Hi there,I’m new to the forum and Androtics - though have already purchased IS and IH in their lowest strengths - (the speed with which these shipped from the US to the UK is amazing by the way). I’m gay and therefore looking to use pheromones to further general and sexual attraction in this area and also in respects of a specific individual I have my eye on - as well as for their social benefits. I’ve read through some of the great info forum members have been kind enough to share - it’s really useful and detailed – for the newbie of course a lot to take in ! I’ve read up some of the discussion on the basic types of molecules,formulations and what they do,the concept of buffering and some of the individual molecules.
From what I’ve read so far it seems that the social formulations,IS,IH,IO etc are going to be generally useful with facilitating interactions and general attraction. I can already vouch for the power of IH even in its lowest strength - on a recent works night out my superiors were very talkative - and rather concerned the next day that they had told me too much - I had to give a lot of reassurance re my discretion - and the guy i am currently interested in was also very forthcoming indeed about himself – I hate to think what effect IH would have in higher strengths ! I did not notice much effect from IS but i imagine this serves more to polish the effect of other molecules. I notice that the main molecule for 173 ,IS and Ammo ( and I assume its variants MB & Summer Ammo) is TAA - which its self is said to raise male self esteem - is there any benefit to using TAA alone and would it weaken something such as Summer Ammo? I’ve also noticed that people have recommended beefing these up with say P75 and perhaps also TUTH;some forum members rightly observe that overt sexual signals can be less problematic in gay than heterosexual situations,the only exception to this I think is when dealing with closeted males. Any way there are some variables in gay attraction which may affect pheromone use as I see it -
1)There is a pole of attraction between alpha or apparently alpha masculinity on the one hand and beta masculinity or as an alternative effeminacy on the other. I’ve rarely seen alpha and alpha go together perhaps because the competitiveness between the two would be too great?
- Where I have seen alpha and more overtly feminine together I’ve also noted a very obvious and sometimes hyper sexuality in the more feminine of the two.
Where do pheromones fit in to this? If you were alpha and wanted to attract beta or more feminine males would MB be the best bet? Should more beta males try and beef up their image with more masculinising pheromones or use those more appropriate for women such as copulins etc? I have tried EOW by the way and found a) it sometimes produced an over the top friendly response in heterosexual male strangers and b) a negative response in those I knew and who already had some attraction for me. I would guess that using specifically female products could be confusing and counterproductive - if a guy i’m interested in really wants a woman perhaps a woman is what he better have for there is no way I can compete with a woman as a woman ! Myself I’m quite friendly and sociable if also somewhat cerebral at times, I think i already have something of the vibe IG gives so would using IG be useful to intensify this or would it rev up too much a quality already there? I’ve found in the past that i have often attracted quite closeted guys and this is partly because my presence is definitely not that overtly sexual and therefore non threatening but this also means I can very easily be friend zoned.The guy I’m interested in at work has a cross between and alpha and bad boy vibe - getting into fights with bar staff etc. Though attracted to this man almost instantly I initially assumed he was straight as he does always loudly say that he is - though has not been in a relationship for several years.However his constant flirting and touching me,his being very hot and over friendly and then cold and my discovery that his favourite book is a novel with a distinctly gay theme now makes me think otherwise.Presumably the social pheromones would amplify the attraction which is apparently there but what would be the best way to steer towards a more sexual attraction and getting a date so as to see if this could be taken further should he so wish?
I should be very grateful for any suggestions but am thankful already for the wealth of info already put out here ---- better start reading through those posts !
