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I just got back from placing an order on Androtics Direct.

I’ve always been facinated with the study of human pheromones, as well as their affects. As someone who has spent a considerable amount of time with wildlife I know without a doubt they exist and are quite powerful.

Some of the trapping scents worked like magnets.

I can’t help but believe that these same chemicals work the same with humans as well. In fact, I’m sure of it.

I’m 38, live in Miami, Fl.

The order I placed was for: Putative 83, Alpha A314, and “Instant Openness”. I realize that this is a bit of an advanced mix, but if anyone of the senior members could help me with a good starting formulation of drops and sprays for both office, and playtime ( a few drinks in a neighborhood bar ) It would be quite helpful..

Windrider

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Hi, welcome to the forum.

Sounds like you bought some great stuff. If you wish to qualify for the GC, you need to tell us more about yourself. Are you shy or outgoing? Are you congruent with A314? What are the ways you plan to use mones?

Read this thread How to find your sweet spot... it’ll answer your question about starting out. Let me add that in the thread, Steve talks about the number of sprays, but for A314, substitute the word “drops” for “sprays.”

Looking forward to your reply!

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Welcome Windrider! Yes, that’s a much more advanced mix than I would have tried at first, but good luck to you, and I’m sure you’ll get it to work out. I’ve only tried Instant Openness myself, though I’m ordering P83 soon. The masters will probably suggest you attempt to find your own sweet spots, as pheros are very individual. Have you had any other experience with human pheros, perhaps on another site, or just in studying? What have you learned?

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Hi Pushtin, you’ll notice more attention with instant openess. I’m not familiar with the putative and the Alpha 314. Be sure to document your experiences so we can all learn from them.

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Hi Robbie,

Actually I’m outgoing, and quite the Alpha male already. Like any of us I can get bashful depending on the woman/man . A lot depends on my self esteem at the given moment..

I’ve always wanted to experiment with human pheromones and see what type of results would come about. Not necessarily for sex, but also for affect at work and in casual social situations. I’m really curious to see the results..

The biochemistry of it all is a bit murky. But thats what reading is for. And these forums seem chock full of information.

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Then A314 should serve you well. Some folks like to also use Instant Openness (as is on your list) or Instant Honesty to take that unapproachable alpha edge off of the A314. I’m guessing the P83 is to add an extra sexual edge to your mix. We all have different individual chemestry, so you will have to experiment, but you clearly know that.

Take it slow and steady and enjoy yourself! Good luck.

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My only experience with pheremones are from wildilfe lures. Basically, sex attractants to get animals such as deer, fox, coyotes, and bobcats to come to a bait where the scent has been applied. When used in conjunction with game calls they can be extremely affective ( especially with predatory animals ).

They can also be used as repellants as well. Using the urine of certain predatory species (mountain lion, bear, etc ) can cause animals such as deer, housecats, dogs and rabbits to avoid certain areas.

I remember years ago seeing a television show that was discussing the topic of human pheremones and the possibility of using them to attract members of the opposite sex. It seemed very plausable to me.

I never purchased any before out of fear of being scammed. All of the ads I had seen just seemed like “snake oil” and included a lot of verbage that basically made wild claims, or led you to believe it would hypnotize someone. That kind of junk science… :frowning:

I hadn’t really thought about it in a while. Largely because theres almost nothing out there but sites selling these mystery potions. Then I stumbled accross this forum and read a number of posts. I was pretty impressed to say the least. There are so many people here, men and women and all are reporting actual results from these chemical compounds. I just had to try it.

I have to admit that I’m still a bit skeptical, but decided to give it a fair try. So I purchased what seems to be the best products for me and plan on testing them as naturally as possible in my daily life and note any reactions that stand out. I noticed the men’s journal section and have read a couple. I’ll be starting one of my own as soon as I start playing with the chemicals. :wink:

Someone asked about my blood type: O positive

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Most all of us start out with some skepticsm. These products can stand up to the scrutiny, though. Take the time to determine your proper dose and everything else will fall into place.

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Hello Windrider, Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

Yes just like with animals, humans can communicate with chemical signals from our body’s. From the signal to mate to the alarm signal, Just like animals we produce them all. We are however different and because humans are rational emotion driven thinkers compared to most animals we dont react as blatantly as animals would. But we do react. Mones send these signals to the neurotransmitters in our brains thus causing a emotion or feeling and we react to that feeling and connect it to the source of the signal.

So while its normal to be skeptical (most people are) just keep in mind the differences in human behavior and animals behavior. Animals react on instinct without much rational thought. They get the signal to mate and find the source and get the job done. Humans get the signal and use rational thought and emotion before reacting. This is why mones are only part of picture when it comes to attraction.

Hmmm not the direction I would have started you out with but we can work with it.

A314 is great, Alpha, dominant, respectful, ups your status. You mention your already pretty alpha in personality. I would have suggested something more sexy, alluring. Keep in mind while some people feel comfortable around the Alpha you can get the “Awe” effect from some and for this reason its not big on making people approach. You may need to do the approaching and give comfort cues. IO used with it can help soften that and increase comfort.

I am curious as to why you chose P83. P83 is a single molecule mone in testing. Its one of the better putatives in my opinion. Not exactly sexual but sensual. Deceases inhibitions, Brings out more displaying or peacocking. Evokes more touch. On there own putatives can be difficult to get a handle on even for the experienced users. But if I had to choose a putative for a newbie to start with this and P74 would be it along with the T-series.

Its gonna be hard to say what your dosage would be. As I mentioned its still in testing and the data is not complete yet. I am assuming you got 12.5 mcg I would say test it alone for and look for behavior changes. They may not be reactions directed to you. Remember what I talked about above with emotion and reaction. The best thing to do is keep a note pad and take notice of how others behave whenever you have the putative on. Then once you have that part figured out move on to layering with either products to steer those mixes in a certain direction.

I know sounds a little complicated but it can be a interesting fun hobby as well as a rewarding learning experience.

All that being said … (no I dont have IO on today LOL)

I would suggest you look at AMMO for a sexy attractive mildly arousing vibe and IH for a deeper connecting communication on your next round.

If you have questions just ask. We look forward to your participation in the forum

Your GC is on its way :smiley:

Tisha

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Hi Tisha, it’s nice to meet you. I’ve read a number of your posts here. I have a feeling I’ll be seeking advice from you as I delve into this. :slight_smile:

Thank you for the Gift Certificate! It will be put to good use.

I agree with you about the difference between the Human and Animal reactions. The rational and emotional mind makes us much more complex. It has always facinated me.

I chose the P83 based on the reactions that the other users have experienced with it. I seemed that almost all of them were seeing variants of the same affect. This really peaked my interest in P83. I ordered the 30ml: 15mcg, unscented type. I plan on starting out using only this putative by itself, just like you suggested. I chose the unscented because I wanted to use a variety of scents to accompany it once I get it “dialed in” to see if different reactions occur.

I’m going to PM Steve O with my order number so I can access the A314 forum. It sounds like that one will be interesting to try at work.

I have to admit I’m getting excited to receive them and start testing them down here in Miami.

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The products arrived today.

I started a journal in the Men’s section. As soon as it is moderator approved it will be visible.

Very interesting findings…