Ok so I got my order of MX203, P83 and Instant Honesty 4x. I ordered a 30ml bottle of p83 slightly scented with neorli. I payed an extra $7.00 for the 30ml bottle instead of togo but I now realise that it contains 5mcg per spray instead of the 12.5mcg the togo bottle contians, doh, my fault. After reading around I realise most people use 2 sprays of the togo p83 which would mean I would have to use 5 sprays of my slightly neroli scented p83 making me a french whore or what? Not to mention I was going to combine it with 3 MX203 (strong scent but I love it), 1 Shine and 1 Instant Honesty 4x. I’m gonna be well and trully stinky borderline totally unbearbale stinky, bollocks lol.
I know how you feel
I am so paranoid of feeling like I am going to smell really bad
I have similar products and use them as well. I know the neroli scented products do dry down pretty quickly so I usually put them on first and wait for them to dry down, then I usually put on MX203 last and usually wont use more then 3 sprays, that is going to smell the most because it is cologne strength. I love the smell of MX203, but it is strong.
how much of that stuff do you need though? your not that old so i cant understand why you would need to douse yourself like that, I’m fairly new to pheromones but the amount your using seems to be quite a lot
LOL! You…are…not…alone. 
Ya know, I always hated the smell of the woman you’d run into who reeked so badly of perfume that ya could smell her comin’ and for five minutes after she left the room. I AM NOW THAT WOMAN…ahem. 
Instead of “stink” I prefer to think of it as exuding an aroma of sensuality and power. 
I said prefer to think. Seriously as bad/strong as I think I smell NO ONE has ever told me I stink. Maybe they’re just too polite…but knowing my friends they’d just blurt out, “Jeeze, Bella, what the h*ll is that?..YOU STINK!” :o
Lol, i hate putting one too much neroli too, smells way to perfumy
Oh yeah i remember this post i just made
from here Clumsiness and accidents caused by pheromones :D (FEAT. spaceland and taa oil)
Well I ordered a large bottle that has less than half the amount of pheromones per spray as the togo bottle. People use about 25mcg of p83 with some people using double, triple that amount etc. With Instant Opennness my sweet spot is about 3-4 sprays and I just presumed that Instant Honesty would have the same sweet spot so I ordered it in 4x strength (to cut down on the neroli even though I love the smell and to save money.) My sweet spot for Instant Shine is pretty when mixing about 1 spray and people my age seem to be getting good results from 3 sprays of MX203 which is why I’m choosing to start at that amount.
that equlas 7 sprays worth of neroli and 3 sprays of cologne strength MX203. Come to think of it I’ve worn 8 sprays of Neroli before (4 shine, 4 openness combined with 1 A314.) so hopefully it will all dry down and I won’t smell TOOO strong. Do you think 7 combined neroli sprays and 3 colgone sprays of MX203 is scent overkill?
I’ve never smelled the stuff, but in my opinion, two sprays of any cologne is plenty
Yeah, I’m hoping that the cologne in the MX203 will drown out the big blob of neroli that is going to be surounding me and consuming everyones nose I come in contact with. In reality it will probably jsut be a huge stench of neroli and a strong cologne smell. I love neroli but 7 sprays but 3 cologne sprays of game I fear may be too much. 
theres no harm in experimenting
Denec, have yu recieved your “s” order yet?
While it may smell strong if you sniff the bottle, the real strength of the added neroli isn’t much more than shampoo or body wash. If you need to use 5 or more sprays to get the mcg’s you want, try doing it in stages. 2 or 3 sprays, then wait about fifteen minutes for drydown, and repeat in different application points.
-D4
Data’s right… if you sniff the bottle it smells strong, but in reality the neroli is pretty light- the human sense of smell is nonlinear and sometimes you think you are smelling more than what you are, especially when you smell it near the bottle or right after you spray it on you. . Actually it’s not pure neroli but it’s like a thin neroli + musk scent, and the smell is more like a hand soap than a fragrance because it’s very thin and doesn’t smell like it has alot of fixatives in the base. Game and Ammo are more developed scents and will be more noticeable and/or clash moreso. However, the Game and Ammo scents in Ammo and MX203 are still fairly weak as far as fragrances go, and I think that’s intentional, so you can get away with 2-4 sprays without smelling like you are somebody with absolutely no taste or class. With most real fragrances that are cologne or eau de toilette strength, 2 sprays is about the upper limit for good taste.
When you smell the Androtics neroli musk, OTOH, it’s more developed/diffused and pleasant and your nose picks up on it more and you notice the details more. If you were to smell a strong fragrance though in its concentrated state, your nose would be overloaded and you wouldn’t smell as much detail.
lol thanks for the reasurance. I sometimes find the neroli can be quite a strong smell. Like if I put 2 sprays on my neck I can smell it for about 20 mins and it seems quite strong at anything above 3 sprays but I guess it dries down after a while. I actually love the smell of the neroli most of the pheromones come in I was just worried that 7 sprays of neroli scent plus 3 sprays of the game scented MX203 would be to much for otehr people.
Colognes, pheros, and anything you spray on you are going to smell stronger to you than to others because you’re presumably spraying in the bathroom, which is a small area for the overspray to dissipate in, and you’re going to get some of it up your nose unless you pinch it while you spray.
In fact, to get a better idea of how strong the smell is, try spraying it on in a larger room while holding your nose for a few minutes. Go to a different room before you let go of your nose. You’ll see that it’s not so strong after all.
-D4