"FYI" Focused Young Independant - Hello and Help

Hey everyone,

I am completely new to the pheromone scene, but not the internet. As a survivor of internet manipulation, I wanted to find a solid forum to really learn about pheromones and what they can do for me. In order to get the most from my experience I will be completely honest, the goal here is self-improvement after all.

About me (since your dieing to know)-

I’m 18, it wouldn’t take a whole lot of research to find that, just a slight glance to the left. I live in the beautiful state of Florida, and I have some characteristics that make me a great friend, but not always a great seducer. My standards for attraction towards girls is set pretty high, a girl has to be at least a 7.5+ in the face and average in the waist for me to even give her a second look. That isn’t a bad thing; but, from what I have read i must assume that my (as the natives call it) -none production isnt as high as others.

Since I was young my very laid back personality and tendancy towards video gaming (i’ve since broken the addiction due to time constraints, it feels good not to be a zombie anymore) made me somewhat pudgy. I was never obese, but there was definitely more to me than needed to be. I was never bad at sports, but I didn’t have that drive to push myself past my laziness, or in some cases face the rejection or embarrassment of loss. Over the course of highschool i maintained a fairly average build, took weight training and gained some muscle mass. Since my graduation however I have lost a noticable amount of weight and am improving my self-image (from a mirror standpoint).

I worked for three years in professional graphics design - a well paying learning experience with high demands and unrealistic time requirements, then I went on to small time sales positions that more suited a teenager with part time needs and school at hand, and presently I am a non-commissioned sales associate at a major computer retailer and am presently transitioning into Financial Analysis with a subsidiary of citigroup.

I say this as a lead in.

I am and always have been comfortable if not excited by the challenge of public speaking, on a smaller scale its fun to carry on a meaningful conversation with people that gets somewhere and leaves them with a high reguard for you. That being said I can easily build report with adults, seniors friends and girlfriends parents (I have never been ‘that boyfriend’ the parents hate and the girl sneaks around to date, its usually the parents love me and the girl fades). Part of my problem is, I never practiced very much interaction with girls when I was younger and I felt a barrier towards it. There was no natural interaction for me with girls I was attracted to and I would freeze when I saw someone in that category, or would act rediculous around them or just in some way unable to think of something intelligent to say. This led me to treat girls i was not physically attracted to in one manor (which usually attracted them) and girls I was attracted to in another (which never worked). I have no self esteem issues, and am generally a leader in my male and even male-female friend social groups. I’m the responsible one with 2 jobs and college, and usually plan or have a hand in planning outings.

Before I continue - In no way have do I want anything I have written to be taken for anything more than a factual self-description, it isn’t a platform for bragging or self-pity. In short, it is what it is, and it will serve to allow others to aide me in the best possible way.

So to re-cap and refocus, I have a good self-worth established. I have no problem talking to people (I am working on my abilities with girls). From a looks standpoint i’m comfortable with the way I am and the way I’m built. But that spark of attraction that would cause girls in my age bracket 17-24 to be preemptively attracted to me, is what I am looking for.

By the way am trying to use David DeAngelo’s arrogant humor technique (called cocky funny). You make jokes but make them on the people you are with, rag on them a bit, never being just a comedian, and never being a dick. (I have the persona down with my friends, I just need a way to turn the tables a bit).

I’m looking to attract and arouse girls - at college, in a mall, at local stores, house parties of average size, perhaps at work?.

I need a bang up pheromone set up that will work with me - for initial attraction (or even a 1 nighter) one for after I get their number and set up a minidate or date, and one for (hopefully) a short term or long term relation.

Also I would rather not spend a shi-t-on of money on a large variety.

One last question is, what is the deal with these commercial pheromones? Pheralure Nexus etc, why are they so prevalent and why exactly are these back alley mixes considered by everyone in the forum to be more effective?

Hello Rich and welcome to the forum.

I would recommend thr folloeing:

Ammo or Instant Gentelman for daily use. They give off slightly different vibes but the Instant Gentleman has no 'none in it and hence i tend to recommend it to younger guys.

I would also recommend Instant Shine and IO. Instant shine will help everyone feel happy to be around you. IO will help you with initial conversations.

I hope this helps some.

Welcome again and we are looking forward to hearing more from you.

Welcome to the forum.

Your assumption of low Androstenone production may not be correct. Most young guys produce quite a lot. Generally, they are better served with Androsterone and Androstenol products like Instant Gentleman, Instant Openness and Instant Honesty.

Androstenone is the most popular of pheromones, and is found in many of the commercial mixes touted on the internet. It definately has pheromone properties, but is only a small part of the pheromone world.

If you want to experiment at lower cost, buy the smaller to-go bottles (if available). IO and ih come in to-go bottles as well as full size.

Hi Rich and welcome.

I would go with Ammo to give that sexy guy spark for initial attraction, Instant Shine and/or Instant Honesty for Day 2’s and A314 or Instant Gentlemen for the short to long term relationships.

Ammo gives that sexy guy aura for the initial spark, Instant Shine can bolster that feelgood factor in being around you that you (hopefully) have left her with from the Day 1, Instant Honesty can enable her to feel that deeper connection with you and A314 and Instant Gentlemen can boost your value and set you up as a longer term prospect.

Oh and as to the diifference with the products here? Think of (a lot of) the others as processed junk food ready meals. There’s nothing but quality organic free range goodness here, an enticing basket of fresh pheromones. No back alley mixes, no sirree!

Hope that helps and good luck. :slight_smile:

Hi Rich,

The folks and the pheros here are really solid.

I’ve been using them for more than a year now. VERY high quality.

And the board, people are great. VERY helpful. Not perfect, cause, we’re still PEOPLE! lol!

Welcome and dive right in!

April

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome, I wasn’t expecting such a quick and precise response this early in the day. Tell me though, do some pheromones work better with certain ways of carrying myself? ie- i get ammo and instant shine, should I carry myself as cocky funny, quiet and self confident, fun and out there? I would hate to pull an oil/water deal confuse and repulse on my first outing.

Also, is it a much better deal to just purchase a normal size bottle? the price is around 1/4 that of a regular bottle, but what about the comparative volume?

Most of the Instant series products - to includ4e Ammo - can be worn with just about any other Instant series products for men. Ammo will certainly work well with Instant Shine, IO and IH. Instant Gentleman will do the same. I would not necessarily mix Ammo with Instant Gentleman.

I always get the 30 ml bottles as the price per spray works out much better. I also go with the 2X and 4X strengths where they have them as the price per spray also works out much better.

Finally read the thread on Congruence in the Lounge area. It discusses the idea of how to carry yourself while wearing pheromones. The big thing to remember is to be out thers and be social. These products give you an edge but they don’t do the work for you. You will have to interact with people in order to take advantage of wht they do for you.

should i prefer oil for certain products, or should i go with sprays all the way?

Hello Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

Only a few products are offered in oil form. A314, TAA, Dirty and Raw Power are the only oils. Oils diffuse slow and long but the hits are not always as strong. Spray products diffuse much faster and only last up to about 6 hours but they hits are stronger. I would start with the sprays and if you enjoy tose then get the oils.

If you have any questions just ask. We look forward to your participation.

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Have fun

Tisha

For me, the pheromones give me interesting ways to express my own personality. Why not see where they lead you?