First tries of IS and A314: friend seemed overly excited to see me, placebo or not?

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I just got some IS, p91, a314, and p74. All sprays.

I wore IS for the first time last night when I went to a friends house and one of my friends visiting from Texas was there and it might have been placebo and/or the fact that she hadn’t seen me in a while, but I felt that she was overly excited to see me. Also, another guy was there who I don’t normally get along with and he was being a little nicer than usual, but again, that may have been placebo. I was in a pretty good mood, although I don’t care much for self effects, I’d rather see how people act around me.

I tried a314 today to go help my friends mom set up her music for her birthday party she’s having (I used to be a DJ). I just wanted to test it out, and nothing really seemed too different. My friend was there, and he’s kind of a douche, and he didn’t treat me any different at all. a314 is the one I really, really had high hopes for.

I only tried p91 with IS, haven’t tried it as a stand alone, and I haven’t tried p74 at all yet cause I wanted to see a314 work its magic.

I put on one full spray of IS to my wrist and rub it together, and then one spray on my hair.

I put on one full spray of a314 to my wrists also and one full spray on my neck to spread it down from my ears to my adam’s apple.

So here are my questions:

How much of this is placebo you think?

What are some signs I should be looking for (from experienced users) when I put on a314?

What about IS?

Do you think my expectations for it to work might have been too high?

What are the best places to put a314 and IS?

Do people you see on a regular basis treat you a bit different when you’re using pheromones, or is the real money with making a first impression?

What are the best places in your experience to put on IS and a314, and how many sprays would you RECOMMEND for each pheromone?

I believe in the science between pheromones and I understand they won’t make people fall in love with you, I know they’re good for making first impressions. I just want to know what I’m doing wrong, because I feel like the effects have been less than subtle.

Thank you!

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Oookay, one at a time:

  • Putatives aren’t always the best products for beginners - some do, but some don’t work well by themselves. Which is why you need products that go well with them. Which is why you need to know what, and how consumer line products work for you. Which is what beginners usually don’t know. Get the drift? :slight_smile:
    P91 however should work quite OK as standalone (it’s also known as Mx297). Mx297 doesn’t work well for everyone, I for example not only get no positive, but lots of negative self effects. Some people get nice experiences. Keep trying with 12.5 mu.
    P74 should also work OK, so you got a decent pick for a beginner, but I just wanted to warn you beforehand.

  • IShine is useful but doesn’t provide blatant results to beginner’s eyes. You need those sharp eyes and memory that know the usual pattern in behavior, and notices subtle changes. A blatant one could possibly be from A314, see below.

  • But mate, that’s the wrong attitude. Of course you want to see others affected, but not caring about the vibe you radiate is just wrong. You give off a certain vibe and others will possibly give in to yours - like, ever heard of happiness or laughing to be contagious? This is also why “inner game” is valued so much in pickup. You say you care more about how others act, what if I told you a change in your inner game would affect the others’ behaviors more than these products ever could?

The fact that you don’t mention any hints of what dosages you use tells me that you think it’s not important. Am I right? Using a drop/spray here, a drop/spray there, going out and having high expectations? :wink: Most users here have to go through a quite long period to find the dosages that work best for them, testing each for multiple days or weeks. Mind you, even with the perfect dosage you may just have a bad day and see no results, which is why testing for multiple days is important. If you see effects, keep on using it the way you do, and if you see a pattern you can be sure that it’s not placebo.

Also I read your intro thread, I see you’re 19 and are looking to seduce women with A314. Unless you want 30 y/o or olders it may not work so well. I mean with the right dosage you will see an effect but most in their teens or 20s don’t want an authority, they want sexual vibe and fun, at least on parties where you’re going, they’re basically meat markets anyway.

Everything, nothing, who knows? o:
Label everything placebo unless it regularly happens (change in typical behavorial pattern). That’s when you’re on the right track.

I will receive my 2nd bottle the next days – my first one was Rev. 31, so I didn’t see much effects (not talking bad about the product, company admitted it was their fault, I got it refunded, ordered one of the next batch - no hard feelings). But in the A314 insider’s forum there’s a thread about signs you could/should be looking for.

Like…when people are excited, happier than usual, giggling / laughing for no reason also is a big one.

For someone who just got into it, yes. You need to put in some work first.

Umm, don’t bother too much with that. Hair, wrist, neck, it’s all fine as long as there’s good air circulation and warming.

Both, the real gold is the first impressions tho. First use around people who have a certain picture/definition of you already won’t bring blatant results but rather a slow change. Regular use around them re-wires the way they think about you.

Again, spot isn’t such a big deal.
How much you should ideally use heavily depends on the environment/temperature of your body and the air around you. And even if you knew exactly, we couldn’t tell you what works best for you. But I understand you want a recommendation, so here goes: 3 IShine, 2 A314 for outdoors, running errands or meeting friends and stuff. If you experience rather negative effects around your friends, lower to 1 A314.

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Beautiful post, Mysterion.

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Wow mysterion, amazing post, thanks a lot!

I will look for the subtle hints for sure. I have a strong memory so that should come in handy.

What I meant by the self-effects thing was that, it does put me in a great mood, which I love, and I always want to radiate that happiness, but I’d love to see it work on other people more than I would like to see it work on myself, if that makes sense. But I get it, it can’t really work if I can’t follow up with the personality.

I really do care about dosages, I just didn’t address it in my post too much because I’m still a noob with all of this. But read the forums everyday so I really am coming to a better understanding of pheromones.

I’m moving to a new college on sunday, as a transfer student, so I think that a314 and IS will really come in handy during the day for my first impressions and I think i’ll pick up some ammo/tuth for night time/party use with some IS.

Is it okay if i put both IS and a314 and a couple P’s on my wrist? Like it doesn’t matter if they’re all mixed together on my wrist? I won’t turn into some pheromone superhuman dude right?

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By the way my current dose was about 2 sprays IS, one to my wrists and one to my hair, and 2 sprays a314, one to my neck which I spread to behind my ears, and one to my wrists.

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If that’s what you mean by dosage…

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Hi again,

there’s different kinds of A314 spray strength (type a / b), and the same goes for IShine - you can order it in double strength (applies to IShine, not A314, differences between a and b aren’t so huge). So mention that in future - but right now, not important.

For college I may recommend IG around your mates instead of A314, but I guess A314 will be fine too.
If you mix everything you have you won’t clearly be able to tell where the effects come from (if there will be any) - an important reason why it’s essential to use the products standaloneish first, then pair them one at a time and see how they work together.
If you still want to mix them all, I suggest not mixing A314 and P91 together. One is respected leading authority, the other is the social fun guy who doesn’t really care about authority :smiley:
Maybe it will work for you and maybe that’s just my thought. You can try it, but I just see it coming: you mix them all together and wonder why you see no results :wink: