Hello everybody! How you doing guys? I’m J.C, 32 years old and Hispanic guy. I have this situation with a friend. She actually put in me in friends zone. I really like her, she always says me that I’m special for her as a friend, she have told me she feels safe and protected with me Only as a friend! We have a nice friendship and we have gone out as just friends mode only. It’s clear I need to get the heck out of the friends zone and convert that estimation, friendly affection into romance, love, admiration, sex and ltr, if possible. I have to be honest, I’m NOT an attractive guy, I’m physically average, imo. My friend, She is Hispanic, 32 years old with a much stronger personality than me, maybe a little bit a control freak girl at times LOL. Anyway, I 'm looking for a few good pheromones to help me on those issues if possible. It’s clear that I would need something for increasing that stronger alpha personality that she usually likes in men and of course, try to increase the attention and maybe increase my physical appearance and her perception towards me. I would like some products that don’t create adverse reactions like fear, intimidation, or even weird behavior towards me. I have to clear up that I’m living in PA, though I’m moving out soon to Miami, FL where she is living and obviously, I will use the pheromones products in the warm South Florida; I don’t know if the weather has something to do at the moment of using or releasing pheromones, too. Please I really would like recommendations, tips, hints, advices to get out of that baleful friend zone and get with her a good long term relationship. Any pheromone products that will help me in my current situation with her? I receive any advices, recommendations, tips, tricks, whatever helps from you guys, I really appreciate it! Thanks and please reply me back about what pheromones to get for my scenario keeping in mind that are for the warm weather of Miami , FL! Thanks so much for everything!
A couple of points;
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You have to force yourself to be prepared to walk away. You have to care less about this relationship, otherwise you come over as desperate. This is unattractive.
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Be less available. Meet other people, especially other women. A woman tends to like you more if she sees that other women like you.
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When you are with her, start to touch her more. Shoulder, upper back, upper arm, to start. As time goes by, move down her back a little, look for opportunities to touch her hair. Touch is extremely important. There is a ton of research to prove that when you touch someone, you generate attraction. The more you touch, the more attraction.
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Depending on where your relationship stands with her, you probably want to generate an aura of interest/sexual attraction. “Ammunition” would be a good starting point, “Instant Honesty” can help with deep bonding, and “Instant Shine” will help with “feel good” factor. One other 'mone could be P130, which seems to make women want to touch YOU.
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Bear in mind that 'mones are not a magic love potion. They can only tip the balance a bit in your favour if the basic attraction is already there. And you must think, believe, and act, in the way that you would like to in your ideal dreams. Practice behaving like James Bond! Believe that you ARE James Bond! Some dating advice from someone like David DeAngelo may also help you. (just google his name.)
Hope this helps.
Hello,
basically I agree, but don’t touch her if it feels creepy for you. Of course it shouldn’t because you have some rapport between each other, but if you’re just starting to flirt and touch her ungenuinely and feel like a creep, your attraction will drop big time. I don’t need to look for a research to prove that, lol. Also if a woman touches me before I allow her to with my body language she gets rejected. Consider that.
Then also, yes, have your own oppinion; attraction is generated when you spike her emotions. Make her see the opposite of what she expects from you from time to time, disagree with her (don’t discuss too much), etc.
Also it is generated through passion, so be passionate.
Basically you just have to be yourself without placing her on a pedestal. You’re just being yourself: don’t try to be funny, if you’re naturally funny guy, awesome; don’t try to touch her, just be yourself and either touch her genuinely and naturally or don’t… Thats the good thing about flirting, you know some basics and can apply them to your own style without having to do what you dont wanna do or doesn’t feel right. If people tell you to be a funny guy when youre actually not then you’ll not benefit from that at all; doesn’t matter how many researches prove that making a woman laugh can spike attraction. Fu** that shit 
When I say “touching”, I don’t mean wrestling! I mean a very brief touch to the shoulder or forearm, just a second long, when you’re making a point. Then ten minutes later, again a very brief touch, maybe when you’re both laughing. It must feel natural.
But it is very important as one of the tools fro attempting to break out of the friend zone. As I said, there is a MASS of research to show that even very brief touches generate feelings of goodwill in the person being touched. But it must be brief, fleeting, at first. And only on the shoulder or upper arm, to start with. If the lady likes you, she will not object. If she DOES object to these brief, fleeting touches, then you are in the fried zone forever, I’m afraid. There just isn’t the attraction for her. Nothing to be done. No amount of 'mones will help.
Just my opinion!
I really do respect your oppinion m8 and don’t wanna argue actually. Just pointing out that touching can backfire some times when the women are like me. If a hot 10 touches me without me allowing it she’ll get rejected, what the researches about attraction say is irrelevant there, I can write my own stating the opposite and both parties would be right because it depends on certain factors. But yeah I agree with you that when touching is allowed, it is a god mode like tool to spark attraction if done right.
No problem! I agree with you that it can backfire at times - but if it DOES backfire, then the chances of a LTR were probably a bit low to start with!
I’ve had good solid progress recently with this touching thing, but I started out EXTREMELY carefully! Just fleeting touches, almost like accidental brushes against her arm. Within the last 6 weeks we are now up to leaning against each other, trying to push each other sideways while giggling, and lingering hands on each other’s back. This probably seems extremely tame to a lot of younger guys here, but there are solid reasons for this relationship developing slowly. Starting to use 'mones has definitely sparked things along! But the basic attraction was there to start with. Touching and using 'mones has just brought the relationship along faster than normal, for me at least.
But we are all a little different, which is what makes this world such an interesting place!
Best way out of the friend zone. Turn your back to it and walk away. Why would you want to change yourself when there are thousands o of girls that will take you s is. You’re Latin and you’re moving to Miami. You’ll miss out on so many girls by focusing on one chick.
.02 good luck.
PS. You say you’re average, guess what? So is 90% of the general .
Pheromones alone won’t get you out of the “friend zone”. (which really is just a round-about way of saying the women rejected you)
Your first mistake is acknowledging the friend zone in the first place. Friend zone is an invention of men. There is no friend zone.
You’ve been blown off, find another girl and forget about your oneitis.
When you realise the above, THEN pheromones will help you.
I agree with unique chasing multiple women gets you out of the friend zone because you act less deparate. Chasing one women especially if she a 10 will get you blown off because all guys chase her.