Well as of right now I’ve only listened to the first module, but from the man who created the entire seduction community, its another example of really brilliant stuff. Regardless of what you might think of Ross J, you will have to admit to yourself he has his shit together.
I’ve been a fan of his stuff for a while and have just about all of it. Of course reading a script to get a girl to give you a BJ has never been my thing and yeah a bit creepy, but Ross has so much more to offer than that. Really a great way to learn why and how NLP works.
I recommend this for anyone looking into the seduction community. It’s FREE and valuable. Personally I think you can save your money learn the basics here. Just don’t let Ross’ bitterness towards those who stole from him sway your opinion of him. Overall a good guy looking out for the better good.
I’m just waiting for the women’s version of this.
*Cue the “the women’s version of speed seduction is ‘hi’ or ‘I’m so drunk!’” comments 
Bump, cause it went to page two.
haha that made me laugh. I thought Ross had his own little pheromone brand?
Anyway Steve, thanks for the link. I’m just watching the first module now and it seems really good. Ross seems much more pleasent that the thigns I’ve read about him.
Ross has helped me get some more than anybody else on this planet. More than money, clothes and whatever else. His stuff is good but Richard Bandler the father of NLP has some great stuff too. Read his book, “Get the Life That You Want.” This stuff is not for lazy people.
Cool, thanks! Downloaded for future reference…
I’m reading it for the second time around. Great work, and yeah if you want lasting change you have to work for it.
I’m actually going to get trained as a licensed NLP practitioner next week by Bandler himself. I’m very excited to put it mildly.
no freaking way. what’s he like? congrats.
Yeah I’m excited. I’ll let you know what he’s like after I meet him 
Looks like I’m going to have a friend from the forum with me this weekend.
no kidding, who? female??? we want the dirt. 
Nope! I’m afraid it’ll be little ol’ me, not a female at all. But since when has that stopped Steve before? I’m sure he’ll walk by one in the lobby and have her swept off her feet in no time.
Oh, and sorry i was so distracted earlier when you called, Steve! My dad had come up to have dinner with me and we had just arrived at the restaurant. If it’s not too late, i wooould love to try out some Raw Power, if you happen to have any laying around with you. 
RJ is eccentric as fuck, but overall puts out some OK stuff. Back in the early days when I was first coming onto the scene his products were scattered and didn’t seem like they had a flow or direction. Overall this seems like a solid program and its free.
Now I personally wouldn’t spend any cash on learning NLP for other than what its for. In its basic form it can have life altering impacts on all areas of your life, including dating, but learning it for dating alone is extremely limited and most likely wouldn’t get you that far. I’d think you’d come off as freaky/creepy as fuck if you started to do the BJ pattern on anyone.
NLP is dynamic as from what I’ve learned and use a bit. RJ’s stuff is all scripted. As with anything else in life, lessons should be used for all aspects of you life. Limiting beliefs such as learning nlp or hypnosis for seduction will only get you limited results.
It is not scripted. In the beginning it is easier to use script, but once you learn how to build patterns and get the feedback from women there is no need for that, and if you have half a brain you can suit it to any particular situation.
It getting me the pink stuff is considered limited then yes it is limited. Women telling you that you are different from other guys and wanting relationships is limited then yes it is limited. Did you ever try it?
Well said Castlerock.
I think you might have missed IncredulousPUA (freaky name BTW) point here. From what I read he’s not bashing Ross’ at all. He actually said its OK. I’m reading it as that if you are using Ross’ stuff only for the PUA aspect of it then you are potentially wasting your money since there is so much more to NLP than pick up. That would be like me going to Bandlers NLP training just for business, or Pick Up. There is so much more to NLP than just one avenue and should be used for everything in your life.
I’m a bit unsure how you came to the conclusion that IPUA is saying that Ross’ material is limited. Sorry there castle, but from your post its sounds as if you are limiting NLP to only obtaining pussy and that is a very limited avenue to an otherwise worldly application. I don’t believe that’s what you meant either… is it?
I also would say that I agree as far as the scripted material too. I actually heard Bandler himself say if you’re using a script your not doing NLP. I think what IPUA means, and of course I could be wrong and would hope he returns to clarify, is that just like TMM many people think you have to ONLY follow the routines and scripts and that is not the point of the material. Just like said yourself, its a guideline to help you get acclimated with material so you can create your own. There are MANY who read it and then automatically, because of ignorance, believe they have to follow the routines just like they are. I could go back in this very forum and quote many uninformed users who say they don’t like Mystery for that very reason.
How was the Richard Bandler seminar btw Steve? Im sure you mentioned it in a post somewhere. If so, I will try to find it, because I would hate for you to retype the same info just for me haha :o.
I did recommend a book by Bandler called Amazon.com: Get the Life You Want: The Secrets to Quick and Lasting Life Change with Neuro-Linguistic Programming: Richard Bandler: Books on this board many times. Does that mean I’m just all about just getting gunches with NLP? I also posted many links and videos about Bandler and his works. I didn’t do it just for the heck of it.
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