Golden 13: What and What

The infamous Golden molecules

All,
The buzz these 13 molec’s (if you will) are generating got me thinking:

What are they?
What are the reported effects?

So,
Mones experts, enthusiasts, reporting users, and professors of mone-ism, would you be so kind to educate inquiring users as to effects, affects, and advisements on these? (Maybe this post, thread can be bumped or tagged along with the insightful explanation around these (shared “HERE”)

TAA
P74
P75
P83
P91
P94
P95
P102
P130
TAC
TAK
AndrosteRONE
AndrosteNONE

IMO
Recording reported effects could shortening research times and possibly enlighten. I for 1 am gearing to buy TAC and possibly others on the list.
Would be nice if all or a combination of these were packaged at a discount.:slight_smile:

Alternatively, you could just take a little time and use the search function or read any of the various “Putative Guide” threads that have gone before.

A bit of time spent on the boards just reading is a very useful learning experience. :slight_smile:

And there is also a very good argument that we should approach these pheros with as little preconception as possible. So maybe think on the advantages of trying them blind first?

Yeah, thought about that too.
My idea was to
a. Offer users insight on the reported effects from those who have tested and know the products.
b. Share their feedback on what well season mone users have seen
c. Give users a chance to compare based on general anticipation vs. acutal observation.

*Option c. may actually provide better insight and more accurate cross-comparison results on kind of person testing and the results yielded.

i.e. “for example” no pun, offense, labeling, stereotyping, or ill-insinuation intended
Let’s just say an “Experience mone user” of Asian descent, 5ft 10in, 190 lbs medium build, slower metabolism, type O+, aggressive demeanor reports on effects of product xx

A cross comparison (the AD team would be more interested in the detailed specifics than we would)
Caucasian or Italian descent “New to mones” 6ft. 3in 200lbs, slim build, high energy type A+ mild tempered reports on same product xx

Knowing the reported effects for general anticipation vs. actual effects from personal observation will shed a ton of light on how the effects of mones “might” change and give better insight to the VERSATILITY of mones in various settings and variety of people.

Too much for my brain to disect right off, but that’s the general thought behind it.

..just my 1 cent :slight_smile:
Besides, finding things easier on the sight is more helpful than digging through a needle stack trying to find a straw of hay. :slight_smile:
Thanks Mobo for the feedback (feel free to delete or bump this post as fitting).

I Created a Database Awhile Back… It Lists Almost All the Products… It Also Gives the Effects that are Most Common… It Also has Some Notes from Self Testing and Info from Other Users that I Found Interesting… Now I ONLY Know Where I Saved it… I had to ReBuild My System so It’s on a Drive Somewhere?!?

Also, If They Want/Need Research on Certain Mones… Here is an Idea… Create a Test Pack Series with Something People WANT (ie: P83, P74, TAC) and Place it With TWO Others that Aren’t Getting So Much Attention… Note: The Want List was Just Off The Top of My Head with No Thought… Make the Price Reasonable but Don’t Cut Your Throat On It… The Regular Users ALL Know This Stuff is NOT Cheap for You Guys… Also We are at a Place Where Almost ALL of the Golden 13 are Available (I think P130 is Not)…

Here’s a post that somewhat adds credibility to the debate:

“Both points are understood however”

Haha, I thought “hey i remember I asked this awhile ago!”

Its preferred you blind test as much as possible especially the reporting users. AD has the info your suggesting gathered from many reports and getting to know people on the forum so don’t think just because its not posted in a data base for all to see that its unknown.

Sure people can search and create there own to some extent but it just creates more placebo and in the long run slows progress so its best not to make it easy. Not if you want to create effective products using the advanced molecules.

I know someone mentioned “testing blind go’s against congruence” Congruence is not what makes your mones work. It works with your mones. The true character of a putative will stand out without congruence.

When wearing mones for personal use congruence helps to enhance them to your best advantage.

When TESTING mones being congruent is placebo.

You cant be congruent with a putative until you know what it does and if your told what it does before hand you more likely to misinterpret reactions and push it in a direction it just doesn’t flow in. That’s not how you make effective mixes.

I have been around this forum long enough to notice who reports from actually testing and who reports from preconceived notions from reading reports. Its unfortunate but at this time AD does not have the time or resources to change the format of the forum to prevent that.

While a data base would help users choose what to buy it doesn’t really help AD to post that information all in one place. People tend to forget the advanced is offered at low testing prices in exchange for accurate and unbiased reporting. While I love having all the info in one place and I do my voted is always for not having one posted on the putatives at least.

Tisha

Thanks Tish
Interesting response.

I, for one, have not made it to reporting user status (yet), so my limited know-ledge of mones is just that: limited.

I’m glad you chimed in on the subject.

My reason for posting was “somewhat” based on making an informed decision to make an “educated” purchase so to speak.

I agree with you on predetermined notion of expected effects that would cause placebo. I think I’m understanding that this approach can cause a wearer to “miss” the observation by looking for the “reported effect”, and bypass the user specific “actual effect”.

I see your point(s). :slight_smile: