Now I know what people might be thinking how do you get to the point of being sexual? It’s the chicken before the egg conundrum. All I know is that the fallout has been a lot harder on the women I had sex with. What I want to know is have others have the same experiences with having a mix on during sex having a greater impact on a woman than having sex without a mix on. All of this is theory and only my experience but would like to hear from others.
Personally I found the bonding/fallout stronger on someone exposed to a mix for a (variable) period before becoming fully sexual. Those with a previous sexual history have been more hit or miss - but I must say I’ve used fallout mixes more on new women than those already established.
I had a mini-fallout experience with A314+TUTH, unbuffered. In a fetish club, of all places. (The club was inside a warehouse building, in a slightly rough industrial area.)
I got there, and while the bouncers and the male attendees were very nice to me, effects on most women were a little flat. Perhaps it had more to do with me coming to a fetish club by myself, which most men don’t do, rather than a failing pheromone signature, but here’s what happened.
Part 1:
I found myself getting ghosted a lot, and getting friendly, no-physical-contact conversations at best. (According to the fetish protocol, you must verbalize your fetish before attempting it with a new partner.) One woman actually seemed bubbly and affectionate; she even let me take a swig of her whiskey. But having gotten rejected earlier, I was hesitant to try to kiss her, even though she’d have probably allowed it to happen.
Part 2:
I decided to cut my losses and leave. I headed over to a city bus stop that doubled as an Uber stand. I saw the woman I talked to earlier, standing here with her friend. She saw me too, and shouted “Kissing fetish!!!”, and pulled me into a hug. That’s when I decided to go big or go home, and kissed her. She responded very enthusiastically! A few minutes later, her friend turned me toward her, and kissed me too. At that point, I got brave enough to ask for a threesome kiss, but they said no. My Uber came shortly after.
I don’t know if it fits the official PheromoneTalk definition, but I’d classify it as a fallout. I though it was interesting that the woman who showed restraint inside the fetish club pretty much jumped my bones at an empty bus stop in a sketchy neighborhood. (That said, she was drunk.)
Thank you both of you for sharing your experiences. This is a new endeavor for me, so I appreciate the input from senior users.
Mobocaster, good to hear you more or less had the same experiences. So you’ve found stronger bonding and fallout if you delay becoming fully sexual? How long? Why do you believe that’s the case? Also, do you believe it works better with new women due to them having only being exposed to your mix and only knowing that phero imprint, whereas women you already know having to adjust to the change of your phero scent?
TheAttractor, that’s quite an experience. I’m curious as to why this had no affect at the fetish cub but at the bus stop.
The reason was probably me. In the fetish club, my results were falling flat. Nobody was hostile or even terse with me, but women, for the most part, were only giving me polite conversations. So by the time I met the friendly woman, I already got turned down enough times, that I didn’t feel confident enough to physically escalate after telling her about my kissing fetish. In retrospect, I’m sure she would have done it, especially considering that she was drunk.
By contrast, I felt more relaxed at the bus stop, having walked out of a place where I kept getting turned down and into the warm balmy night. Plus, the sudden full-body hug from that woman brought back my confidence. (Oxytocin playing a role there.) So once she was hugging me—and not just a friendly hug—going in for the kiss wasn’t a big stretch of imagination. In which case, I figured: “Why the hell not?” Which worked, apparently.
