FUN night last night.

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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Last night I went out and decided I was going to make a concoction of sorts. I did 3 spray of mx302 and 1 drop to each wrist of A314 prior to my meeting. Was there for a good 2 hours, so when I left I reapplied and added some goodies.

1 shot of 1x shine to the hair (top of head)
2 shots of MX302 to the front of neck and 1 to back of hair
2 shots of Ammo to each wrist (one front and one back)
1 shot of TUTH to the chest
Covered with Curve Cologne

First and foremost, I had some pretty emboldening self effects. Felt like I was the shit and had a nice cocky swagger.

Got on the bus and there weren’t many people on. Scent was still fresh, noticed a look or 2 here and there, but nothing major for the hits.

Got to the club, mingled outside for a bit, and definitely caught more eye contact than I normally would have. Inside the club and downstairs to the music to go say hi to my friends and get my cloud moving in the room. DEFINITE hits all night.

Hit 1 - “S” is someone I know lightly through facebook and some other friends. Never been properly introduced. Walked by her a minute or 2 prior and then walked back by and introduced myself. Huge smile on her face, bubbly chatter, then I was off on my way. Walked by her a bit later and got a playful kino hit (I don’t have a lot of interaction with her but have seen her normal behaviors and this isn’t really in the norm). Was standing at the bar quite a bit later and was looking at her across the room while she was talking to a couple of my friends, good eye contact into other IOI 's (playing with her hair etc). I’m pretty sure this mix had a pretty profound impact on her that I was able to get multiple responses out of her.

Hit 2 - Girl that I had met upstairs with my friend comes outside to smoke a cigarette and makes a bee line towards me to chat. This is one of the first people who caught my phero sig and I saw her catching looks at me through the night and when in direct vicinity was standing closer to me than expected.

Random hits on the dancefloor… lots of eye contact (held) and smiles due to it. Was standing in the area a few fans were so I think I coated the room w/ my sig for a bit.

Hit 3 - “M” sees me come upstairs and comes over to say hi. She’s drunk (like usual) but closer interaction than normal when she’s drunk. Kinda DIHL look which is not common for her when she’s drunk or sober.

Most notable hit of the night = Hit 4 - “R” and I have a long history. Never dated, probably should have, always something gets in the way. I walk out and she’s REALLY nervous to see me for some reason (haven’t seen her in awhile). Talking with her and “A” for awhile and “R” mentions that I smell different. I take this as a hit because I know I smelled fantastic lol. Both “R” and “A” smell me, “A” comments on my ‘change of aroma’ and I tease both of them. “R” comments - normally you smell really good… but right now you smell good and I wanna “facilitates groaning noise”. I tease them for awhile w/ some jokes, playful banter, more kino than I’ve gotten from “R” in a long time. While standing there another friend “A2” is nearby so I playfully kino her and she turns around and gives me a giant hug with her face dead center in my chest. Totally takes a deeeeeeeeep breath, goes to pull away, and then does it again. “M” comes outside with a friend of ours and comes up and mentions how good I smell. Aftermath of “R” exposure = texts ( dirty ones) but she still wont come over haha. What a pain in the ass. At least I know I can get her all steamed up (moreso than usual) and make her go home and rethink her strategy for dealing with me.

There were a ton of missed opportunities for me, but I am not 100% comfortable with cold approaching in this environment. I frequent the place, but it’s not my home turf.

Tonight I’ll be out at my normal spot (the place I throw my shows at) and will be trying a similar mixture, possibly changing things out with some of the other instants I have. Due to the comfort level and the fact that I was opened last week by a random chick at my show, I think I’ll feel a lil more confidence. Will probably add a fresh drop of A314 with some under the nose for stronger self effects.

Duration of effects - 3+ hours

Range - 1’-7’+

Time of exposure - varies, 1-15 minutes depending on the person

Conclusive results - positive. It’s entertaining to watch the reactions of people especially when I don’t really plan on approaching. Too bad though, lots of missed opportunities last night.

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I don’t think that’s something you’re gonna worry about for long. If you’re going to see these people again, especially R, then I think it will be different. Like you say, R might rethink her strategy with you :wink:

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One additional hit that I forgot about… I was standing on the dancefloor and got a couple of decent IOI’s… but one blond chick came up next to me… wasn’t looking at me.. but was compelled to keep bumping into me (subconscious kino?) and there was space around still. Was playing with her hair VERY noticeably and taking some deeper breaths.. She moved towards the center of the dancefloor and was talking with a friend and I noticed all of these behaviors stopped.

That one was pretty dramatic on a subconscious level.. I’m sure she didn’t realize what was going on at all.

The effects of this stuff are so humorous to watch sometimes.

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Sounds like a great time! You had a lot of directions to go, it seems. I wouldn’t call them missed opportunities. Call it laying groundwork.

Nice report.

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laying groundwork has a fantastic ring to it.

this is all a cumulative learning and experiencing project so it fits a charm.

i’m just stoked to get outta the house tonight and see what happens. gonna be intersting

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Quick thing to notice, that’s alot of -none, no? MX302 has -none as one of it’s components (of 6 pheromones) and TUTH is also very -none and ammo also has some -none haha. Not to mention a bit of A314 and 3 sprays MX302 2 hours before. I generally don’t respray unless it’s been 4 hours.

I’d recommend to try MX302 either by itself or with something like A314 or IG. Otherwise you’re potentially mixing up way too many pheromones (don’t forget MX302 is a composition of 6 pheromones!). And if you do want to add Ammo or TUTH, try doing one or other (preferably Ammo). But doing Ammo and TUTH seems counter-productive in my opinion since they’re both -none based, with the exception of Ammo having extra social buffers.

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I totally see where you’re coming from. The thing is… the way I apply the TUTH is only for close encounters (chest under shirt only) and the ammo is only a single shot. From what I’ve read the -none content of the 302 is 5mcg… with 1 shot of tuth to the chest that’s 7.5… and a shot ammo which has 2.5 mcg of -none total… 10 mcg is low compared to a single shot of IJ (12.5 mcg per spray).

Also, I’m using the to-go’s which are about 87% of a standard spray… so realistically looking at 8.7 mcg of -none in that mix.

It worked last night.. and if the situation was different tonight, it would have been great also.

Right now I’m honestly just goofing around and trying out different things… but I know that ‘more is not better’ in this case. It’s just fun to push the limits for a short time and see what happens.

I’ve done solo tests of IG, IS, and IO at work already. I’ll likely be doing followup tests of all 3 of those in social situations. I have a bunch of other stuff to play with too… as well as mx301 in the mail which I’m planning on doing a comparison test between the 301 and 302 (by themselves and possibly with additional components to be added).

I’ve also done solo tests of A314 at work… and will continue to do these on a regular basis until I build the rapport I want at work.

That being said.. this weekend is the last goof off ‘play around’ weekend. I’m just trying to get the goofy shit outta my system so I can buckle down and start going through the motions with each separately and build my knowledge.

but for now.. it’s been fun haha

=)

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oh haha i gotcha. Just making sure :wink:

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Actually, I did some other reading and from what I’ve gathered, 302 doesn’t have any -none in it. 301 does… which is why people think it’s a bit more of a sexual/intimate mix as opposed to the 302 which has been reported to be sexual/social

=)

I’m definitely making sure I do things the right way.. there’s SO much information here to dig through and not enough hours in the day (even if I spend 2-3 hours at work on here haha).

I did read your write up about 301/302 and am very interested in trying it with the IG to see what it does with both the 301 and 302.

Thanks for the info and advice on things… I’m definitely not trying to OD on the -none, but that is definitely something I need to experience for myself so I know what it’s like. I’m thinking of grabbing IJ and giving myself 2-3 shots of it to the neck/wrists and going out. that would be a HEAVY -none dose and would probably scare off most people.. but who knows haha.

gosh I <3 this forum. So many people with all different kinds of experiences, who are willing and able to share said experiences for the betterment and help of others.

cheers!

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Actually read this post of mine:

There’s a confusion whether MX302 is actually .1b or .5b. From what Steve (the original creator of ICM mixes) told us the only difference between MX302 is one has a-nol and the other has b-nol. However, that would make MX302 .5b.

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hahaha.. i was JUST reading that. you got reps for that thread also… very detailed.. very concise. it has definitely spurred me to step things back a little when working with the 302… i’m going to play with it with the IG tomorrow night and MAYBE a shot of the IO or IH…

Steve mentioned in one of the 301/302 posts the exact formula for each. I’m trying to track it down as I saw it a bunch of times today haha.

Too much work.. will dig em up whenever I find them later.

Definitely excited to get the 301 soon though… will test each separately, against each other, and then combine the 2 and see what happens.

Will try the 302 w/ IG and maybe a shot of shine this weekend too. i got a feeliinngggg that this weekend’s gonna be a good one hahaha

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There yeah go =)

ALL Mixes:

ICM 0.25.05a
TAA 4 mcg per spray
Alpha Androstenol 5 mcg per spray
P93 3 mcg per spray
P74 5 mcg per spray
P83 5 mcg per spray

ICM 0.25.05b - MX302?
TAA 4 mcg per spray
Alpha Androstenol 5 mcg per spray
P93 3 mcg per spary
P74 5 mcg per spray
None 5 mcg per spray
TAC 5 mcg per spray

ICM 0.25.1a - MX301?
TAA 4 mcg per spray
Beta Androstenol 5 mcg per spray
P93 3 mcg per spary
P74 5 mcg per spray
None 5 mcg per spray
TAC 5 mcg per spray

ICM 0.25.1b
TAA 4 mcg per spray
Beta Androstenol 5 mcg per spray
P93 3 mcg per spray
P74 5 mcg per spray
P83 5 mcg per spray

By the way let us know how it goes, excited to hear your reports!

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Ok.. so last night I used a very similar mixture as Wednesday… just upped the Ammo to 2 shots each wrist and added IH to the inside of my right elbow.

full breakdown

2x Ammo L/R wrist
1x IH crook of R elbow
2x TUTH chest
1x A314 along jawline and under nose
2x shine hair
4x 302 (3 front of neck/throat, 1 back)
no cover

Applied 9pm

Self Effects - nervous energy, confidence, “swagger”

I headed out to catch the train to the city around 9:30’ish. Got up to the train station and onto the platform. Saw a cute asian female to the right around 20years old (college student). Walked over and stood around 5-6 feet away leaning against the wall. She looked at me right off the bat with no IOI. Time of initial exposure - 1-2 minutes. I noticed she started looking at me frequently. Started shifting her weight around and fidgeting quite a bit. Eye contact a few times.. didn’t approach. Train comes, get on the train. I walked in and was standing pretty close, still saw her looking at me repeatedly. Also got DIHL from an older black female (early 40’s guessing) and a younger spanish female (around 18) almost right when I walked into the train.

Transferred at next stop to another train. Cute asian girl standing slightly behind me to the right, I look over my shoulder and she’s looking at me almost puzzled (maybe confused that she cant stop looking at me?). Get on the next train, I head left and sit down. She had option to go right or left, followed me to the left and sat directly across the aisle from me. Noticed her looking at me a few times, also saw her looking at me in the reflection of the window.

Blond female gets on train and sits next to her obscuring view. Blond female is early 20’s, on train with luggage. First IOI came… 3-4 minutes in. Inquisitive look, half smile, and then looked away. I kept watching out of the corner of my eye and she kept checking me out.

Off the train… head to the club spot I do my Thursday show at (friend is hosting the night tonight) and the place is pretty much dead. No real good opportunities although did get some passing eye contact and other IOI’s on the sidewalk outside.

Left there around 1:30 to go get crepes. Lots of people at the crepes spot. I reapplied 1x ammo to R wrist, 1x IG to left wrist. I think the extra shot of ammo semi ghosted me. Maybe I was a little too drunk to notice any IOI’s. Possibly lost my congruency w/ the mix also.

All in all, good night. I really should have chatted up the asian chick when I had the chance. She was 100% my type, but I’m still not quite feeling the opening sequence. Maybe will get something like mx337 as a few folks (Snoopyace and others) had mentioned this gives you some pretty solid confidence. Also considering trying with mx329 (dancing joker’s mx) as Steve’s report of that one sounded quite promising also.

Can anyone suggest any of the p- or experimones that illicit lower inhibitions/increased confidence? I have some points and some money to throw around at the moment and would like to see if I can find something as an additive that would put me forward. The A314 at a single drop isn’t doing it for self effects, and I’m not 100% sure of my sweet spot with that yet so I don’t want to come across too high up the latter and make me unapproachable.

Tonight I’ll be going very simple… mx302 x 3 to the neck + 2-3x of IH to the wrists to see what happens… but not 100% sold on the IH. I’ll be going to a bar/restaurant first with some friends from work and some other folks, then off to another party with a completely different demographic.

Maybe I’ll just rock the mx302 to the bar and then refresh with another shot of it and maybe add something else like IH or Ammo.

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oh - I also got smart yesterday and picked up a faux leather pocket sized journal/diary type book so I can make notes in the field. This is why I was able to keep the details so clear from last night with times and range of exposure. DJ mentioned he did something similar and I thought it was a great idea… so thanks for the tip DJ.

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Read up on P83. It’s the ultimate inhibition lowerer and people report girls becoming very very touchy with it. Usually used at concentrations of 20-30 mcg, sometimes people report using at 50 mcg, and as low as 10 mcg.

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thanks for the tip on the p83. I’m wondering if that w/ the 301/302 would lead to some interesting experiences. it looks like the 83 was taken out of the other 2 test models and the -none put in. the -none + the p83 combined sounds like it would be more funnn

definitely going 302 solo tonight for the first wave. wish me luck!

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Yep, the other two have P83 but no -none. To be honest, P83 is best with -none. It allows the reservedness that girls tend to have towards personal space to move out =). I’ve tried it only once with this combination, and I got some very good reactions that I also put in my MX301 wow thread. However I do need to test it more with P83.

And let us know how it goes tonight!

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Simple and sweet -

9pm 3x mx302 (2 to front of neck/throat, 1 to back of neck)

some light self effects… chatty… decent vibing

10pm 1x mx302 split between wrists

Went out to a party… got some decent IOI and hits.. nothing major though. Was outside most of the night and it wasn’t super warm out. Definitely had some good conversations with various females.

Made it a point to take initiative and introduce myself to females when I had a chance.. maybe self effects or maybe just trying to work the pheros.

Around 1am I decided to refresh, but I went with 3x ammo (1 neck, 1 chest, 1 split between wrists). A few minutes later added 1 TUTH split between wrists.

Got really playful with a friend of mine “A”. This is the one who buried her face in my chest Wednesday and came back for 2nds. Lots of playful kino, she bit me a few times, etc. Noticed some more cuddly type effects on “L” a bit later in the night.

All in all was a good night… proud of myself for stepping things up and actually opening and just chatting w/ some of the chicks who showed subconscious IOI’s and some more conscious ones too.

Original plan was to start at the bar, but that didn’t work out. In retrospect, I kind of wish I did go to the bar, but I think I would have ended up drinking a lot more than I did and wouldn’t have been nearly as attentive.

Overall good night.

Testing will commence tomorrow during the day (at a work function) with JUST the mx302. I really like the socials it gets… I notice people being quite chatty and pretty into the conversation with me. Moreso than normal.

Cheers!

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Very simple and straightforward night tonight

2x mx301 to the throat/neck (one to each side) @ 10pm

Left for the club shortly thereafter and got up there around 10:30.

Club was kinda dead because it was so early, but it normally picks up around 11-11:30.

Was outside talking to my friend and “B” walked up and started talking to me. My friend had told me prior that she was interested, but really hadn’t shown me any indication of that. I’m pretty sure the 301 hit her pretty quick because she was hesitant about going in and was more content with standing outside talking to me. Lots of direct eye contact (held for awhile… she’s got pretty eyes) and lots of smiling while looking at me. Also bumped into me repeatedly. This was a great hit to start the night off with.

Didn’t have much interaction with her until a bit later, but I definitely noticed some positive looks and body language from a few females on the dancefloor. Also got a few major DIHL from the girl who was headlining the show (cute lil british dj).

Reapplied 2x 301 to the neck/throat around midnight.

Back to hanging outside and “B” came and chatted with me again. Close body positioning, lots of eye contact and smiling, made comments about some shows next week I’m playing at and mentioned that I should contact her about them to which I replied, “I don’t have you number”. She was happy to provide it and I sent a text so she knew it was my number. Her response a little bit later was to contact her if was trying to kick it n whatnot (holler if you wanna holler basically hahah). Very good close… not even trying to close either. (just remembered here saying something about leaving a comment on my myspace truth box about me being sexy… maybe the bnol content coming through?)

Pretty sure I got another good hit shortly after that, but I was lightly beaming from the prior hit. I know my confidence was up and I cracked a joke at “K” and opened a good convo. Lots of eye contact, big smiles, some playful banter, comments about how she’d be at the show I was playing next week. Didn’t try for a number… but probably could have.

While talking to her a cute brunette walked by and caught my eye and had some intense direct eye contact while she was walking by (I moved my head 20degrees, she keep hers moving to about 90 haha).

All in all a very good night with JUST the 301.

I’ll be in a totally different environment tomorrow night (21+ dubstep show) and will be deciding between a 302 test or a 301 test. So far GREAT results from the 301.

Didn’t make it to Manny’s Tap Room per Jesse’s suggestion, but I will be making it a point to drop in there within the next week to test something (301, 302, or p74).

mmmm time for bed.. gotta wake up at 8 to be to work by 9:30.

cheers!

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put a more clean and concise detailing report in my journal if anyone wants additional particulars.

very excited of my results last night. because I just got a shipment in, I’m having trouble deciding what to go with tonight!