heavy on -nol = headache?

I put 2 ml of SoE on me today and had lightheaded feeling, lack of concentration, although I noticed a mood lifting effect - in the way I wouldn’t care about anything anymore.

But for people’s reactions, they were very chatty. Too many talks and gave me headaches. Good thing was that I could control my mouth to remain shut.

I’m still feeling stoned after 12 hours of application. :smiley:

lol I had the same reaction, I was higher than a kite it seemed like. I wore about 50 mcg if I remember correctly, I do it every now and then just to get the feeling (I sound like a druggy :roll_eyes: :smiley: ). I noticed people being more chatty, and some quiet, loner type people start to open up somewhat.

That’s 20% of the 10ml in the bottle!

Well hell 2ml I would be flying like a kite (snort)

So do you think the nols gave you a headache or the people. Thats the one draw back with some socials. They really work LOL

If you feel you got the headache from the mones your body will become acclimated to them and that will pass.

The people you will just have to tolerate :wink:

Tisha

1 ml has 0.4mg-nol and 0.1mg of -rone if I remember correctly.

Btw, the DHL guy arrived yesterday. :smiley:
He was the first to show me that it worked by kept speaking faster and faster to the point I couldn’t understand anymore. Ha ha.

The middle-aged guy on the train looked at me now and then. High school girl eyed me and moved closer - I was looking at the reflection on the mirror so I know. I intentionally made an eye contact. It was about 1-2 secs before she looked down. Whoa, was that an IOI?

Then my head is messed up and don’t have a clear memory of anything after this. Except that all my appointments yesterday talked like there won’t live another day. Many physical contacts and laughs.

Both! :smiley:
I got a real headache after 1 hour of application and noticed a messed up memory. I also found that I had hyper-awareness in the same time, which flooded my head with every sound. Pain…

Hmm, back in the day I oft used massive androstenol doses for kicks (couple gel packs of SOE or many zaps of chemset alpha -nol). Felt slightly hyper at first but don’t recall any headaches or memory loss. USually didn’t feel much of anything. Was entertaining observing the motormouth, airhead comments and DIHL moments.

The nearest thing to your–“I also found that I had hyper-awareness in the same time, which flooded my head with every sound”–experience actually was with Molecule F. It made me extremely intolerant of pitch fluctuations and other musical minutia. I’m a music professor and conductor so that wasn’t really a good thing (distracting/irritating).

Gegogi, what dose of TAF were you using when you had that reaction?

I don’t know, Gegogi. That’s what happened. Even now, I’m still not able to recall anything much. It was one fine day that I had no stress, nothing, in my mind at all but a headache, not severe but distracting. About the sound, I don’t have a clue as well.

ah you finally OD’d on soe eh? :slight_smile: told ya you’ll get hits.

sorry about your headache, I think your body will adjust itself next time.

About 4 sprays of TAF did the trick every time. A couple more would intensify if slightly but more didn’t seem to make much diff. Other than noticing too many musical details–missing the forest for the trees sorta thing–TAF didn’t do much else for me. I used most of a 30 ml bottle at work and running around. I didn’t care much for it as a standalone but it might prove effective integrated into another product.

was that 4 sprays of 2.5mcg, 5mcg, 7.5mcg, 12.5mcg…?

Hey, LT. It did work the magic like you said. But it should take sometime for me to get used to it.

15 mcg. Sorry, I didn’t know they came in different strengths.

Guess you won’t be doing that again any time soon! :smiley:
Yeah, androstenol can be veeeeery buzzzzzzy…and too much, especially before you become accustomed to it, can give you a screamin’, hammerin’ throbbin’ headache…kinda like a hangover, only you don’t have to wait till the ‘morning after’… :stuck_out_tongue:
The other ‘down side’ of androstenol hyperdrive, though sometimes fun if you’re in the mood for it… is the nonestopnonsensicalyabberblabber you also got a good dose of…LOL
You’ve been officially christened!
Just out of curiousity, kevio, where did you apply it…all?

Uh…you can get hits on a lot less…next time try less and you should be fine. One gel pack is plenty for me.
Interesting thing about pheromones to consider, often less is more…and may get you more of what you’re looking for… :cool: …and you’ll be cognizant!
…or you can just carry your head in a bag.

Good luck and carry on!

Bella :wink:

Whoa, Nelly! 60mcg?
I maxed out at 3 sprays TAF/12.5mcg.
Distracted, check…annoyed, you betcha…intolerant…ah…yeah…from being annoyed and distracted! No focus there…and the sound?
I could here my neighbor snoring…every freakin’ tick of the clock…wrong kinda ‘focus’, for me!
Yes, I find a lower dose, added to a mix, much more effective.
Under different circumstances…music sounded, somehow, just right…'course I wasn’t ‘in concert’ (or maybe I was? :smiley: ) either way I stacked the disc player myself. :wink:

  • Just out of curiousity, kevio, where did you apply it…all?

*Since it was a cold day. I applied it all on my neck area, mainly behind my ears. It took sometime to let it dry and felt sticky.

ah, no wonder the headache lol. :slight_smile:

That’s what I thought, too much applied too close to your face. No wonder you felt sticky and icky! :stuck_out_tongue:
I understand what you mean about living in a cold climate, at this time of year, so do I. Not much exposed skin to apply to.
If you’d like to avoid that effect next time, use less and try the maestro’s method… spread it out…a little on your neck and maybe behind your neck, so it’s not so close to your face… a bit further down on your chest, it will still waft up and diffuse out, but won’t whack you so much…your inner wrists…and the back of your hands.
Like I said, you’ll still get hits and you’ll be able to enjoy them!

Bella :wink:

Thanks, Bella.

I plan to use 1ml for the next time and some Edge.

Btw, I recently received IS and A314. I still haven’t found my sweet spot for A314. IS is between 2-3 sprays. More than that and I will smell like orange peels.

My questions are; can I apply SoE with A314? Or should I try it with IS?

:smiley: Many thanks