Hallo again!
My Pheros arrived last week - thank you Androtics - and ive done some tests.
First, i sprayed 1 Spray Ammo double concentrated on my wrist and rub it to the other. I entered the Bakery iam always in and stayed for one hour, but no special reaction from the people in there.
For the second Test i use one Spray Ammo on the wrists and one on my neck, with the same result as below.
For the third Test i used 1 spray Ammo and 2 IH on wrists and neck, no real reaction again…
I have to say that i know the most of the people at the bakery (coffee), in this case i would recognise a change in peoples performance very easy.
Same at shopping, no more interesting from people to me as usual, no staring girls etc…
Iam not going to clubs etc, my “hunting area” is more coffe, shopping etc…
Any suggestions?
Greetings, Hubert
Many factors.. Your age, race, the race of those around you..
And sometimes you just got to find your sweet spot.
Did you say you have AMMO X2?
Yes, ive bought Ammo x2. Here is my Introduction Post:
“Hallo, iam Pherobeginner48 and as my name says, a newbie in the scene.
Iam 48 years young, not ugly but not the real Adonis 
. Iam skinny and more intellectual looking, than healthy and muscular. Iam a white european/German guy, 1,75m tall and about 68kg. From my natural iam a funny, joking guy when my desease let me be. I love to discuss and flirt around.
In my youth i was very buisy opening girls with no problem 
.
Five years ago i had a stroke and 3 years ago a Multiple Sklerose was diagnosed. In this way my personality suffered heavily and my social status too.
Now i want to try if some Pheros can help me to open girls/women again and get my status more “popular”.
I already bought Andro Vita for men and L2K v1 Black Spice. I dont know if this is the right chemie for me and my situation, i first ordered and then consult the Forum…
Do you have any suggestions for me?
Sorry for my mistakes and small English, cause my schooltime is over 30 years ago
Greetings from Bavaria, Pherobeginner”
PS, i already sent back L2K and Androvita
Nice. But I think you posted in the wrong area.
I’d maybe think on getting the Ammo up around your neck, with the socials on your wrists.
IME sexuals always seem to do better near the centre.
You may need more than two sprays with the condition you described. Illness does fuck with your phero production and in my recent go with Arthritis, I found my None dose climed steadilly as I got worse and more out of condition whilst waiting for surgery - Things have improved now my recovery is well underway and mixes are becoming much more effective again. 
@Jdub, Miss Dragon thought it would be better if i come here to the men’s forum with these questions. I only copied my introduction post up to here, cause you asked for my conditions.
Greetings from Bavaria
@ mobocaster, today i will try out your idea - thank you!
Hallo again, today i tried out your idea mobocaster. 2 sprays Ammo x2 on neck and wrist (as i rub it on the neck), 1 spray IH on the wrist. Business as usual i can not see any difference to the other days - with/without mones…
I was in to different bakeries/coffees where i always around and where i know the people.
Would A314 be the better choice, or does the mones generally not work to my person?
The people around me are different age, white and mostly Germans…
Greetings from Bavaria
I think you just got to find your sweet spot. Sometimes what works for some doesn’t work for others.
Thanks Jdub.
The sweetspot is the best point where i apply the pheroes, right? I apply on wrists, neck and throat, i spray on my wrist and rub to the other, then i rub the wrists to the neck/ears. In case it is nearly winter here in Bavaria i have no other points with blank skin…
greetings from Bavaria
I feel like the instant honesty isn’t enough to buffer 2 sprays of Ammo, especially double strength, in a delicate environment such as a coffee house or bakery. I would go for something like double strength instant openness, with a little IH, and then your 2x ammo. I think you are blanketing the bakery with sex and people are a bit confused. Your combination would probably work in a nightclub, but I don’t think it’s ideal for a bakery/coffee shop.
Ok, thank you snorida!
Perhaps i try 1 Spray of Ammo and 2 sprays of IH, perhaps this dose does better fit to the location. I just ordered a314 and the bonus TUTH, i hope with this few mones iam able to the design the right mixtures for my needs…for that iam not a millionaire i have to stop buying mones again and again 
. I think i then try out a314 and Ammo, perhaps it suits better to my needs…
Greetings from Bavaria!
As deodorant and after shave i use Hattric Classic, perhaps this stuff covers the mones - is this possible?
It is quite possible - Although I can’t find an ingredients list in anything I can fully understand, it looks to me that the deodorant at least contains Triclosan - Which is an antibacterial and a very effective phero destroyer.
For this reason alone (never mind any potential long-term health issues) I would strongly advise you eliminate anything containing triclosan or similar antibacterials from your personal care routine. I would even avoid spraying the stuff or pheros in the same room due to the potential negatives of even a small amount of triclosan in the atmosphere.
Not so clear about the aftershave, so you could use that as a scent instead - but use application points away from your pheros and until you know what’s in it, apply the aftershave by spraying into a bit of tissue or cotton wool and dabbing it - this is to avoid overspray on your pheros and any residuals in the atmosphere.
No - The Sweet Spot is your most effective dose for the situation you are in. To find that may well take a bit of experimentation and yes, it is likely that your sweet spot for work, polite socialising etc will be lower than in uninhibited situations like clubs parties and having fun.
Although your age does have influence and an older guy can usually use more Androstenone compared to a younger guy - but again, only testing will quantify how much.
I’m not so convinced of the spray, rub and wipe way of application. Personally I find spraying directly on the app points is best and IME it is better to get most of any Androstenone in a mix up arounf your nexk/throat as it keys-in with your personality more naturally. Socials however can be spread wider and I tend to get most of them on the wrists/forearms.
Also, in cold conditions, phero diffusion tends to fall-off badly, so rather than look for hits outdoors, look at making better use of indoor environments where the added warmth/humidity actually help you better.
Yes, that’s a good start. A314 would be very interesting in that environment, I feel. When you can afford it, definitely get some instant openness and instant shine. They’re great for quick hits and I think for what you’re looking to do, it would benefit you.
Thanks alot for your help mobocaster and snorida!!
Today i tried out to run without after shave and deo but with one spray Ammox2 and one spray IH - i think i got two Hits!! Perhaps the Hattric deo really destroyed the pheros!
Greetings from Bavaria!
Hallo all, today i got a request from the manufacturer Henkel/Schwarzkopf which produces the Hattric Products. All articles they sell are without Ticlosan they said…
Greetings from Bavaria
Did they say if they use any other antibacterial instead? There are several that can be pretty bad. Triclosan is the worst though.
It can also take a bit of practice to get-up to spotting hits, some can be very subtle indeed - esp in polite company and with people who already know you, it can take a little while for the new hero sig to take hold.
@mobocaster, i only asked for Triclosan, in this kind i got only the answer “were not using Triclosan”! I think i dont use Deo anymore, now i only use a little after shave and eau de cologne…
Perhaps it is better to let the own Pheros work too!