So here’;s my initial report.
My Base - cops, alphanol, and TAL - 3 sprays misted P93 - 12.5 x 4 around the neck area.
I really paid attention tonight to see what would happen on top of the mix. I was around men the entire night, so unfortunately no women to report on. But all the guys were in a great mood, and almost exuberant. Very huggy and touchy and happy to see me, and very chatty and jokey as well. The interesting thing is that both TAL responders and non-responders acted the same - which is interesting because normally the non-responders clam right up when I’m wearing TAL and having a conversation is like pulling teeth. Lots of smiles. and one guy went a bit gaga tonight. Normally he’s flirty and affectionate - tonight he was full-force.
So I would say that it certainly adds feel-good exuberance to the mix, for men as well as women and I like that it counteracts the awkwardness the more reticent types feel when I’m wearing TAL. I think I might have to make it part of the standard mix. I’ll try it again tomorrow and report back. there may be some women on the scene then.
Thanks for the feedback/testing Nunya! Interesting that you wore such a high dose (50 mcg) and the guys seemed almost exuberant. The point about the guys who were TAL non-responders acting friendlier matches the experience of a few guys in that P93 is ‘useful at turning an Alpha/High Status phero signature into a more likable Alpha/High Status signature’.
In your testing with women (should you bump into a few), I would be interested in knowing if P93 affects them differently depending on things like race and age. Perhaps lower dosages are more suitable for younger women and higher dosages for older ones? Also is P93 (at a high dose like 50 mcg for example) for you almost Instant Female Magic/Androstadienone-like in the mood lift it gives YOU? I wonder if these mood brightening effects are the same for all or most women…
I have put a summary list of all of P93’s effects on PheroQuirk’s spreadsheet at: Google Docs - Mix Guide (see below for pasted copy). Since you are the P93 queen , is there any point you think should be added or don’t entirely agree with?
· mysterious ‘Instant Female Magic-like’ closeness effects on women with a slightly more sexual/pronounced edge (toilofday, Sigma);
· has an uplifting, stress-reducing quality to it (a sense of well-being) particularly on women which can help them through a tough time and also helps them enjoy a wearer’s presence more (Nunya, Jasmin, vkat, toilofday, Sigma);
· useful at turning an Alpha/High Status phero signature into a more likable Alpha/High Status signature (toilofday, Gone with the Wind);
· can put people into a ‘no fuss, chilled out, task focused’ mindset (MHarris, Nunya, DJigit);
· this ‘no fuss, chilled out, task focused’ mindset can lead to a loss of patience of trivial things (MHarris, Sunny, tacitus);
· has an element of unapproachability about it which is possibly related to a high status/respect signal (toilofday, Nunya, steveo, tacitus);
· this unapproachability can be helped by adding ‘friendlier’ pheromones to it (toilofday);
· has a personal space reduction effect (toilofday, pheroasian, Sigma);
· moments of male bonding/sharing of revealing personal information (toilofday, nbully79);
· Creates an ‘I get you vibe’ - a general understanding of who a person is without really knowing them at all (toilofday);
· general friendliness from people (vkat, Nunya, nbully79);
· can help to get people to do unsolicited things for the wearer/bend to wearer’s desires (vkat, Nunya); and
· useful for sex/after-sex bonding (Sigma, tacitus, nbully79).
nbully, I don’t know about P93 and Androstanone - it could be but why did it take so long for Androtics to bring out such a potential candidate pheromone (why wouldn’t it have been in the first batch of putatives). I don’t really want to ‘discover/reveal’ the chemical names of the putatives anyway. If they are discovered, more and more companies will just use these molecules (making them cheaply in China). The end result is that Androtics will have to increase their prices for their pheromones (which are all American-made) and we won’t have access to these putatives for $15 a pop anymore.
Nunya, perhaps the loss of patience for trivial things effect only occurs in some men and not women since women may be getting better moodlifting effects from P93.
Below is where I got the unapproachability bit - I think you were agreeing with everyone in that thread making that point (Jasmin, toilofday, and steveo).
Don’t worry if you can’t expose many women to P93 just do the best you can with whoever and report back. There’s no pressure…
Me, Me and P93
Nunya (March 30, 2007):
"hmm..i can see toils point on approachability. As many compliments as I got (even from one strange girl who stopped her rather intense cell conversation to throw one to me) it didn’t promote chattiness. Not like P74 yesterday. Lots of smiley interaction tho. Now that i think about it, one of my super-talkative coworkers, came directly to my cube, asked what smelled like incense, sniffed my arm, decided it wasn’t me, and then disappeared as quickly as he came. usually he’ll stop and bs for a while.
So yeah - I think i’ll concur with the high status thing."
ah…thanks visionary. yeah - That was in a totally different environment (work). Socially it was very chatty, at least last night. Well tonight as well, but I was a bit too low energy to really carry on conversations very well.
, is there any point you think should be added or don’t entirely agree with?