Hey guys, just saying hello. im new to the forums but have been trying pheromones for a while now. just ordered a314, turn up the heat and a few others. so far i’v gotten some great hits off of the a314, 2 drops solo. and 2 sprays of turn up the heat solo. combined with 2 drops of a314 and 2 sprays o turn up the heat, its freaking great. i quote a female friend of mine with a boyfriend. " you need to stop wearing that colonge" i asked why? she replied because is smells too good. i then asked so whats the problem? its smells good, thats the point of it. she replies, but this one smells too good. this was with 2 sprays of turn up the heat. with the a314 on i get alot more attention frm the slightly older women. im 26 by the way. with a314 there is alot more eye contact, and women seem to be shy around me& somewhat nervous. i also tried instant honesty - didnt really get or see anything from that, if anything i felt a bit down with that on. same for ammo, i got a few hits with ammo but not as much as with the a314 and turn up the heat. im still somewhat new to all of this so any feedback would be great.
Hey Johnny!
Welcome to the forum!
Wow, you’ve started using pheros already! lol about the cologne and the girl asking you to stop wearing it (hahaha!)
Now, I don’t know alot about the pheros that guys use but you didn’t mention any instant line products? They’re great as well
instant shine is for mood uplifting, and instant openness is great for socializing, people will chat with you forever lol
Hold on, and keep on having fun!
LOL about smelling too good!
I agree of giving the instant line a try, I also like Instant Honesty for creating friendly atmosphere for deeper connections.
Hi Johnny, welcome to the forum.
Wearing that much -none, you’re asking for trouble. The A314 has -none in it, as does TUTH. If you come across the wrong male, he may decide to pick a fight with you for no reason. Not to mention, some women will run from that much -none. Be careful!
I absolutely agree with the ladies, you need some socials to take the edge off of all that -none. Instant Shine, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty will all work.
You should read the sticky threads in the Men’s section to learn about properly using these products.
Good luck.
Sounds good! I’ve learned a lot from what you’ve posted. Hopefully you won’t OD and be attacked!
On another note: Robbie, your abs ROCK!
Thanks for all the great feedback. hey robbie, i’m still new to all of this. it looks like im using too much none, the best mix that works for me so far is 2 drops a314 and 2 sprays of turn up the heat. it sounds like that is a bit much. im gonna try a little less and see how that works, maybe 1 or each, or 1 drop a314 and 2 sprays of turn up the heat. i’ve got an order of instand openness and instand shine on the way. any feedback in regards to how much to use would be greatly appreciated.
instead of 1 drop a314 and 2 sprays turn up the heat, i’d try 2 a314 and 1 turn up the heat and then when you get the shine and openness add those in.
reading through some threads it seems like you want to keep the turn up the heat low
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk
You are using alot of anone for your age.
AMMO has the same amount as TUTH but its buffered to give a less harsh reaction and its has more depth to it.
IH, I cant really say why your not getting the reaction until I know how you used it.
A314 ups your status, look for more respectiful treatment. People looking to you to lead. Listening to what you have to say more. Its not big on drawing them in. It has more of a awe effect do when you approach it ups your status.
You need to balance out what you wear and find your dosage.
I suggest you get more socials like IO Ishine, maybe some IFM
Take a look in the mens tipsd section on how to use and test the products correctly so you get the best benefit from them.
Your GC is on its way 
Tish
thanks again for all the great advise guys.. as you can tell im fairly new, i didnt even realized i posted in the women’s section, well thats what it appears to be. not that it matters, i always welcome advise from the ladies. my order of instant shine, instant openness should be here this week. i also have instant female magic, tried it a few times, 1 spray, didnt really notice anything except that i felt a bit down, tried 2 sprays same, felt even more down. i stopped using it because of that.
im goal here is to be a bit more sexually attractive, thats why i opted for a314 and turn up the heat, but from what i can tell so far i have alot to lean as i’ve been using too much none. any advise on what a good mix or stand alone production is for the sexual attraction, but dont want to over do it, want to ladies to feel like they can approach me and talk but yet they wont be able to resist me. lol, . also what about p79, i read it would work well with a314,turn up the heat combined. also TAL, any feedback on that one. i’ve been doing alot of reading on alot of the products out there, there are so many its hard to decide which ones to go with. once my package arrives next week, i will have, a314, turn up the heat, ammo(got it free) instant honesty(got it free) instant female magic, instant shine, instant openess and p79. dont know if i will get any more free samples with this order.. i think i have enough there to last a while.
Hi there Johnny V. I like P79 a lot myself. It does seem to have the effect of making a little amount of other pheros go a long way, like if you just had 1 drop of A314, 1 spray of TUTH… etc, and you added say 5-7.5 mcg P79, it should in some respects act like a much heavier mix but without some of the drawbacks that a heavier dose of pheros can bring. It is very interesting in that respect.
Oh yeah I’m getting quite interested in TAL too. It is largely viewed as a female pheromone but I have read a few threads now from men trying it out, again in small doses, say 2.5-5 mcg, with interesting results, in combo with the traditionally masculine pheros like -none and -rone…
LOL Your not in the womens section. Its Sunday, football is on. The ladies are on the computers and most the men are watching the games LOL.
I know your looking for a sexual reaction. Most men are when they come here and go for the masculine mones. I have alot of experience and training in mone use. As well as on going training in influence and human interaction. Do not over look the power of the social mone. You can get a sexual response from them just as fast if not faster then the highly masculine mones.
Men and women are different.
Men are visual, they see something they like and they become aroused, they become sexual and then after sex they may or may not connect with the person. Sex makes men feel closer to women.
Women are emotion driven, they see something they like, they become aroused, (here is where we differ) The look for that comfortable connected intimate feeling, then they act on arousal and have sex. Sex doesn’t make us feel closer, its how we share the close feeling we already feel.
Without the feelings of connection and comfort you can use all the masculine mones you want but you wont get the reaction your looking for as frequently as you would by using some good social or comfort mixes with them. Sure they will work some but we strive to get them working to there maximum effectiveness here.
You can get more perspective from the men down in the mens tips and tricks section 
Have fun
Tisha
If you like the results from the mix stay with it. We all react to pheromones differently and that is why we need to test a bit to find what is right for each of us. If you’ve found something good, don’t give it up because others say it doesn’t work for them.
The rone and other chemicals in a314 are actually good buffers for anone. They will allow you to wear more anone than you would otherwise get away with.
No one is telling him to stop using A314 and TUTH. Those have worked well for him. We are saying that there is more to mone use then the Heavy masculine mones and he could achieve even more results by making his mone arsenal more balanced and versatile.
There is also the excessive use of anone and build up to consider leading to the OD effect. By making his arsenal more versatile he can help avoid that and still use mones daily if he chooses to.
Yes I agree but look at the list he is considering. All of the heavy masculines. I think even you would agree it needs more balance.
Tisha
Even me? We wraiths are known for being unballanced.
Bwa ha ha ha
To learn and get ideas from the experiences of others is good. That is what gives humans an advantage over most other lifeforms, except wraiths. However, it is not positive when someone begins to discount their own experience, which in the case of pheromone reactions is actually more valuable than the advice.
Who knows, perhaps this user is producing significant ammounts of “socials” on his skin naturally. Or perhaps there is some other difference we don’t know of that accounts for the positive reactions he has actually observed.
Nobody has told Johnny to discount his own experience, but I did suggest he use some caution, Because 1) he’s a beginner and has no idea how his dose wil affect a wide range of people and 2) just because beginner’s luck has been with him so far, the odds of that always happening is kinda slim.
Gone, perhaps you missed Jasmine’s comments about using TUTH on a daily basis (in inapropriate situations) and not wanting to contribute to society’s pollution. Maybe I’m wrong, but I feel part of the job of forum members who greet new members is to educate them that there is some implied responsibilty when using these products. Otherwise, we see posts like thisand this.
Johnny, you asked me to recommend a dosage for you. I do agree with Gone that everyone is different. So let’s turn to a guy who is an expert along with Tisha. It may be not as thrilling to do, but I suggest you follow Steve’s advice in this thread: How to find your sweet spot....
Johnny, the issue is, you don’t know who you’re gonna meet when you’re out in public. And some people may still have a negative reaction when you’re wearing the dosage that is your sweet spot. Many people won’t have a problem at all. That’s because… everybody’s different!
Robbie,
Nope. Didn’t miss it. In fact I quoted it a couple of days ago in the thread where I explore ethical implications of pheromone use.
Interesting thoughts by both Jasmin and you. My interpretation may differ from yours. I tend not to lay down rules, but rather ask people to consider things from various angles. Rules are rigid and may be inappropriate when applied without knowing the details of a situation.
Your warnings have value even if they are not interpreted as rules though. They do give new users an idea of possible negative effects to watch out for. They may miss those if they were only focused on the positive effects.
Peace be with you,
Hey guys, once again thank you for the great response. i appreciate it all. just an update. i think im experiencing some of that none build up. i dont know, i’ve been in a really crappy mood for the last few days, yesterday more irritable, today more down than angry. yesterday i tried 2 drops a 314 and 1 spray of tuth, trying to reduce the amount of none, but that didnt seem to work well. today my order of the rest of pheros came. i decide to try 2 sprays of tuth, 2 sprays of ins.openness, 2 sprays of instant shine, 2 sprays of p79. i assumed i over did it with that. i think tomorrow i will competly stay away from none, i’ll solo with instant openness and see how that works. im not quite sure, but i read in some other threads, for attraction i should try instant openness + instant shine, with a small amount of tuth. how much is a small amount? im not quite sure about this but it appears that i need a higher level of none. i saw reactions when i used 2 spays of tuth solo. i assue i need a higher level of none because i’m not really the alpha male type, i hate to admit it but its true i gu reaess. i’m 5’7" 150lbs. im pretty muscular/fit but women can’t really tell unless i take off my shirt. just from looking at me i assue they think im just another skinny guy. maybe thats why the higher levels of none work for me. as for my personality, im somewhat shy but once the ice is broken im pretty easy to talk to, i get along with everyone, im not aggressive neither passive, dont really get annoyed or let things bug me, i get along great with women, im usually the best friend, that is why i’m looking for the pheros for attraction, im want to be looked at as more than just a friend or best friend. i’ll continue to test the different pheros, i’ll try to go more on the social side with a little none, maybe 1 spray tuth. i guess the only way for me to determine what works is for me to keep testing. i’ll continue to post and keep you guys posted. once again thank you for all your feedback, being new to this stuff your advise and guidance is greatly appreciated. oh, i read that you can’t od on the social pheros, like instant shine or instant openness. is this true? what about the effects of instant openness and instant honesty on the wearer? i assume if it causes the opposite sex to be open and honest, would it not have the same effect on its wearer?