First time!!! What should I order!!

Hey,
I am interested in buying some pheros, but I’m not sure what to buy. I am 20 years old, I just want to get an edge in the dating/ hooking up scene. I’m a kind of on a budget, so Ill need to make multiple orders. I’m thinking of starting with ammo and instant shine. And then maybe moving up to the big guns like A314. Or I might go with A314 first, since it would last me longer, with ammo or instant shine…and then see from there .I looking to see a noticeable difference in sexual interest or dating. I want more instant attraction But I am not sure how the product will work or on some combos. Im also looking to add turn up the heat to my collection… but Im more interested in the ones I mentioned cuz they could be used everyday…Imagine overdosing on turn up the heat and finding myself in lecture at school :slight_smile:!!! …some day…lol

hey there!

go ahead and post an intro (what you wrote here is fine) over in the intro forum: Introductions - New Users, Say “Hello” Today and Get $25! at PheromoneTalk.com

you can qualify for a $25 gift certificate, which should help greatly with your budget. then you can get more goodies. :smiley:

ammo and shine are great starts. a314 is good for status, if you’re into that.

No more ammo!!! :frowning: :frowning:

Try A314 or IS to start, I’m fairly new too and they work well.

Hey Ak,

I’ll tell you for me Instant openness and A314 are golden (i also use a spray of TUTH when i’m out at the club… but only then), i don’t do too poorly with the ladies on my own but wearing those out have gotten me some serious hits!!! Like some other posts you will read on this forum women will actually open me up. Even on my most off night i met a women who was emphatic about me calling her the next day, and sure enough before i even had the chance to she called me!

If i were you i would first look into getting something from the instant line like IO, and A314 for everyday use and the TUTH or IJ for when your going out to a bar and club (i haven’t had any experience with the other instant products). A314 will help you look like you have a “higher value” and an alpha male vibe, it also makes you seem older then you are more established, and then with the IO you will seem more approachable at the same time. Just be careful on ODing with the none.

Thanks!!! I just ordered A314, IO, and TUTH !!!.. lets talk doses!! what should i start with??

I would start with low doses at first, if you do a search on finding your “sweet spot” you will find lots of advice on how much to use, so i would start with one drop or spray and work your way up to more if needed… probably the hardest thing for me to understand was the whole less is more concept, I’ve really had to try hard to restrain myself from oding each time i apply the mones!!!

What i have found works well for me at work is 2-3 drops of A314 applied behind my ears and along my jawline on each side then one split between my wrists, and 3 sprays of IO one to the back of the head and the others spread along each wrist (I’m in an job where i have to interact with many people different people a day so i like a high amount of IO to keep me talkative). Out to the club i typically use 3-4 drops of a314 same places as for work, 3-4 sprays of IO in again the same places (except the fourth spray to the back of the head), and 1-2 sprays of TUTH or IJ sprayed underneath my shirt to my chest. but again i would start with smaller doses first then work your way to your sweet spot (but this is also the fun of experimenting :slight_smile: )

Is that 3 sprays total?? for A314 1 drop spread behind both ears sound good for the first day?? will i notice anyhting…or should i start at 2 drops??

For what i wear to work that’s three sprays total for IO on the back of the neck and one on each arm. Its up to you on what to use since everyone’s chemistry is different following someone else doses could have different effects for you. That’s where you just have to go out and experiment. I’ll be honest this kind of an aggravating concept for me as well because I’m the type of person that wants to make the most out of every moment i have, but i have found the only way i can accomplish this (at least with the pheromone usage) is by experimenting, although i definitely read as many posts as possible and have been guilty of asking some pretty “dumb” questions.
But when it comes down to it you have to find out for yourself what works the best. Luckily there are many users in here that have faaaaarrrr more knowledge on the subject and are great at helping you zero in on what it is your looking for.

I think im gonna have fun with the experimenting…im curious to see the dif at school… also at clubs with TUTH :slight_smile:

Start slowly, with the normal dose first, then if already know your sweet spot just order higher dose and rock it out.

Yeah for sure!! Im already looking into my next order… what exactly does IFM do… and what in the wolrd is P74?? Space land sounds cool too!!

Honestly - I would stick with the consumer products for now and figure out how those work for you before going into the putatives.

I am not sure if FIM is currently available - long story about availability of key ingredient - but it helps women relax around you. It was great for those of us who are married or have SOs during “the curse” or even to combine with say TUTH when you go out clubbing.

My advice on what you have: A314 can give you a very heavy alpha vibe. As a result it can often create what I call “respect distance” - people will give you some room unless you initiate contact. To offset that - once you get a feel for how much A314 (ie how many drops) gives you what effects - then I would pair it with IO. It will help make the authority vibe a little more friendly. I personally use IH with it.

Another thing about using A314 at your age - it does not alway work well with women your age. Often Instant Gentleman goes a little better. Younger women tend to do better with the cool, smooth vibe IG gives off. They often seem to associate A314 with the vibe their dad or their dad’s boss gives off. However by the time they are in their mid-20s they have figured out that the alpha vibe often means leader or boss in whatever he does. And that means a guy who can often has a decent paycheck. Now am I saying they sit there and consciously think this - probably not but maybe. Does it all connect unconsciously? Yes.

Now for going out clubbing I would definitely go with a TUTH and IO combo. Start with one spray of TUTH and two of IO. Adjust from there. The more imposing you may seem to people due to size or physique - I would say use caution with upping the TUTH dose and maybe go to three with the IO. But experiment some and figure it out. I am only giving you guesses …

No I understand completely… in regards to A314… im thinking it will work well for me.. cuz I dont feel ppl respect as much as I would like… They liek to poke fun at me a bit to much when I want to be seriouse… It doesnt bother me… I jsut mean ppl say its fun to bother you… And by bother I mean tease lol… so all my girlfriends do this and best friends… Im also an Nat team member athlete… with little funding…A314 might help me get more funding and respect inb this case… Im also hoping Ill get the sexual effect of it.. here is why I think I would… In school and Clubs in montreal I generally observed that girls my age date anywhere from their gae group to 3-4 years older. more from 2-3… and im ussually around 20-23yr old at school… and clubs. Even 19yr olds date 2-3 years older… I want to give that successfull vibe…cuz I am…Im big and athletic too… ppl who know me…jsut get to comfortable with me… I want the Alpha male vibe that I deserve… Maybe its my fault… I give off a seriouse look… and I ussually initiate… and once I do… BAM! ppl get comfortable with me… but that because I act goofy and jk around with them a lot.. I got Instand openess to help with this is different social places..school included…because… It not alwasy easy to get interst…or get a convo going with the hotties I want lol… I also noticed…well we have a room for our program at school where we alll can go study bones and muscles and stuff…one day I walk in talk to a hottie through wtv nothing to special… next day I walk in alone and she almost reluctant to say hi.. so i must initiate..lol.. IO could help with them talking first right?? thats what Im hoping… Im also hoping It helps with the conversations… makes thay goign a bit longer… And I got TUTH for pure attraction…once I get a grip on A314 and IO… I might go with a low dose of TUTH… see how it works at school…and by low i mean 1 spray max… or maybe none at all… not sure of the effectr at school… I think my problems with respect are due to my personality…well its not rly a problem…I jsut want to get out of my friend zone status with some ppl… or avoid getting catagorized as one.

Next order IS, IH, spaceland (to go)

I understand what you are saying.

If you act goofy and always joking around then people will act like that with you also. And in some cases they may not want to take you seriously. so maybe that is something to tone down a little, esp. with people who are just getting to know you.

When using A314 though congruence becomes an important factor. Congruence means you are acting accordingly with the phero signature. Now if your phero signature says one thing and you are acting another way, people will react to your behavior rather than your phero signature. So if you wear the A314 that gives off a heavy leadership respect me vibe but act goofy, then people will react to the goofy and ignore the phero signature. There is a great thread about congruence by Renny. Find it and give it a read.

The IO will certainly help move conversations along but it will mostlikely still be up to you to start them and be decent enough a conversationslist to nudge them along. But the IO will certainly help them slide along much easier.

For your next order consider IH, IShine and Instant Gentleman. There is a thread in my signature block about IG. Give it a read. I am sort of a big guy and it has done well for me.

I act goofy becaus eits the only way I can get attention… I force myself to act like that…so i can definatly tone down on it lololol…thnx for the advice Im goign to look into IG… but i read somewhere that it contains no mones.

get a bottle of a314 oil, then try instant openness, instant shine, turn up the heat and instant honesty, all in to-go bottles. till then, you will get an idea what works for you… :wink: