Hello, an open skeptic, trying A314 and IS, help needed.

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So, I’ve recently purchased IS, and A314 in the instant versions to test out.

Not sure about my results from IS. I’m a bit skeptical that something can improve one’s mood. I have been using it the majority of the week. I have mixed feelings about it. I know that about 30% of the population is susceptible to placebo effects. On top of that Neroli is said to have similar benefits on mood. If something can positively affect my day I don’t mind it. I just want more clinch results. However this really seems to be a bit subjective. If I’m looking for more interactions, psychologically I’m going to make more interactions and so forth. I’m just not sure.

That being said, I don’t mind the smell, and its not doing anything negative to me. So I’m good with IS right now. I’ll spend more time testing on it.

Anyway, I’ll clarify what I want out of these. I want to be more noticeable in my contacts with people. I mean, we’d all love to be able to have that magic potion to give us confidence to get those who out of our league to see us a little bit more.

My problem is, I really do not like the smell of A314. I’m not really willing to tell people about this experiment of mine, and I don’t want to ask if I smell too strongly. Has anyone gotten comments about that? My workplace is not super scent friendly, and I don’t want something that I don’t like to be filling other people’s nostrils all day long. Basically I don’t want to be the smelly dbag at work.

And personally me feeling less confident about stinking up the place doesn’t really help the cause I’m going for with a314 you know? I just have no perspective about how strongly I smell. I don’t want to stank up a room. I just want a light scent.

So I wore some (1x spray A314 + 2-3 IS) @ then did an extra spray of A314 on my wrists around 12pm, covered it with 1x IS to wrist and 1x IS to chest. And then desperately tried to cover it up with a light light natural essential oil cologne I have. I added because I knew I would have to be with people until late in the evening. And by the end of the night I STILL could smell the A314 wafting on my wrists, especially when I was next to some people who I really enjoy and wouldn’t mind getting closer with. Do women really like this stuff?

Mostly, I just don’t want people to silently be like WTF are you doing wearing cologne. I know they’re too nice to say something about me smelling too strongly, and I feel like overpowering people with scent is too scarring on a budding work relationship.

Anyway, we all have run into that person who clearly has sprayed on too much perfume/cologne. I just want people to maybe smell it if they’re really close to me, and obviously, I’m really close to me all the time, so I can’t tell the blast radius of this stuff. So can someone who’s used this stuff for awhile give me a clue? I would really appreciate it.

Going off of that, would I be able to get the same benefits of A314, with something else like IG? Because I would totally do that neroli all day long IF I thought it could be as effective, but I don’t see that in the reviews? It’s nice and inoffensive, but I really want to bring the A314 effectiveness to my work environment also.

Help!

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Hey there jx1234!
Welcome to the forums, and I have to say, good luck with your testing. Although I haven’t yet tried a314, I HAVE used ammo, which is said to be some pretty strong stuff! From my humble experiences, 1-2 sprays is plenty in terms of the smell. Also, I know A314 is supposed to have some self-effects as well (lol or maybe it’s just placebo… time will tell), so good application points might be 1 spray on your lower neck/upper chest and a dab behind each ear. That should keep the scent in check. If that’s not strong enough, you can always work your way up on the dosage. I would also recommend telling the forum a bit about yourself to get your GC.
Good luck, and make sure to tell us your experiences!
Some of the phero-veterans will be around soon to give some better advice and share their own experience.

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You seem very skeptical. What’s your hope with pheromones? You seem way more concerned about the smell than about the pheromones actually working. Having tried both A314 and IS, neither are that strong. How much are you using?

For A314 let it air out a bit. Don’t spray it 10 seconds before you go into work. Because it seems like you would benefit from self effects just use it on your neck and jawline area. That will make sure no one gets a big whiff unless they are very close to you.

Pheromones work. As a regular user and fan of pheromones, it’s hard to read when new users flat out say they don’t work. Or it’s a placebo effect. Or it’s all in your mind. The sheer number of users and reports on this forum should logically lead you to believe otherwise. Trust me, not that many of us are drinking any kind of koolaid, especially one that has the price tag of pheromones. So rest assured they do work.

My friendly advice to you is to use one pheromone at a time. The effects of IS, while subtle, are the most consistent IMO. From some of what you wrote below it seems like you just keep spraying and spraying and spraying. At some point there is OD. Two to three sprays of IS should do. And wear the personality to match. You were right about one thing, pheromones are not a magic potion. There’s a few people that I dislike professionally, spray all the IS you want on them and I’m still not going to do business with them. Feel me? Put on some IS and a smile and see if people don’t interact with you more. The smile may make them comfortable enough to approach you, and IS will keep them in a friendly conversation with you. As far as A314, wear it and then walk around like you just got laid.

I tend to ramble, but my genuine advice is to keep an open mind, and try the pheromones out. Be sure to shower between using them (of course), and don’t use them every single day. It’s that easy. :slight_smile:

Until next time…

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What else should I add-27, from the US (upper midwest). Work in a fairly scentfree environment. It’s not explicitly said no scent and I tend to wear an extremely light cologne/body spray (no axe or old spice), which the receptionist at my work, she’s commented “I thought I smelled your scent in the building, you just always have this scent about you…its not a bad or anything, just you”. So that made me realize scent is important- it’s a signature and people notice. Already I’ve been messing around with what I wear with people because-the scent connection to memory is the strongest. So I’m just trying to be aware of my radius of scent. I probably would be testing at work and possibly going out for drinks for happy hour a few times a month. I work with a significant majority of already open/extroverted women, and I’m a deep introvert, so IO or IH would be a hilarious experiment- but also deeply terrifying. Hah.

I probably go out to a few times a month otherwise, depending. Personally-I’d like the confidence boost, the self effects, I supervise a few people and would definetly benefit to have that “respect” but also wouldn’t mind sparking the interest of my peers in the process. I spend about 70%-30%with my staff and my peers respectively each week. I have no interest in macking on my staff, and definitely would feel inappropriate having a really strong “attractant scent” with my clientelle.

Did I really just say attractant scent?

Do they work? We’ll see…

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Adding a little P75 to IG will up its impact in the direction of A314 but its not an alternative as A314 remains one of the more complex and oft-immitated but never quite replicated status products out there.

More that IG/P75 is something that a younger guy who may not be congruent with an A314 signature can use effectively instead as a halfway stage. I would suggest starting with just one spray 2.5mcg P75 - you don’t need a lot of this one. :slight_smile:

Alternatively, why not try A314 oil instead? - Although its scent is distinctive, it settles very light, very quickly to no sronger than a light soap and is fully usable in no/low-scent environments like medical/scientific.

Oil also lasts much longer per application, is more subtle in effect in the professional sphere and works-out far more cost effective for long-term use. I far prefer it over sprays.

All that leaves is the IS/any other mones but if you apply a bit earlier, it should have settled better by the time you get into work.

Lastly, A314 and IO in the same mix - bad idea IMO. These two counteract each other very effectively - to the point where its a complete waste of pheros.

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Thanks Mobocaster, Terabithia (I remember that book), and Fiddler 17.

I am really interested in continuing with these “tests” should I call them that. Been reading around, checking out journals, thinking of starting one of my own. It seems everyone has their own intentions with these.

It seems that things change with those who you’ve been around a lot very little, or its hard to notice, so I believe I should be doc’ing the self note first. All in all it really doesn’t hurt to keep mental tabs of your day anyways, from a mental health standpoint.

Apologies in advance-It’s been forever since I’ve used forums, probably since I was 17 or so. I’ve forgotten how to add direct quotes. Rusty on my HTML.

I think you may be correct Terabithia that I may have overloaded a little for a start.

Mobocaster-I applied some A314 to my neck as suggested, and I noticed its scent less, either through olfactory fatigue or easier disbursement and felt less irritated by the scent.

Last night:

I did note some possible, odd personal effects after- I read in forum about another’s observation of themselves seeming to have a more protruding jawline. That happens to me sometimes when I feel more confident in myself, I find my perspective changes. So perhaps some underlying confidence was budding when I went out to use it last evening. Perhaps some more focus after about 15 minutes.

What I did notice was an interesting grouping. I went out with my friends of a long time, both female from college. There were two other guys that came with us, one who I had never met and another who I met once, for a brief time. Generally in this situation, it was a special evening celebration for the female friend of mine, and in this instance I would have generally stuck around them going out for the night. As I said, I am introverted, and have been working on coming out of my shell, I’ll hold my own at times, but usually in this bar, of a music choice I dislike, I would hang near the people I knew. I’m shorter 5ft6 and in the lower weight range. I’m not usually the type to have a really dominant presence or personality by any means. (Least of all alpha, I’ll be blunt. I hope that maybe the slightly awkward nerdy deep thinker is the draw that most women/people have to me.)

Instead, more guys and women that they knew (who I had never met) began to show up, and I found that I was clustered in the middle a group of guys along with the two others I met earlier, while the girls went off with their socializing for a majority of the night, and besides from having a long conversation about our work and jobs, we all just kind of stood there. As the night wore on the cluster dissipated. That’s somewhat unusual. I have a hard time emphasizing the unusual aspect of this situation, to me when thrown into a random event its hard to know what could be at play. Because it is, well random.

I do wonder- about the use of P75, and am interested in hearing more about the effects and would like to understand more about what you mean about the “may not be congruent” bit you were talking about. Namely, like I said, and as you may well suspect, I could be struggling to project the alpha personality that may be more congruent with A314? Am I on par with what you were meaning by that?