Fashion photographer with a frisky wifey searching for the right mix !

Hello all!

Ah… Well, I am just about ready to place my order. Waiting for the gift certificate and then I am going to just go for it!

I have read quite a bit here on the forums, and I think I might have found my mix.

I am a good looking guy and have natural charm and charisma. I have an incredibly hot wife. We like to attract bi curious girls for fun and play. We do this regularly and I’d like to amp up my arsenal, so to speak. :slight_smile:

I do fashion photography, which has me interfacing with plenty of models. I am not looking to hit on the models so much as to create an aura of a sexy rapport which I hope will translate into better photos.

I also do artsy performances pieces that are somewhat of an occult nature, and I want to juice up my charisma in order to get my audience on the hook more. Pretty girls are usually my target.

Wifey is interested in using pheromones, but she wants to see how they work through my experimentation before she commits to trying them… In other words, I am the guinea pig, hehe!

So, I am thinking the two products I want to invest in is Ammunition and A314. This combo sounds like it would be the right mix.

I have great luck with women already, but I really want to increase the “lust” vector. I am completely blessed with a woman that loves to play (safely) as much as I do, and any edge we can get will be useful.

So, what are your thoughts? What considerations should I make? And, if you need any more information from me to help me choose the right product, please just ask! I hope I am providing enough info here. :slight_smile:

Thanks for your help! This community rocks.

Well with a user name like sigil tech I should hope so :slight_smile:

A314 is great for business applications and situations where you need status elevation. For performing it’s bang on the money. I don’t think it would be the best choice for getting gals to play with both you and wifey. Although some gals love the high status individual. I’d suggest along with Ammo, Instant female magic and Instant Honesty. IFM has a relaxing effect on women and Instant Honesty brings about candid conversation.

ifm is out, and probably will be for a while. just a heads up.

the socials (io and ih) are good. helps everyone open up. ammo should be good for your wife. as for the models, you can try some ishine for added charisma and just add your own sexy. as they have a work relationship with you, they may not totally get the ammo vibe.

Wow, thanks for such quick responses. :slight_smile:

Pheraoh, totally cool that you caught the reference. Unicursal hexagram, anyone? :stuck_out_tongue: So, my goal here is to relax the bi curious femmes and let wifey work her own magic? She rarely has any trouble with any target she chooses. She’s a natural!

Jay, that’s food for thought. Yeah, maybe Shine for a photo session, and then Ammo for the after party? I am incredibly professional in what I do and want to keep it business oriented, just trying to amp up the sexy vibe.

I mean, so far, I treat my models as goddesses. They get fed well, they are given an attendant for the day to get them anything from bottled water to food. We always have great music, good food, and a friendly vibe that usually gets great results… Maybe I am just wanting more more more! :slight_smile:

Ahh a Thelemite.

A314 might yield interesting results during a photo shoot in respect to models taking direction. You can always dose less than a drop if you’re worried about being too intimidating and you can also soften it up with Instant Shine & Instant openess.

LOL! Definitely not a Thelemite, but I am familiar with the technology. :wink:

I usually screen my models to determine if they are good at taking direction, but you are right… That’s an important factor in a successful shoot. I am really leaning towards A314 because of this. Thanks for the response, much appreciated. :slight_smile:

LOL, before you had me thinking “Abbey in Cefalu” kind of photoshoots :open_mouth::D.

No goats are harmed in the making of these photos. :stuck_out_tongue:

Nah, just good natured fun!

A314 for the photoshoots will bring professional results, and it just a sexy masculine pheromone that all women can appreciate.

Ammo if you want a frisky sexual vibe. I find it gets attention and holds it, which may be a real benefit in your photoshoots.

IH can build intimacy and get women to release their true desires to you.

That’s a great starting place for you. Scents and the sense of smell are used in initiations and rituals in many occult practices.

Yup, evolver, scents and smells are important in our spiritual practice. I really like your suggestion of IH. I haven’t really considered it much before, but it would probably fit in very well with my goals.

You want Panty Scorcher. Hands down. I’m a photographer also, and I have tested it in exactly that sort of situation. Go get the MX pack for it and play with a few sprays…

Barring that, I suggest a mix like this:

4-6 sprays CTTM2
4-6 sprays EOW dilution (2 drops EOW copulins to 30 mL of perfumer’s alcohol)
4-6 sprays Instant Shine
2 drops A314
1 spray TUTH 2.5 mcg

Or, if you want raw numbers and raw pheros, something like this:

7.5 mcg alpha nol
7.5 mcg beta nol
12.5 mcg TAA
2.5 mcg androstenone
5-7.5 mcg androsterone
4-6 sprays cops dilution
25 mcg P83
30 mcg P86 (for charisma)

These should definitely help you get what you are after. I created PS for myself, really… but occasionally I need a “sexy look” from a model, and it helps when it’s based on genuine arousal. This is aimed at bisexual girls… for heteros, wear 2-3 sprays of the cops mix max.

LOL! Thanks a ton! Glad to know you are in the same line of work. :smiley: So, have you had any models ever be put off by pheromones, or have it backfire?

I have only used pheromones around two of my models. One happens to have been my fiance though most of it.

The ex loves it when I wear A314 and Panty Scorcher, but not together. It’s hard to do a shoot when you’re being raped. I had to stop wearing pheromones around her.

The other was a girl who I was hired to shoot nude. The image was to be done in a horrible location… the room was cluttered and the ceiling was mint green… ugh. But I had to shoot her nude, without showing any naughty bits, and have her giving a “Come F Me” look to the camera. Since my “assistant” for the shoot was a dork who was trying to bang her, and was too beta to do anything but distract her during the shoot, I wore a mix similar to the one I suggested with instant products in it.

The poor girl was uncomfortable because of him… I had to send him out of the room to shoot… and she told me several times that I wasn’t her type, and to give me genuine emotion she’d have to imagine her ex… okay, whatever… well, by the end of the shoot, I was pleased with my results, and she was giving me CFM eyes for real. lol She was bisexual, by the way.

I avoid pheromones otherwise for shooting with models, because it tends to be an uncertainty whether it will cause too much arousal, or make me seem too intimidating, etc. Just easier to go without usually.

almost forgot… met a girl who struck me as model material one day not too long ago while I was at the beach and we did an impromptu test shoot there. I was wearing 3 spays PS. By the end of the shoot, she was seriously flustered from sexual arousal. I cut the shoot off when I saw that because I didn’t want anything to happen… but yeah.

I am thinking that pheromones might be great for initial contact with a non-model that looks like model material. Every now and then , I come across a girl with a great look. You never know if she can take direction, work well with the camera, etc. But perhaps pheromones might work to get a non-model to at least a test shoot.

I pack my Nikon with me everywhere I go… Sometimes just having the pro equipment seems to be lure enough. :slight_smile:

I keep my Canon with me at all times (except when I’m taking a break from photography). But it seems to intimidate people as much as anything else. They’re not used to seeing such a huge camera and flash. So I usually have it in the car, but not necessaily over my shoulder.

Initial contact is a good idea, provided you use the right mix. I suggest something that has comforting, status, and “fun” tones.

LOL… I went to a club once, (permission from the manager had been asked and received…)

Everyone was flashing pocket cameras and camera phones, but I was the one with pro gear. You are totally right, just the fact that it LOOKED pro was intimidating to some.

I love to shoot people with my Canon. I’ve always wanted to say that!

The 1D series do scare women, especially with a 70-200 2.8 or 24-70 2.8 and 580EX attached. A gripless 5DII or 40D/50D with a small prime are a lot easier to handle. I take my 5DII or 50D everywhere with me, even the friggen mall. I’ve been thinking about installing a mone emitter on the strap tho’…

If I am at an event, I usually use a small prime and I don’t yet have the massive additional battery pack. Alot of times I will just use the built in flash if I don’t want to bulk up or if I am not interested in getting the best shots.

But, really, I am not after the girls that get intimidated by the camera. If it intimidates them, then I am not interested anyway. If I am going for quality, I will gear up. :smiley:

If you think a Nikon or Cannon would intimidate, try walking in with a Hasselblad.:eek:

I also was a photographer in the 70’s. Not fashion, military, assigned to the President (unfortunately Nixon :angry:).