Heh - Hit Report

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lol thanks Saraunne!

So I think next time I experiment on him - i’m going to keep everything the same, except I will swap out Edge gel for TAL. I don’t know if it was the cops in my hair, or the edge that totally put him into heat. I guess we’ll find out. I can’t very well have him constantly in that mode. It would be unmanageable, considering i don’t intend to get physical until i have more information.

What i would like tho - is that same intensity of attraction, with the lust turned down to a pleasant simmer.

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I don’t know how you do it. :o

And it sounds like you’ve been managing him just fine. :wink: Though, I know what you mean.

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hee hee - thanks! it’s funny tho - but another part of turning the heat down is that in a way he was too focused on me the other night to really hustle. can’t have that being constant. I need my money piles to be big. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Hah! So you’re a thoughtful vixen. Even better. :smiley:

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you know - i saw this thread and it made me think of that night.

he totally turned into my zombie, and i’m not sure that’s what I want, all the time.

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i’m just going to use this as my running thread on this particular episode.

so i got talked into going there again last night, by one of my escorts. he was having a bad day, and needed my energy apparently, and so the plan was to go have drinks and just chill. I told him about the last encounter and we decided to play that off.

I decided this time, to wear the 2 drops cleo, even tho, i’m not in the right place in my cycle. I put a dab of edge in my cleavage, and 2 sprays of undoctored b-Androstenol to the back of my neck. and then i had a little pcc accident. I took the rollerball off, and the idea is to put just a dab in the palm of my hands and rub it through my hair. well somehow i managed to get a puddle in the palm of my hand. I got most of it back in the bottle, but there was still more than a dab in my palm. I rubbed it through my hair anyway. Covered everything with Pink Sugar.

Interestingly i didn’t feel weepy with the cops this time. But i’m on my cycle now, so I’m not sure if it will ramp up as i get closer to ovulation, or if perhaps the weepiness is all contextual. I’m going to have experiment more through this month. I also didn’t feel as “on” as I typically feel with cleo.

Anyways - i go in, and my boy is doing a stageset. I find my friend, we get to talking and so forth and just hanging out. The Boy comes and finds me when he’s done, and he’s happy to see me, and gives me a hug. I think it was definitely the Edge near my earlobes that was tweaking him last time, because he was far more in control of himself this time. Still touchy and huggy, but no dopey grin, and no need for a kiss every five minutes. sadly he didn’t give me any of his money this time either. :roll_eyes:

But what happened last time definitely affected him enough to change how we are for the time being. It’s like he sat up and took notice. Whereas in the past - yeah we were flirty and all that, it was just superficial, and now he’s sorta taking me seriously. Eventually he found me by myself, and came over and held me, and was just like “you’re a really cool chick. we’ve known each other for a long time huh? like years…you’re really cool” and then we sat for a bit and watched the fish in the tank behind me and just enjoyed each other’s company, giggling about the fish and whatnot.

A little while later he came back, sat down and pulled me to him, and asked me to scratch his back. one of those little nurturing grooming gestures, i guess. Anyway i did that for a little bit, but apparently what he really wanted was just my arms wrapped around his neck - we chatted more, and he kind of snuggled in, and then he says “i really want you”. I had nothing to say to that really, so I ignored it, and then he said it again, but i’m not entirely sure what my response was supposed to be so i ignored it again :open_mouth: .

That was the other thing with the cleo tonight, i wasn’t as ballsy as I usually am with it, not able to keep things light and witty and combative. or maybe our vibe has changed and gotten a little deeper, and the environment isn’t really conducive to the honest and open conversation it’s prolly time we had. Anyways - when i didn’t acknowledge a second time, he just dropped his head to my chest and let me hold him.

this is pretty much how it went all night - he didn’t lose the need to have me as his touchstone, but it also wasn’t a compulsion. Everytime he came over there was some “qualifying” question or the other to figure out just how available I am. it’s funny all these people saw us going through our thing - and most of them were like “holy sht you better go get some of that, he’s fckin hot!” and he is the most beautiful boy in there, if i may so myself. sadly I wish i were that easy. But with him i can’t be.

with my other friends it was also not quite the manic interaction we usually have. Much mellower, but also quite a bit of truthiness in places. Thanks b-Androstenol! The Instant Honesty tagline is right - you really won’t believe your ears. :open_mouth:

So anyways - my friends and i all went our seperate ways shortly before closing - I couldn’t find the boy to say goodbye, but it’s just as well, maybe i need to leave him hanging a little bit. So i get home, and there’s a call from my friend who had asked me to come out. Turns out at some point in the evening he decided to approach the boy and ask him what his intentions were for lack of a better phrase.

Apparently there’s something about me that really does it for him, and it’s more than just physical. And he’s kinda really getting into me, but isn’t sure how to make that work.

I’m taking all this with a grain of salt - since it’s coming second hand, and the boy really doesn’t know my friend at all, except as my escort for the evening, to be delving into his personal business. It could totally have been engineered to get back to me. As I told my friend - I know i’m a piece of work, if he’s up for it, he’ll do what’s necessary, if he’s not he’ll weed himself out. I really would hate for him to weed himself out tho. I like this one - i could see myself taking him seriously.

So now that I’ve recapped - what are y’all’s thoughts on my next move? I’m open to any and every tactic you can suggest, whether it be words, pheros or actions. Even withdrawal if that’s what’s necessary. love is war. :stuck_out_tongue:

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now that we are clear that you are in love :slight_smile:

i didnt know what to say before because we have opposite taste in men.
i could only learn something there :stuck_out_tongue:

but here,ahhhh now i have something to say.

quit seeing him there.

make it so that he is nolonger on his turf.
he is right now seeing you where there isnt a vulnerability in the world-

he is seeing you where
a. he knows women think he’s hot
b. the type of women that would think he’s hot go there to see him
c.competition for your attention wont be there
d.he doesnt feel he has to work for your attention.

all of these facts ensure he is in complete control in his eyes.

place him where he is not.

then post about it :slight_smile:

this i would subscribe to hear.

i do not get off on deflating a man’s ego;without a challenge there is no attraction.
i only wish to hear that he is more challenged. :wink:

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haha - i totally agree. it needs to move off of home-turf - but i’m trying to push it to that point, without appearing to. He knows me going there has jack-all to do with him. That precedent was set a long long time ago. So whether he’s there or not, i’d still be going there, because it’s the hangout for my friends and i. We aren’t there to check out hot boys, we’re there to hang out in a place that happens to have hot boys as decoration. lol

and yeah - on the love thing - not quite full-blown, but he’s got the type of personality that puts him in the “yeah i could prolly fall for ya” category. Now i’ve got to push those boundaries. it’s my nature.

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girl, i need to hang wit yous :stuck_out_tongue:

its true though that when a gal hangs out in a place where she is accustomed to a certain style of guy, all others pale in comparison.

i assume this every time i talk to a man.

it not at all that i percieve myself as having lower value to say someone who is outrageously beautiful or extremely talented;

its being in your element and shining where you are that creates that percieved value.

i guess i bring this up because i think your situation would be enhanced by being the one the spotlight is on :wink:

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oh hon - trust me - the spotlight is on me. Oddly enough - that is where I shine. which of course is what hooked me in the first place. to be totally sarcastic, in that place, “i’m kind of a big deal”. lol

i know what you are saying about being accustomed to a certain kind of guy now. I totally am. I find guys in regular bars to be a turnoff - mainly because they don’t know how to respect boundaries. stipperboys tend to be ultra-sensitive to that.

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and guys that i meet in regular life - i don’t know - it’s been a long time since i’ve met a guy in regular life. There was this one guy i met at the gym who was able to throw his legs behind his head. he was impressed with the abwork i was doing. But i never crossed paths with him again. i think i’ve gotten throughly spoiled. i require a decent body, a good face, and a GREAT personality that meshes with my own. that’s hard to find in general. at least at the club, 2 out of 3 is sorted.

and i have to admit, going there has done wonders for my mindset. i have a much cooler confidence now, and i’ve gotten stronger, and at the same time more open-minded.

nothing but good things.

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This is so interesting to me, because it is so nothing like I would think. Proof again (don’t know how many times I need it) that you just never know anything about anything until you experience it. Fascinating. Anyway, while the behavior may not have been so overt, it was certainly even more interesting than before. I think I like him better this way :slight_smile: Not that what I like matters! But if it were me, I’d hold on to that combo you tried.
How come he can’t just call you up, go to lunch, see a movie, take a walk? Next time he says he wants you, ask him what part, lol. What does he do when he isn’t working? I would think he would like to kickback some, being in such a high-energy party atmosphere for work.

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haha vkat! I like him better ths way too. he was too under my control when the little head was in charge.

as for why he can’t do that - your guess is as good as mine - if he truly wants me, he’ll do it. But there’s a lot of time pressure, and social pressure it’s not really a gig that lends itself to dating anyone that’s not also a stripper i think, simply because of the hours and some of the psychological stuff that comes with. Plus you need to be with a person that’s confident enough to not take the job personally. and those people are very few and far between.

I’ve had dancers pursue me outside before - we usually wound up just being friends tho, because for whatever reason, they just weren’t for me. He’s one of the elite tho - and his game is at a different level. He’s gotta deal with stalkers and psychos, so that lends itself to a lot of boundary-setting. I like him enough that i want to push those boundaries without being too intrusive.

from some of the other stuff my friend found out (btw - he did that on his own - i had no idea, and i’m not entirely sure i like it, but he was looking after my best interests) i think The Boy’s concerns are also about context. We know each other through that environment, which on certain levels is glitzy and glam and superficial, and it’s much different then us as real people. I totally admit to being part of the scene - my workaday self is clark kent, my night time self is superman. I’m sure it’s the same for him, except flipped, since he is at work. I think there is an element of fear of the letdown when we’re out of the context we met in.

i guess maybe at some point i’ll need to let him know it’s not the pretty exterior i find compelling. nor the superstar entertainer. what i find most compelling is how he is when it’s just he and i hanging out and talking. and it’s always been that way.

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Ha! That’s it, in a nutshell, I think you have you have it right there.

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gah i wanted to give you rep points vkat for always being so supportive, and being able to pull out the good stuff from my ramblings, but i have to share the wealth. :frowning:

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Maybe because he was turned down when he asked you out, or expressed his desires ?

I think you like him a little, so I’d say it is your turn. Go ahead and ask him out, find out if you actually do like him, or he is not what you thought he is.

Call me forward, but that always worked for me.

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Mak you are dead on. i did a little hit and run tonight to square things up with him, on the advice of a very wise person. i gave myself a few big hits of b-nol and went for broke.

this didn’t have anything to do with him not calling, but he did feel like i just keep denying him and denying him. so i told him what’s really going on with me and why i’m doing that, and he totally respected it, and asked for my number (he forgot i gave it to him last week…crackhead), and wants to hang out sometime - even if it’s just friends. so i gave it to him, and he gave me another major IOI. I told him not till he proved himself first. After some negotiation, we’ve settled on a few dinners at chik-fil-a. :wink:

I like bnol on myself. I felt like i was able to say what i needed to say without any sort of anxiety stuff holding me back. cool toy! we’ll see if he follows throught his time. it’s interesting one thing he said to me, was that he doesn’t have many friends, let alone female friends, which is kind of par for the course with his occupation - and it would be cool to have soemone to do stuff with. i think this ties back to the conversation he had with my friend last night. apparently my friend said if he wants to get to know me better, he should just aks me to go shopping with him at Wal-mart or something. lol

whatever - i’m feeling good about it at this point - he’s cool people if nothing else, if he can handle me being honest and direct with him.

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so i’ve got a whole new batch of goodies waiting for me to experiment with, including the possible sexmix from a previous thread (bnol, TAH, p79), and the timing is actually perfect. :slight_smile:

i’ll report on the boy as i make discoveries.

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so someone wanted an update on this…me and SB are good friends at this point. We did experiment with each other, but I prefer him as my friend, and I believe he does too. We just had something we needed to work out of our systems and we’re actually closer and more emotionally intimate with each other because of it.

And this leads me to a theory on pheros.

He and I had been friends for a long long time - I think using edge with him gave us both a false ugency to a desire we were better off sublimating. when it came down to it, we work better as friends then lovers. and perhaps that’s due to our own natural pheromonal signatures. I know for me the way i feel most comfortable with him, phero-free - is more of a familial feeling than one of a sex partner. i still like climbing into his lap and talking about life, but now the need to take it any further than that is irrelevant. And i think that was Nature’s message.