Hey guys Chad here from Atlanta. I am a 39 year old male was married for 18 years and now hitting the dating scene. Been surfing the site to help find a good mix to help build confidence and have some fun. I purchased the following products. If you have any advise on these products that may help me with the trial and error please let me know. Thanks for such a great community.
“Turn Up The Heat” Pheromone for Men #16
Strength: 2.5 mcg/spray (Recommended)
My personality is funny outgoing but shy at first. My career is very demanding working with the government and I have always been the person to stay on the top of my game. However I do want to move up in the game and hoping that A314 gives me that edge. My overall social goal is to have myself be more open and no so shy with the ladies. I am always good with conversation it’s just the initiating the conversation. So that is why I purchased Instant Openness Does this seem to be a good formula? And what are you recommendations starting considering my age etc. I have been reading the forums and got lots of good information. But it really varies from person to person.
I wouldn’t use this at work, but I’d say 1-2 sprays TUTH with 1-2 drops A314 per spray works. I’d probably leave out the IO there. 314 is a surprisingly excellent buffer for Heat. One of the best. No shortage of threads. No clear understanding why it works, exactly. I happen to like alpha nol and IO. People say it harms the status of 314. With Heat, probably it won’t matter. But, again, Heat isn’t for work. It’s strange, because 314 is supposed to be 80% alpha androsterone, and the pioneering research on mones (and the pioneer products) mixed like 4:1 of just alpha nol and e Rone. I really don’t know for sure that I O does subvert the 314 status, but many have the opinion it does. Thought you should know, in case you want to study it further. Controversial.
Thanks for the feedback. I have tested A314 2-3 drops then 2 sprays of IO and I have notice zero response. So these two do not combine well? I haven’t used the TUTH because I haven’t been out to any clubs and definitely not to work. I need to figure out how to work the mones to my advantage. I am seeing this is going to be a fun experiment.
Guys I have tried several test to find my sweet spot. With A314 I have tested across the last couple of days with 1, 2, then 3 drops and I am not noticing any affects at all. Then last night I tried 3 drops of A314 and 2 sprays of TUTH in a highly sexual enviroment (strip club lol) and not so much as a comment. I can’t wait to find the sweet spot and hope pheromones actually work for me. Any advise is appreciated.
I’m not surprised - In that proportion, these two will pretty-much cancel each other out. If you re-read the store page, you will find that down the bottom of it, they advise IO as the product to tone down A314 - I find it wrecks it comprehensively.
If you want to add a conversational vibe to A314, I find IH/IS far better in many ways - for starters, it is mostly Betanol, so it doesn’t detract from A314 (in fact it deepens the trust/confidence aspect very nicely) and the IS steers the IH in a much more mature/quality/engaging/fun/feelgood conversation way, which is good for attraction on its own and makes for far better conversation that avoids the torrents of drivel that IO alone can unleash in other situations.
However, in a place where conversation is going to be limited, like a gig or loud club, IO is a good icebreaker and buffer for rawer sexuals like TUTH.
Although at 39, you are into the age range where A314 and a lesser amount of TUTH is an excellent mature/status/sexual combo - The idea is to use the TUTH to steer the A314 into very no-nonsense sexual territory. You may find that conversation becomes perfunctory in women of late 20s and over but younger ones may find it a bit too much.
Stick with the A314 - Oil can take a lot longer to get to grips with compared to many other pheros as it is so subtle. In my case it took about a month of wondering if it was doing anything for me, then I started having these “WTF am I doing here” moments as I started getting things going my own way and was asked to get involved in much higher profile work than I’d ever been before. After that, it was onward and upwards!
Also, try to stick with each dose for at least three days, then break for a day and go to the next dose. There is also an element of getting yourself used to the stuff and catching-up with it!
In clubs, you may need to go a lot higher on dose to maximise impact - I often find 4-6 drops goes much better, compared to my workday dose of 2-3.
Thanks guys I am stopping back by the club tomorrow. I will use two sprays of TUTH Strength:2.5 mcg/spray and 4-6 drops of A314 rev32. Excited to see if this works out.
Also remember that at 39, your TUTH dose may be higher as we tend to need more with age. Saying that, it is better to to use the smallest dose of TUTH you can manage to steer the A314 - you don’t want to drown it.
Also, when you say “not so much as a comment,” I hope you are engaging them in other ways - with eye contact, suitable body language etc. This is a very direct and unashamedly sexual mix that does not suit the shy/wallflower types. Its a “man of few words - who knows exactly what he wants” impression and it helps a lot to carry yourself that way.
Also, I hope its not just the strippers you are engaging? Any kind of “hired gun” is often not the best person to use pheros around - Remember they are skilled at finding a horny but desperate man and homing-in on him for entirely mercenary reasons and a surprising number are well clued-in about pheros/copulins and use them very effectively. There is a member here called The Gentleman - he is between us age-wise and has posted extensively on A314 in strip clubs and the like, so some searching would be in order
Thanks again and as for the comments none of the ladies said hey nice smell. But there was lots of eye contact etc just as a normal dancer would give. I thought I would try at the strip club since the women get up and close. This is not ultimately the place that I want to pickup women. I just wanted to test the effects of the mones.
Scent is just a carrier for the mones, which work on a much more fundamental level.
Don’t worry if you don’t get any scent hits - sometimes you do, very enthusiastically even but often not, its the other more subtle responses that really give things away. Have a look at the IOI sticky for an idea of the amount and range involved.
Does this seem to be a good formula? And what are you recommendations starting considering my age etc. I have been reading the forums and got lots of good information. But it really varies from person to person.