Wanted to start a proper journal as I had spent the day with one of my favorite smelling pheros Ammo and was somewhat disappointed by a lack of results. Freshly showered in clean clothes Ammo2x 1 spray to the throat 1 on each wrist and one to the palm then dabbed behind each ear and under a nostril.
Other scents, (apart from speed stick deodorant, none at all).
Location: big box department store.
Time since application: approx 1.5 -2 hours
Self effects: I did not notice any self effects whatsoever, no swagger or elevated self confidence.
Hits: tried to see if I noticed any unusual attention being paid to me and appeared to be absolutely none at all. I did walk past a woman with brats in tow in one aisle (contact lens solution), and the same woman ended up in the other aisle (soaps & shampoo) I went to about 5 - 10 mins after I arrived. Pretty sure it was strictly coincidence as I noticed no other IOI’s and she did not even look up when I said excuse me to walk by to get to the deodorants. Stopped at the checkout stand female cashier, prettycute seemed about as pleasant/friendly as cashiers generally are, polite, smiled but no unnecessary chit chat. Got my stuff and left noticed no other attention.
Next stop grocery store.
Time since initial application: 4-6 hours so I reapplied one spray to the throat, one split between the wrists and dabbed a spray split between the earlobes and under the nostrils. This time I noticed at least a couple of women picking up on the scent, (2 in different parts of the store were sniffing a bit as if trying to determine what they were smelling. Walked by one woman that looked in my direction took a whiff and seemed to stop in her tracks, I was moving and stopping to try to figure out her reaction would have been way too obvious so I moved along. Got my items and went to stand in line behind a woman at one cashier. I was not going to make the mistake of forgetting to check out the pupils of the female cashier to try and see if I could get dilation as I had been wishing I had done at the department store. First cashier continued to ring up her customer and did not notice any sort of reaction at all so I saw another female cashier finish up so I moved to her line. She was very pleasant and smiling, did not notice any dilation, seemed as if she was just a pleasant person ringing a customer.
Observations: Ammo would probably be the hardest pheromone for me to pull off being congruent with. I always feel like any flirtation that I would show a woman would result as me being seen as a creepy old perv, not that I had any idea how to flirt when I was younger. I’ve known a couple of dudes who were naturally flirtatious and somewhat envied them because it seemed to me that if I tried I would be seen as a skeevy perv. I was really hoping for some killer self-effects like the kind I seem to get from A314 and I/S. I almost wonder if I shouldn’t just give up altogether as the slight edge I could possibly get from pheromones are being greatly eclipsed by reality, (I’m too old, too fat, and too ugly to meet a woman).
On the other hand I had a real positive experience with I/S and A314. If you’ve read my A314 interview post it describes an interview that went well for me w/ 3 drops A314 and 3 sprays of I/S. On the way back from that interview I stopped at a coffee shop for a self-congratulatory bluberry muffin. This really attractive young woman waited on me and the pheros gave me the courage to flirt a little,I even winked at her which I never do for the aforementioned reasons.She joked back a little than I got my muffin and headed out. Granted I just got out of an interview so I was in my best suit with tie and braces. I think the key there was confidence which I just don’t seem to be getting with Ammo. Of course there is always tthe fact that the times I’ve used Ammo, was not in a pickup appropriate location but I was really alarned by a lack of self effect fron Ammo, but rather than throw in the towel I wiil continue to look for my sweet spot with Ammo and go from there.
nice reporting!. Sorry Ammo didn’t make a huge difference for you. Ammo doesnt have a huge self-effect on me either, but seems to help with attracting women. I would try it in a more social setting like a bar, or something of that nature. Another thing is it is possible you used too much? I usually use 2 sprays. I’m 26. Ammo is a -none product and it is possible to OD… when you OD on -none you can get negative hits or absolutely no hits at all. I might try using less. maybe just 2 full sprays and see how that works… maybe one to neck pulsepoints and one split between wrists. For confidence try the above plus one drop of A314 right below your nose… that reaaally kicks in the confidence for me. nice report again and good luck.. it can take some time to get to the right spot with these things 
Even at 1x, this much AMMO is guarenteed OD. You applied the equivalent of 12 sprays 1x AMMO 
. I get good self effects and noticed my first phero hits using just 2 sprays of 1x AMMO. Most likely, you simply ODed like crazy and ghosted. I suggest taking a step back and using just 1 spray and see how that works out for you. The next day, use 2 sprays. You shouldn’t need more than 3 sprays at 2x strength to see results. Even that is a bit much. Also, keep in mind that everyone is different when it comes to self effects, as well as effects on others. I personally get no self effects from -nol and seem to only get self effects from -none. Even then, it usually only lasts about 10 minutes or so depending on what and how much I applied. Don’t get discouraged, just change it up a bit and see what happens. Good luck!
I figured being Asian and middle aged I would need to be using 2x. Also between the first application and re-app was about 4-6 hours. What would be the effects of OD with AMMO? I didn’t feel invisible just did not seem to get the positive feedback I’ve gotten wearing Instant Shine. Would OD prevent one from having self effects? I totally understand about being in a more social arena being appropriate with AMMO use, but was under the impression it could be used anywhere unlike TUTH which is bar/club/orgy exclusive. Thanks to both of you for the feedback. I have heard that another component of usage of some pheros is effects may not result til over several days use. I’ve worn ammo maybe 3 - 4 times, but til this last experiment, always had I/S and or CTTM2. Had never noticed self effects with AMMO even when I wore other pheros that normally make me more confident. Possibly because being a player is soooo incongruent with my personality? I will try the less is more and also hold off til I’m doing something where a proper response would be considered appropriate. Weekend coming up, can hit a bar, though I hate paying $5 for a beer and having worry about driving home.
Bar 2 sprays of Ammo, still nothing. So I went to a bar to see if I could finally get some results with Ammo. In all fairness not coming off as much of a player and when I initially got there, no discernible results from just Ammo. Broke down and whipped out mytravel pack sprayed one IS spritz from a TOGO bottle. Had an attractive woman look in my direction and gave the over-the-shoulder while licking lips after application of IS. She was young and beautiful so I have doubts that I was who her IOI was meant for. While shooting pool seemed to be getting some attention from another young lady but I was on fire at the pool table so who knows. Tried some spaceland which not long after application gave off the cat piss smell. Formal journal entrry tomorrow after I have had some time to sleep on it.
So the other night on advice of some phero experts on the site, continued the experiment that I am conducting with Ammo 2x and cut back to 2 sprays. Went to a pizza place but not much chance of interaction, no discernible difference whatsoever. Went to a bar, still nothing. Not wantingto waste one of the few nights I go out with no phermone power, I went to the can and busted into my travel kit, (1 TOGO of I/S, one of I/O, one TOGO of Spaceland and one TOGO of TUTH) in a cigarette tin). Did a spray of I/S to the throat and one to each wrist. Put a little residue under my nose. Seemed to possibly have a great effect at least on my mood/self-confidence. Had an attractive woman look in my direction and gave the over-the-shoulder while licking lips after application of IS. She was young and beautiful so I have doubts that I was who her IOI was meant for. While shooting pool seemed to be getting some attention from another young lady but I was on fire at the pool table so who knows. Tried some spaceland which not long after application gave off the cat piss smell.
What can I say? In about the last 9 years before pheros, I have been approached by a woman exactly one time, (in a bar). Since my discovery of pheros, in the last 2.5 months I have literally doubled the number of times that I have been approached. Can this be attributed to the amount of times I have gone out to places where interaction with women is possible? While it is true that I have gone out to bars more since I’ve started using pheros, neither of these events have taken place at a bar. The first time was I/S, I/O and A314 at a charity dance.
This second time can be attributable to one shot of I/G, one shot of I/S and one spray of CTTM2 to the hair and one to the forearms. Happened at a coffee place. I was dressed pretty shabbily in a jersey and wool coat, the edges of my undershirt visibly tattered. I was clean, (showered earlier this AM), and while I had used mouth wash and brushed my teeth, I had smoked a cigarette merely moments before stepping into the coffee place. My hair, while clean was not combed and did look somewhat shabby. Before pheros, I went to a coffee place in my favorite bookstore every weekend for like 5 years and had never been approached by a woman there so yeah, I’m thinking its gotta be the pheros.
The bad news is that once again I dropped the ball. Seriously, when this attractive 20 something girl said hi, I was so shocked I could feel myself go flush and psychologically, I think I somewhat came unglued. It’s pretty lame, I know, but I’m not going to beat myself up. I have been approached by women like 5 times in my whole life, I have never considered myself particularly attractive and am currently pretty seriously overweight. Even in my early mid 20’s, while I was going to college and 30-40 lbs lighter, the number of times I had been approached by a woman was once in a bar.
So what happened? She waived and smiled, my internal dialogue ran through my mental rolodex to try and figure out from where I knew this attractive young woman. I smiled, she walked up and said something, once again I was sooo taken aback, I totally missed practically everything she said. I sense she recognized how freaked out I was and possibly took it as rejection(?) or perhaps when she approached she noticed my weight, my age the condition of my clothes or my general smokiness.
She came up to explain/apologize, (it’s kind of fuzzy). I tried to be cool, comforting and warm and asked her a question but at that point we both seemed kind of freaked out and she ended up going her separate way. My only hope is that she did not end up thinking I was trying to reject her because I was so freaked out by the whole thing.
Lesson learned, when wearing pheros, you really have to be ready for anything. Keep yourself clean and impeccably groomed at all times because literally when you least expect it “it could be on”.