is it hard to get pheros off? I’ve heard some are hard to get off, but some after taking a shower will come off easy. I’m guessing sprays are easier to get off than oils?
No not really, shower with some anti bacterial soap and you should be fine.
You may have a slight residual with the oils but nothing major.
The spray mones on there own only last on you for about 4 to 6 hours. Some people have gotten random hits after that period of time but its rare.
Tisha
All right, it’s a good thing (and a good think) to take your “How Pheros Work” model and inspect it to see what showering and different kinds of soap might do.
Most “aromatic” molecules are very small and lightweight compared to other molecules. This low mass is what makes it possible for the molecules to float around as an “aroma.” But aroma molecules eventually settle .. they fall to the ground. A good rain “rinses” the aroma molecules out of the air and down into the earth and sewer drains, and you get that “fresh smell”. (OT: Dogs have the reputation for being better innate smellers than humans, but in fact, they have noses that are closer to the ground, and it’s that huge advantage which helps them build their “smelling skills.” There’s more to smell down there.)
Alcohol, for example, evaporates. In other words, it’s a liquid that, at room temperature, sends off molecules from the liquid into the air of the room as a ‘vapor’. That’s why you can “smell alcohol” in a room, or on someone’s breath.
From the “How Pheros Work” physics model you start with having small molecules that are either resting on your skin, or are in a bit of alcohol on your skin or on your hair. The “work” actually occurs when one of those molecules jumps off your skin or hair, into the air, and into someone’s nose (or somehow otherwise enters into and affects that other person’s body chemistry.)
Now, ask yourself this: “Why don’t all of the little phero molecules jump off my body all at once?”
Perhaps they do jump off again and again, but get re-attached, mostly, with only a small fraction achieving “escape trajectory” at any one moment. Perhaps some molecules are inherently more ‘sticky’ than others – so they stay attached to your skin, or to a hair until some sweat slicks things up or until your body temperature rises a fraction of a degree, giving them more “liftoff” power. Maybe as you wrinkle, stretch and flex your skin you help that little phero molecule get a running start at the escape trajectory. You might touch the spot where the phero is clinging and transfer the molecule to a fingertip, from which launch might be much easier.
In any case, after you apply, no matter how may of those molecules actually reached their goals (targets’ noses) for a while there will be some phero molecules still clinging to your skin (and clothes!) after you come bouncing home in the wee hours of the morning reflecting philosophically (and magnanimously) on your social successes overnight.
Some soaps and cleansers and gels are better than others at getting persistently sticky molecules to relax, let go, and get into the swim of things.
Now, just to confuse matters more, here is something to realize as you refine your model. Among all of the aromatic molecules, pheromones tend to be among the heaviest. In fragrances, the “Top notes” tend to be the very smallest small molecules, which launch relatively easily and evaporate relatively quickly. “Heart notes” are mid-size small molecules that last for hours in a parfum or cologne. And it turns out that pheromolecules are heavy small molecules, like “Bass notes” in fragrances.
Now, one of Androtics claims to superiority is that they are taking some of the most advanced “fragrance diffusion technology” used in the parfum industry and pairing that with pheros. So in addition to changes in body temperature and how you move your body and sweat and microcurrents of air, there are also, presumably, some little technical “booster rockets” that have been added by Androtics to help launch your pheros before you first applied.
But, now you want to wash the heavy-sticky but still small aroma / phero molecule off and work with a “fresh canvas”. (Or perhaps you tried the -none OD / Instant Jerk experiement last night and you realize you have to be at your seat among your less adventurous co-workers in less than an hour.)
The friction of wash-cloth scrubbing can only do so much. And In Some Cases, water can make a molecule more ardently attached to it’s patch of skin or hair.
Here, then, are the words of MHarris:
The polysorbates help those molecules relax and loosen up.
On clothing, Oxy-Clean type cleaning products are effective.
For spot cleanup on your skin (careful with hair!) you can use a cotton swab or cotton ball with 3% hydrogen peroxide (H2O2)
Now, here’s the challenge: think through the whole issue of “clingy” / stuck-on-you molecules, and build-up, and OD. Because if the molecule IS stuck on you, it’s not jumping off into someone’s nose, so it really doesn’t matter if you had a bajillion molecules stuck to you as long as they stay stuck …
Fantastic reply, MarkL! you got my rep points!