I have been using 1/4th a spray of my 5mcg P75 which is apprx 1.25mcg per spray (or trying to get each time) combined with 10mcg of P83 which I think works really well together. I have been using Scent Of Eros on the forehead and that’s about it except IS which I stopped using 1 month in the semester since I am close to out of it and haven’t had the spare money to get more mones in over a year.
Now in this class people have been moving seats a lot. There was a girl of some asian descent one seat behind me to the left. I never talked to her or turned around and from what I can tell she never talked to anybody next to her and was just to herself. She moved to the other end of class eventually. I decided there was one other girl who talked to me after class a few times so I might as well move there since my area was boring and I was also interested in that asian girl who moved seats, so I did. First day in my new seat this girl didn’t talk to me (the asian one). The next day I only used P75 and nothing else, all other days has been with everything else she asked things about the class and somehow it turned into a conversation during class and while the lecture was going on and to top it off this was at the front of the class. First time the professor told anybody to stop chit chatting.
It’s the fact this happened out of the blue that I am wondering what is up. Now did apprx 1.25mcg of P75 do this trick? Or was it this late effect steve told me about in PM one time where somebody doesn’t react the first time around a strong pheromone signature but than acts on it the next day even if you don’t have anything? Now if I see her around she smiles and says hi when beforehand it was just somebody you don’t know.
Far as body language during class she has been scratching her foot that is leaning in towards me when crossing her legs, I observed some hairlplay although hairplay means nothing to me anymore since it’s the most unreliable IOI in my opinion. She closed in some of the space between my seat and hers since the next day after we just talked which includes leaning towards me. Unfortunately during this class I was sick torturing myself to hold in sneezes, coughs, and a running nose and it’s a class before a test so we didn’t talk this time. But in a study area for math tutoring she went out of her way to help me with something else and I didn’t even ask.
It seems interesting. A seemingly shy or introverted or reserved girl is opening up a bit, more than I noticed with anyone else. I had gotten more out of other girls while using mones but I’m logging this because of how this seems out of nowhere, I think something is at play here.
I have actually been doing a lot of reading here on the forums about P75 and from what I read it does help to get girls to initiate the conversation with you a little bit. I will be getting some with my next order here soon and will be doing some testing and put it in my log, but I would have to say that P75 had something to do with this.
P75 has become my new favorite go to weapon of choice. I get more consistent hits with this then I do with p83. As Mobo suggested in another thread mix P75 with MX297, and watch the magic happen.
The thing I fear about that is getting friend zoned by the younger girls. I have read a lot lately that 297 is a good way to get put there. Granted I have used it many times but my mix of choice would be SE Ammo or regular, IS, and p75. If I wasn’t worried about getting friend zone I would throw in some mx297 but haven’t had time to see if it actually does that or not.
Not so much around the younger ones - Don’t go too high on the MX297 (maybe 2 sprays MAX) and get some overt none or P75 behind it and MX297 is superb around younger women. Exactly the sort of social, engaging and very sexy mix that hits home on all levels.
Of course you also need to work it that way and IME that is when MX297 excels - Not all women (esp younger) are turned-on by or are looking for the sort of serious/solid/reliable values that a high status/sexual mix sends. Many are simply looking for a very good time and MX297 can deliver that in buckets! The only thing that will get you friendzoned there is your attitudes and behaviour.
Ah makes since I guess. So would this be a good mix for girls around 18-24, just for pickup or even first date? 1 Spray AMMO Summer, 2 Sprays IS 2x, 1 Spray Mx297, and on P75 at 2.5mcg? I am 20 and people seem to react best when i am only 1 spray of ammo.
I would say that’s an ideal target group. I’ve used the mix for pickup, first date, and pretty intense partying. I’d suggest you hang back on the IS - MX297 is pretty fun/social enough all on its own and Summer Ammo already has TAA/P130 in the mix, so another 4 sprays IS on top of that runs the risk of getting very giddy/over moderated.
Try just the 297/summer/P75 first, then see what you think.
Personally I used TUTH or plain none, because it gave a good sexual kick but with the least disturbance to the 297 vibe.
This is swaying away from P75 and the report a lot. Just to get it on point a little more. MX297 is a friend zone issue apparantly but P75 is sexual enough to fix it basically.
I haven’t used 297 but it’s possible 1.25mcg P75 and 10mcg P83 could do great. What I found when I first started doing 1.25 p75 and p83 combined is that it starts pulling more of a sexual attraction in like -none does, but in a way neither of those two putatives were able to before. This is why I am finding this combo and Scent Of Eros to be my regular mix, since I don’t have any IH or IO I am just working with the SOE for now for a little social buff.
But what is it with this report? Was this a late reaction from my full daily mix or was it the p75 alone which made it work. And are any of these I’m using considerably effective on asian women? I did put into consideration how asian women can be different, but from my observations this was out of the ordinary with her.
Don’t write-off MX297 so easily. Whilst it may have some weaknesses, it is a hell of a lot more than the “Instant Friendzone!” that some folk portray it to be. It is however true that it won’t suit all personalities or situations unless the wearer can make good use of its particular properties.
However, it remains very relevant as it can be a superb moderator/balancing product for many of the more potentially edgy/difficult pheros and P75 is right at the top of the heap for these. Far better than most if not all single molecules/combos I’ve used yet.
Try looking-up the “MX297 Mix Repository” and other similar threads from a couple of years back to see how many of us found ways to overcome/balance-out its weak spots and see why for a very long time it was second-only to A314 as the most popular product on these boards.
And FWIW, P75/MX297 is a flaming blinder around Asian women. I’ve had some great results there!
I wasn’t writing off 297, but just making it relevant to the point of P75
For me, I never got negative effects from Ammo, IJ, or P75 and I started with mones when I was 20 in college with mostly people aged 18-22, IJ may have had some people more distant from me but not to a point like I didn’t exist and not like I was ghosting. Far as negative effects I am seeing P75 as safe, come to think of it one guy a year back was making it his mission to cockblock me while acting like my friend the other moment.
