FourFiveOne's Journal

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
1

My first order of mones arrived yesterday and today the experiment begins.

Baseline:
I’ve spent the last week really paying attention to how people react to me socially, and where my strengths and weaknesses are. I’m a good storyteller, empathic and can build strong rapport with anyone I have an in-depth conversation with. I’m not very good at starting conversations with new people unless I have a specific reason to. If people who are a little socially awkward start conversations with me then often they fizzle out quickly because neither of us is putting in the energy to keep them going.

Toolkit:
I’ve got the newbie kit, including P102, so I’ve got IShine, IO, IH, Ammo, TUTH, A314, IG, IJ to play with.

Goals:
My most immediate goal is to get a feel for how the different mones work for me, and what I can and can’t do with them; to start to master the available tools.
Beyond that I want to improve my ability to talk to anybody about anything, project a more social vibe, improve my leadership abilities and add an undertone of sexiness to both my Salsa dancing and my everyday life.

Next Step
Today I’m going to wear 1 spray of IO to work. As well as normal interactions with co-workers I’ll put myself in as many extra social situations as I can while still doing my job.

2

Definitely saw some effects from the IO today.

On the way into work I had a slightly elevated mood, although this could have just been anticipation. Very quickly found myself chatting with a colleague. She’s somebody I would normally talk to, but generally only a few sentences as we passed. Today the conversation was at least twice as long as it usually is, and it seemed to flow better.

Later on another colleague popped into my office with a quick question and ended up inviting me up to have coffee with a few other people. None of them were people I normally talk to much, but the conversation was quickly flowing, and I was taking part a lot more than I usually would.

At lunch time there were only a couple of people in the common room, both of whom I know reasonably well. When I walked in they were talking to each other and I went and sat near them. They were in mid conversation when I arrived, but as soon as I sat down, they seemed to be directing every comment to me through their eye contact and body language. I joined in and the conversation really flowed, more in the way I’d expect it to with friends than with people I work with.

I went food shopping after work and the cashier was unusually chatty with me as well. She was actually kind of irritating, and it really sounded like she was speaking her mind rather than being professional.

So, I had noticeable effects from 1 spray without seeing anything too extreme. A moderate boost in my enthusiasm for starting conversations and a moderate boost in other people’s reactions. I’ll definitely experiment with larger amounts in the future, but this level is well worth having on its own.

An added bonus is that I really like the smell of IO.

3

I went with one spray of IO again today, and saw very similar effects. Starting conversations was easier, other people started conversations with me more, and things flowed easily even when I wasn’t at my most eloquent.

Normally when I’m tired (and I was incredibly tired today) I tend to avoid social situations a bit. Today I found myself wanting to interact a lot more. That might have been the IO itself, or just the fact that I knew I was wearing it.

4

I went out to Salsa last night wearing one spray of ammo. The effects weren’t huge, but I noticed four differences.

The most obvious was that I felt very confident and masculine. Very comfortable with the one or two slightly bitchy women in the Salsa scene, very comfortable talking to new people and dealing with guys who were trying to act “alpha” by misbehaving.

The next thing I noticed was that other guys were reacting a bit differently to me. A friend who normally acts very high status was acting as though he wanted my approval at times. A couple of fairly shy guys who I know seemed very wary around me. And, most noticeably, a majorly arrogant guy who has an issue with me backed down the first time he tried to mess with me, and then avoided me for the rest of the night.

I spotted a number of women checking me out, and got some very good reactions when talking and dancing. This isn’t too unusual, but there was definitely more of it than I’d expect on any given night.

Finally, I noticed slightly exaggerated negative reactions from some women. One of the curious things about Salsa is that it seems to attract a minority of women that don’t really like dancing. They seem to like the idea of being dancers, but don’t actually enjoy their dancing, either through nervousness about how well they dance or not being comfortable dancing sensually with men. I always make an effort to dance with a few of these women, although they tend not to be much fun to dance with. Last night I danced with two women that are firmly in that category. They both seemed more nervous and uncomfortable then they usually are.

Even stranger, one of these two women reacted very well to me after the dance, despite reacted fairly badly during it. My guess is that she saw my dancing as sexier than usual, and felt that she couldn’t match it.

5

I went with one spray of IH today. The effects were less obvious than with IO, but still noticeable. Conversations seemed to take a little bit more effort from me to initiate, but flowed even better than with IO. I also noticed that I felt very upbeat and happy.

Around lunchtime I had an interesting experience. An aggressive street beggar tried to intimidate me into giving him money. He put himself deep into my personal space (with his face a couple of inches from mine) before asking for money. This didn’t bother me at all. I stayed happy and noticed what he was trying to do with his body language with a fascinated detachment. I had a brief conversation with him where I assured him that I wouldn’t be giving him any money and then he left, looking slightly uncomfortable. Afterwards I felt fine; there was no adrenaline rush or feelings of anger. Very unusual and very cool.

6

Haha sweet, glad to see you out there experimenting! There’s actually a format to report with as well, if you weren’t aware. It just helps to make sure all the important info is there. Here, I just copied and pasted it from the forums. :slight_smile: I usually write experiences before and after as well, but feel free to do as you please, just make sure all that info is in there if you decide to write it like a story. What freebies have you gotten? Any putuatives yet?!

Product name,scent and strength:

Application dosage and locations:

Environment tested in:

Self effects:

Effects to others:

Duration of effects:

Effects from mixing with other products:

Range:

Time exposure:

7

Thanks for that. I was covering some of these but I hadn’t thought to record the range, time exposure or environments. In my head they were obvious because I was there, but the reader wasn’t.

At the moment I feel I’m gathering more qualitative data, so the narrative writing style fits quite well. I’ll certainly try that format for particularly interesting experiences, like with the street beggar.

The putative I got with my order was P102 and I’m planning to test it once I’ve tried a few more of the consumer products. I’ve totally avoided any reports on it, so hopefully it’ll be something really cool.

8

Yesterday I used one spray of IH (1X) to the left wrist for work again. The self effects were a general feeling of happiness and sociability that lasted for the entire 8 hour working day.

I noticed two main types of effect on others. The first was that when I started a conversation with co-workers (sitting down next to each other in the break room, or sitting at desks approx. 8 feet apart) the conversation would flow more than usual and I’d get a very friendly response. The other was that when someone came to talk to one of the people I share an office with they’d involve me in the conversation within a couple of sentences (again about a 6-8 feet distance).

Then, on the evening I was meeting up with two female friends to watch a film at one of their houses. One of the friends is an ex-girlfriend and the other is a long-term friend and I have no sexual interest in either of them. However, one of them responded in a very positive (non-sexual) way to Ammo when I wore it around her before going out to Salsa. So, I decided to go with one spray of Ammo (1X) to see if it had the same sort of effects with the two of them.

We spent the evening in my friend’s front room, watching a film and chatting. The self effects of the Ammo were increased confidence, feeling very masculine and fairly high energy. My two friends (who were sat on the same sofa as me for most of the evening) seemed more social than usual, laughed and joked more, and were very attentive to both what I was saying and whether I was having a good time. I noticed a few minor IOIs from both of them, but mostly it was just a very good social environment where I took a high status role. I suspect this had a lot to do with me not having any sexual intentions, and being congruent with the “sexy guy just being social with female friends” image. I was there just over 3 hours, and the effects were constant for that time.

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No problem, keep up the great work! :smiley:

10

Yesterday I went with one spray of A314 to my chest (b from a togo). The self effects were quite strong and very welcome. Confidence, wellbeing, and a gentle increase in focus.

On my way in to work I passed a group of colleagues going in the other direction. When I said hi, I noticed that the guy who I first made eye contact with (who usually acts very alpha) immediately looked down, and seemed less confident than usual. Immediately after this I was stopped by a woman who wanted directions. She seemed very friendly.

A short while later I was at work and about to take the lift. A very attractive woman was getting out of the lift, and as soon as we made eye contact she looked down, then back up again and smiled.

Over the course of the day I generally felt confident and outgoing, and found it easy to motivate myself to work on tasks I was unsure about. Then, later in the day (I’d been wearing A314 for about 5 hours at this point) I gave a presentation.

I was presenting to about 15 people in a small conference room, the nearest people were about 4 feet away from me. I’m normally a good presenter, but this presentation went at least one step better than I’d have expected it to. The audience treated me as though I had more authority than I’m used to and I found it very easy and natural to experiment with advanced presenting techniques that I’m working on incorporating into my skillset.

Also, it’s usual in that environment for one of two things to happen with questions and comments. Either the speaker will be constantly interrupted and the presentation becomes a debate in which the speaker takes a minor part, or the presentation will end with very little interruption and then one or two people will force themselves to ask minor questions just to be polite. My presentation got a couple of clarification questions, but nothing major. Then, at the end, I made it clear that I’d like to invite as many questions and as much discussion as possible and a large scale debate happened. The audience clearly had all those points to make, but had politely waited to be asked for them, something I’ve never seen happen before.

The final thing I noticed was that the only woman in the room decided very early on to move from her seat at the back of the room to one directly in front of me, and seemed to be constantly smiling at me.

I’m definitely going to play more with A314 and I suspect it’ll become a regular part of my presentation kit.

11

Yesterday I wore one spray of A314b on my chest again for work. Self effects were very much the same as the day before, plus they seemed to offset the effects of not having much sleep and keep me a lot more cheerful than I’d have expected to be.

Effects on other people were again roughly similar to the day before. I noticed that sometimes I was having to make slightly more effort to start conversations than I normally would, but once I was talking to a group of people, they were very much deferring to my opinions.

Today I’m on holiday and travelling to a music festival. I’m tempted to play with some mixes of products I’ve already tried, but I haven’t decided what yet.

12

The weekend was a bit of a whirlwind of music and partying and I had a play with a few different mones.

Friday Daytime

Arrived at my accommodation, put on one spray of IG (1X) and went to get registered for the festival. Self effects were extra confidence and sociability. Not exactly the feeling of confidence and power I’ve had with A314, more of a gentler friendlier confidence. Very enjoyable feeling.

The people doing the registration didn’t bother doing a couple of security checks with me that they were doing with everyone else. I could have very easily done something fraudulent if I’d wanted to, but it seemed like they saw me as trustworthy. That’s interesting.

Went to the train station to meet a female friend, and had a fun conversation over dinner. Quite often she can be very grumpy after a train journey, but she seemed upbeat and chatty. Don’t know if this was coincidence or the IG. The staff at the place we ate were very respectful as well.

Friday Evening
Didn’t wash the IG off so there might have been some effect left over (put it on at 2:30pm, evening started at 7pm and went on until 1am). Added one spray of Ammo (1X).

Generally felt happy, confident and high energy over the night. Getting plenty of eye contact and smiles from women. Spent most of the evening watching the bands, dancing to DJed music between sets and talking to my friend. Didn’t interact a lot with other people, but mainly because I was enjoying myself so much with the bands and dancing.

Saturday Daytime
Decided to try my first combo. One spray of A314 (b from a togo) and one spray of IH (1X). Noticed quite a few good effects from this combo.

Conversation with my friend was very deep. She seemed more interested in spending time with me than anything else, and we were really connecting on a deep level. She’s been a friend for years, and we were in a fairly serious relationship for a while, so suddenly seeing this deeper level of connection was unusual.

People were making an effort to get out of my way in crowds a lot. Several people apologised for getting in my way in situations where everyone was generally pushing their way through.

The waitress who took our order for lunch was very friendly, slightly flirty with me and kept coming back to our table to check if we needed anything else.

Saturday Evening
Didn’t wash off the A314 or IH (put them on about 10:30am and the evening was 6pm until 1am). Added one spray of Instant Shine (1X) and one spray of TUTH (1X).

Very soon after we’d set off from our accommodation to the venue, my friend got rather flustered and bitchy. She’d forgotten to get something out of her room and had now decided she needed it. We were early anyway, so I suggested having a walk back, but she started getting agitated and making out that she was ruining my night.

This is something that she has a history of doing, getting fixated on some minor mistake and blowing it up into a disaster, but I hadn’t seen any of it form her up until this point during the weekend. Usually it’s very hard to calm her down from this type of thing, but I was firm with her, and told her that going back to the accommodation was fine, but her behaviour wasn’t. Surprisingly, she calmed down very quickly and everything was good again.

We got to the venue and grabbed some food there before the first band. Two women (mid 20s, caucasian, attractive) came and sat at our table and seemed very eager to start a conversation with us. After about 15 seconds of chatting, one of them (short brunette) asked if we were a couple, and when I said no, the other one (tall redhead) became very suggestive.

In between watching bands and dancing, I had several more conversations with these two women. Every time the redhead seemed to be trying really hard to get my attention, while the brunette was generally friendly. On one occasion another guy came over to try and talk to the redhead and she very quickly got rid of him before turning back to me.

Near the end of the night a group of 5 people (men and women) came over to tell me that I’m an amazing dancer. Now, I am a good dancer (trained as well as lots of experience dancing in clubs) and there weren’t a lot of people dancing between bands, but it still seemed a bit unusual.

Sunday Daytime
Wore 2 sprays of A314 (b from a togo) and 2 sprays of IH. The self effects were very nice, a combination of the powerful feeling I get with A314 and a nice calm relaxed friendliness.

My friend seemed to want to do everything with me, and we had some wonderful conversations. They weren’t always totally positive (quite a bit of reminiscing about how things had changed in the area over the last 20 years on my part at times) but they were enjoyable with really deep connection.

People in shops were very helpful and friendly, as were waiting staff.

The main conclusions I came to over the weekend were:

IG is definitely something to experiment more with. It’s similar to A314 in some ways, but different enough that changing between the two for subtly different effects is a possibility.

Either TUTH or instant shine (or possibly the combo) got women to approach me. I should definitely play with both of these more.

A314 and IH is a combination that really suits me. 1 of each seems to get me good effects, but 2 of each takes it even further. I can see me wearing this combo a lot in the future.

Experimenting with IG and IH combos, and higher amounts of A314/IH could be useful.

13

Another interesting test of a combo.

I had an important meeting at work, and then I was going on to a meal with friends then Salsa. Immediately before the meeting I put on 2 sprays of A314 (b from a togo) on my chest and 2 sprays of IH (1X) on my wrists. The meeting consisted of me and two co-workers (one of them my current line manager) in a small office.

The main part of the meeting went smoothly with me feeling confident, making my points well, and generally getting a good response from my two co-workers. Then we got to the more difficult part. I needed to make it clear to my line manager that he’d made a big mistake on a piece of work we’d done together. This mistake has the potential to make us both look bad to several important people both in and outside the organisation. Even worse, the mistake is part of a pattern of similar mistakes that he makes due to a combination of carelessness and trying to make claims that he’d like to be true without checking whether they are or not.

Not only did I explain the mistake clearly and get full acknowledgement that it needed to be corrected, I also noticed that my line manager was visibly shaking by the end of the meeting. I wasn’t aggressive at all, and the tone stayed friendly, but it seemed that he’d finally started to understand the seriousness of what he’s been doing. In the past when I’ve tried to bring up this issue he’s always argued that I don’t understand the issues involved very well, but this time I really seemed to have got through to him.

Three hours later, just before I left to go and meet my friends I added one spray of IS (1X) to my wrist and one spray of TUTH (1X) to my chest.

The meal went well, with lots of good conversation, and everyone seeming a bit more high energy and happy than usual. One friend asked me extensively for my opinion on whether she should do something important in her career. I gave her some general advice, but she seemed to pretty much want me to tell her what to do. That hasn’t happened before.

Then, we went on to Salsa. I normally expect to have a good night, with plenty of sensual dancing. This was a level above though at times. One of the most memorable occurrences was a woman (mid 30s to early 40s I would guess) who seemed to want to try and rub herself against me at every opportunity. She’s a very good dancer and doesn’t normally dance like that at all, but at times she seemed to forget what she was doing and try and get as much body contact with me as she could.

The most obvious hit during the whole night was on the way home. I was walking through the street when I saw two women (one blonde, one brunette, early 20s, model looks, dressed up for a night on the town) walking slowly in the same direction as me. They were a little ahead of me, but walking slower and guys walking in the other direction were trying to attract their attention and getting shot down with dismissive responses.

As I caught up to them, the blonde said something to me, and I responded in a friendly manner. She seemed interested and we got chatting a bit as we were walking. Meanwhile, other guys were hitting on both girls and still getting shot down. Both women tried to persuade me to come and have a drink with them, something which I didn’t want to do, because I was ready for bed after a night of salsa and I really dislike the nightclub they were heading to.

I mentioned I’d just left Salsa, and the blonde started asking how it was danced, taking hold of my hands. I pulled her in to a close dance position, and she laid her head on my shoulder with a look of contentment on her face, and just stayed there for 10 seconds until I gently pushed her away. We continued talking until we got near to the nightclub (which was on my way home). We had to cross two roads before it, and halfway across the first one the blonde decided she was having trouble with her heels on the road surface and needed me to “help” her. She wrapped her arm around my shoulder, and I put mine around her waist. The road was slightly rough, but she was obviously making up how difficult it was to walk on it.

Again, she laid her head on my shoulder a bit, and as we got over the road, the brunette started to complain that she was feeling left out, and put her arm round my shoulder from the other side. I wrapped my other arm around her waist and we all chatted a bit as we reached the nightclub.

Both women were asking me to come and have a drink with them, but I said I wanted to get home and go to bed. The blonde kissed me on the cheek and then briefly leaned across me to kiss the brunette on the lips,before asking me if that had changed my mind. I just smiled and said it was tempting, but I wanted to get home and go to bed. I unwrapped myself from both girls and they continued trying to persuade me to come into the nightclub with them, saying it wouldn’t be as much fun without me. I sympathised, but told them to have a good night, as I was going home. We said our goodbyes and as I walked away I noticed almost every guy in the queue for the nightclub staring at me, probably wondering who the hell I was to have the sort of girls they’d gone out to meet so desperate for my company.

As I walked home I felt like I’d had a little taste of what it’s like to be a rockstar or a famous actor.

14

The last few days I’ve been playing with P102 and here are my findings so far:

Product name,scent and strength: P102 5mg standard scent

Application dosage and locations: 1 spray to the next

Environment tested in: Friend’s house, gym, office

Self effects: Slightly increased focus. Elevated mood. Highly motivated. Very sociable.

Effects to others: People around me seem happier. Conversations flow a little bit more easily.

Duration of effects: I was still noticing these effects up to 7 hours after application.

Effects from mixing with other products: Not tried yet.

Range: All interactions with other people were at normal conversational distance.

Time exposure: I was definitely noticing effects on other people after a couple of minutes of conversation. I’m not sure I would notice these effects any quicker than that though, so the exposure to get the effects could be a lot less.

15

Friday night I went out for a meal with friends then on to Salsa. I was wearing the following combo: A314 2 sprays to the chest (b from a togo) IH (1X) 2 sprays to the wrist, TUTH (1X) 1 spray to the chest, IShine (1X) 2 sprays to the wrist.

Self effects were pretty good. I felt masculine, strong, confident, social and happy.

At the meal I noticed a number of effects. Everyone was more chatty than usual. Conversations were deeper. Everyone seemed to be looking to me as the leader. The staff at the restaurant gave us a lot of attention and treated us very well, and whenever they had to come over to the table, they always seemed to want to be near me. Also, two of the people at the meal are a couple and they couldn’t keep their hands off each other. They’ve both been friends of mine for a long time, and this is very out of character for them. I don’t think I’ve ever seen them give any public display of affection for each other beyond a quick hug before. Very interesting.

Salsa was also great. This type of combo really seems to amplify the quality of a good dance. I know how to connect deeply and powerfully on the dance floor anyway, but I seem to regularly take things up a notch since I’ve started wearing theses sorts of combos.

I also met a lady who’s recently started working with me, who I didn’t realise is actually a very good dancer. As well as a couple of excellent dances we had a big discussion about Salsa in the area, and she’s planning on coming to a lot of the other nights I go to. Very pleasant interaction, and hopefully another very fun dancer who’ll I’ll see around.

16

I tested a higher amount of P102 and here were the results:

Product name,scent and strength: P102 5mg standard scent

Application dosage and locations: 2 sprays to the neck

Environment tested in: Friend’s house, gym

Self effects: Increased focus. Elevated mood. Ridiculously chatty. Couldn’t stop talking.

Effects to others: People around me seem happier. Conversations flow a lot more easily.

**Duration of effects:**Effects were strongest for 5 hours, but I still noticed some effects up to 7.

Effects from mixing with other products: Not tried yet.

Range: All interactions with other people were at normal conversational distance.

Time exposure: I was noticing effects pretty much instantly.

Notes: I think 2 sprays is a bit much for me in most situations (although that could be different when mixed with other mones). I was having very enjoyable conversations with people, and everything flowed beautifully, but they went on forever. When I was at the gym the workout seemed really enjoyable and easy, but every time I took a rest I’d end up talking to someone for way longer than I was supposed to rest.

For me, two sprays of P102 is for when I want to spend hours in conversation about anything and everything.

Also noticed at my friend’s house that his cats seem to want to be around me a lot when I’m wearing it.

17

Product name,scent and strength: P102 5mg standard scent, IG (togo)

Application dosage and locations: 1 spray to the neck of each

Environment tested in: Office

Self effects: Increased focus. Slightly elevated mood. Colours seem brighter.

Effects to others: People around me seem happier. Conversations flow more easily. People want to talk to me.

Duration of effects: Noticed effects up to 7 hours.

Range: All interactions with other people were at normal conversational distance.

Time exposure: I was noticing effects pretty much instantly.

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Product name,scent and strength: P102 5mg standard scent, A314 (b from a togo)

Application dosage and locations: 1 spray to the neck of each

Environment tested in: Office

Self effects: Increased focus. Slightly elevated mood. Colours seem brighter. Feel more powerful and confident.

Effects to others: People around me seem happier. Conversations flow more easily. All of the respect from A314, but with more warmth.

Duration of effects: Noticed effects up to 7 hours.

Range: All interactions with other people were at normal conversational distance.

Time exposure: I was noticing effects pretty much instantly.