Whats up Pheremone members? This is Geno and I appreciate all the replies from my first post.
the following pheremones are what I have in my arsenal 1. Instant openness 2.INstant Honesty 3. Shine
4. Instant Female Magic
I cant decide what to get next help!!!
thru my correspondence with another pheremone users I was informed that products such as Heavy ammunition and turn up the heat are both androstenone products (which can either be a good thing or bad thing)
Here’s a question When a woman is on her period which products will possibly gross her out? My understanding thru my correspondence is that androstenone which is found in turn up the heat and ammunition could possibly disgust a woman during her period (is that correct?) or did I misunderstand you (josef)
Also would anything in my current arsenal possibly gross out a woman during her period this is important for me to know because all my coworkers are women.
With that being said should I risk getting two androstenone products such as ammunition and turn up the heat? tell me guys is there an advantage to having both turn up the heat as well as ammunition?
What I really want guys is a pheremone or combination of pheremones to use when getting my haircut, my pedicure, or my regular bodywaxing (Iam a swimmer and biker) and let me tell you when getting your legs, chest waxed I would have plenty of room to apply different pheremones and it would serve as an excellent experiment as well LOL . I also want pheremones to help facilitate conversations with shy women I come across in my daily rhythm of life such as going to the grocery store, walking atthe park ect ect playing billards at the bar or even chilling out at the strip club. I myself Am kinda shy and dont do well with standoffish or shy women (two shy people dont make good conversations) Despite being quite if i detect a down to earth woman who isnt easily intimidated and Iam attracted to her I’ll sure as hell chat with her and go from there but if I detect a standoffish woman or an extremely feminine type I or them or either shut off (its hard to interpret) by no means am i virgin but I dont do particularly well with coy women or extremely feminine or phoney women types ( I am kinda drawn to curvacous black women, Iam a butt man for sure but I’ve been with plenty of white women as well (my penis doesnt discriminate and nor should yours LOL 
I would like to think of myself as a work in progress
Well guys what helps with standoffish women or shy women would come talk to me 2 be a good choice
You’ve seen my arsenal and you’ve read what difficulties I have I am myself only want to buy two out of these three heavy ammunition, turn up the heat or cttm 2
I value your opinion so hit me up or suggest something else not in my three choices
thanks
If you like mixing and being more advanced you could get TUTH and make your own ratio of an Ammunition-like product. CTTm2 is a combonation of Instant Openess and Instant Honesty I believe(Alpha-nol and Beta-nol) with fixatives. I can’t believe you don’t have A314 in your line-up. A314 is easily the top product here. Its great for everyday use and a great BAse to apply other products to make your own special mix.
So out of the three you mentioned I would say
TUTH =more advanced user for making special mixes
Ammunition= simple “all in one” for general use without too much Anone. It also has a cologne scent to it. I’ve herd it smells good, but if you like having your own particular cologne to use then get TUTH.
Personally I would add in A314 in my list of choices. I would rather have A314 than any of the others u listed just because it works so welll in so many situations for so many people without much risk of ODing on it.
if you are working in a female dominated office environment then i would be very careful with androstenone during office hours. doesn’t mean don’t use it, just be cautious. personally i would save the -none for the out of the office experiments. if i worked in a female dominated environment i would be using the -nol’s and -rone and letting the women sort out between themselves who gets first shot at me.
keep in mind that if bill gates were to show up at the office wearing hells angels leathers riding a harley that even if everyone was too intimidated to laugh at him outright they would definetely be making fun of him behind his back.
if you try the androstenone products during a body wax or other very close personal contact pay particular attention to your scent because as your body temp rises, your androstenone can begin to turn, just like milk you can go sour real quick. if you try to cover it with a boat load of cologne during a body wax you may have a hard time keeping the girl in the same room with you. that may be a good time to experiment with androstenone on your clothing, if you are wearing any during the wax that is. you could also try the -none on your head hair or ears for that matter.
as far as i know, Ammunition and TUTH are two entirely different products. i have the Ammunition with double -none but i believe it contains other pheromones that are not present in TUTH. i am quite happy with the Ammunition fragrance. not only is it a scent that happens to agree with me but the scent doesn’t disappear after thirty minutes so i know the androstenone is “protected” so to speak.
i have different products to use when i am with one woman or what i call general out and about times. ammunition is definetely an out and about pre-mix when i don’t know who i will be close to or for how long. it goes very well with slacks and a nice shirt. when i’ve singled someone out i combine pheromones just for her.
as far as your discrimination comment goes, i’ll be very very disappointed if i haven’t tasted a woman or 6 from every continent and every race before i die. right now i am having a thing for graceful eastern indian women and i may have to take a trip to bangalore soon to work this one out
From what I’ve heard and experienced “straight” -none can be a bad thing at “those” times, but I’ve also found that when used in combo with other products (or in a mix like Ammunition) often those bad vibes are eased and not as “dangerous.” I’ve had bad experiences with a -none heavy prodcut in the past (not Androtics item), but whan I experimented by wearing it with a314 the “bad” effects seemed to have been reduced.
Anyway I personally would go easy when using -none products until you find out your personal “body chemistry” limits. Some is usually a good thing (sometimes very little goes a loooong way). In a female heavy working environment I agree that the -nol/-rone type products may be the best overall choice (again, a314, for example).
My opinion. Others may have more direct experiences to relate.
When i used a high content Anone product in the past it gave off an overly intimidating vibe and women weren’t as talkative and kept there distance..men although not mean seemed a little stand-offish and also kept there distance. less has been more for me with Anone. 20mcg seems to be the uppper optimal max limits for Anone. You can get by with more Anone with more A314 and Alpha-nol, but I’d say keep 20mcg your upper limits for Anone even with the likes of these.
Sexually oriented Ratios:
Best places to use higher amounts around 20mcg area are clubs, bars, and party scenes with lots of people, smoke, and women on the prowl. for dating I’d start out low and if things go well gradually increase the Anone mcg with each successful date. Keep in mind Anol will reduce the sexual effects of Anone and also the negative effects(dual-edged sword) when used together on you. I’ve found a 2:1 or a 2:1.5 ratio of Anone to Anol keeps things sexual while initiating conversation and openess. Even 1:1 ratios still seem to have sexual effects from some users. An example would be (2:1)using 5mcg Anone to every 2.5mcg of Anol or a 1:1 being 5mcg Anone to 5mcg Anol, which is very similar to Ammunition heavy version..ofcourse it has another pheromone as well.
NOTE:
These are just generalized guidelines for most people. Most studies have indicated that for most men 20mcg of Anone is the optimal max dosage. Some men produce more natural Anone than others and vice versa. Asian men seem to produce less and African-american men more than white males. Also, the older you get, post 35, the less Anone your body naturally produces.
im in the same situation.
standoffish and shy women, dont do it for me. I notice when I wear TE, they are extremely shy.
IO should help with this, no?
IO and Shine should both help women to open up after you initiate in some way.
Some have been finding small amounts of experimental pheromone TAL to help, too. As I mentioned in another thread, it may help to remotely boost women’s confidence around you… and thus amp up their expressiveness. This has certainly been reported enough times by women who wear TAL themselves.