Hello and First Quandries

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Greetings,

as you can see, I’m a raw beginner. I look forward to your guidance and tips. I own a few products, which were, in fact, ultimately delivered, in no small part due to Mickaelia’s heroic efforts. (Thank you)

So now I have them and I’ve gone through many of the postings on how to use and how to dose. I started with a single A314 shot with Shine, then upped the dose. Used Ammunition and TUTH, even in “inappropriate” situations. No matter what the dose, no matter what the combination, no one noticed. Not even my girlfriend. The other guy in my office asked if I had a new scent, and my son asked me if I had a new after shave (1 shot Ammunition and 1 shot TUTH). He said it was a little much. I even tried a couple of squirts in my hair in the sauna (mixed, nude), and no one batted an eye, or anything else.

And now I’m out of A314 to go (standard strength) (the only A314 product available when I ordered).

I suppose the common wisdom is that I’m doing something wrong, but I’m starting to feel that maybe the Emperor’s new clothes… Hmm, is it just me

OK, I’m 60 and maybe need special instructions… Perhaps incongruence. But even new people at the office take no special notice, no pupil dilation, no surreptitious glances, no second takes.

Stumped. You are nice folks, I’m sure you’ll get me on the right path..

And I’ve looked for a post I saw as I was reading before I bought, posted by trisha23 on the composition of the various products. Can you point me back to that?

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Hi there,

Welcome to the forum. You got some great pheromones there.

I recommend you try out one pheromone at a time to know your sweet spot and to understand the effect. Start with one spray/drop for a few days and increase the number of spray/drop. Hopefully tou will find the sweet spot.

Cheers

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Introduction and a $25 ante…

Hi,

I’m calling myself Pushover here, and that’s what I am in a lot of ways. Looking also to make some things easier for me. I’m 60, male, hail from the Midwest, but live in Germany.

The professional aspect (respect, attention) is interesting (though in my first forays I’ve seen no effects), but what I’d really like to do is be more attractive to women, even “at my age”…. Not only the flirtatious second glance, but earnest interest in casual activities. (I’m not over the hill, just a little around the bend.) Ultimately, I’d like to get myself a better chance in swinging situations. I tend to be more retiring than extroverted, and wanted the chemical edge.

But so far, as expressed in my first post (Greetings and first quandaries), I’ve seen no effects in various more or less systematic testing of strengths and combinations. I tend to move in regular circles (work, fitness, medical appointments (health checks, not sick), and the results have been the same in all situations. Nada…

So, before I invest more and re-invest, I wanted to see if the Emperor really has nothing on or whether I need to clean my glasses….

I have used a men’s scent that claims to have pheromone content (Cool Scent from some outfit in Illinois), which, outside of having a pleasant smell, never did a thing for me. The local supplier (a sex supplies chain, very big in Germany, Beate Uhse (beate-uhse.com)) stopped carrying it, so I set out in the net and stumbled across you guys, and it all seemed very plausible and genuine. So I dug into my pocket and exchanged a lot of mails with Mickaelia and finally got my trove. With the results above.

I’m off shortly to have my teeth cleaned, and want to see if I can glaze the dental hygienist’s eyes…

I’ll keep you posted, looking forward to the path to success,
Pushover

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Hey welcome to PT! How is germany? Is it cold?

I can’t say much about the previous mones you used, but there are a lot of scams out there. However, I can tell you that mones that they use here are legit and works well.
Since you are over 60, I recommend you look into 2x ammo and some tuth to replenish some - none and get that edge with females. Also, IJ would work pretty well, so try it and let us know what happens. Finally, IS with any one of them would go well.

Good luck and enjoy!

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Try 3 sprays of Ammunition with 6 sprays of ISHINE?
You should consider getting IG if you want to appear younger. Stay away from using TUTH during the day at all cost. Your son thought it was too much for this reason.
Don’t be afraid to up the doses of anything since you can handle it :wink:

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Hi Pushover and welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:
First, may I ask you what products did you try from Androtics?
For your appointment, I would suggest 3 sprays of IG + 2 sprays of AMMO + 4 sprays of ISHINE.
I could guarantee you that you will notice some difference.

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Hey PheroJack,

thanks for the quantified advice. I’ll give it a try tomorrow. Good thing it’s only Tuesday… Don’t have IG yet, put it on my next order list.

Any suggestions on when to “turn up the heat”?

Looking for guidance…
Pushover

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Just before bedtime :wink:

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Hi PheroJack,

thanks for picking me up on this thread as well…

My first purchase was of Ammunition, TUTH, Instant Shine, Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, A314 To Go (single strength, used up already), TAA/Molecule A (Grapefruit), and a freebie MX390 (haven’t seen much in the way of information on the Mone site).

So I’ll have to add IG to my wish list. Got the response too late for the appointment.

I have something of a date tomorrow evening that should end up in action. Any suggestions for a mix from my current supplies?

Soon,
Pushover

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Thanks for the friendly welcome. Feel at home already…:wink: Germany was seriously cold, but we’ve had a thaw and the snow is out. But it’s supposed to get cold again…:frowning:

Instant Jerk goes on my shopping list as well then (have a full spectrum soon)… And double strength Ammo…

I haven’t even noticed the self-effects some describe. Not with A314, not shine, TAA… Is it me…?

More later,
Pushover

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GREAT INVENTORY YOU GOT THERE :slight_smile:!
2x A314 + 3x Ammo + 5x ISHINE .. I promise that appointment will be interesting :slight_smile:

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Thanks, I’m short on the A314, but the mix sounds promising…

Any ideas why I haven’t noticed effects on myself…?

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It depends on each person. Some people get self-effects, some don’t :o .

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Self effects don’t happen to everyone, and for some people they can be very subtle. A subtle self effect of Instant Shine might be that you don’t get bothered by something that would make you angry, or that your sour mood lifts slightly. They are not always a strong sort of “pherorush” that some users experience.

Also hits will be harder to see among people that see you frequently. You may have to use them for a while longer before you see any benefits with them. Once again, most hits are infact subtle. Bigger hits are often reported on because of the amazement that they cause, but alot of times people skip over the small stuff. Its the small stuff that really make them useful more than the occasional huge hit, so keep a lookout for them! Small things have a way of becoming bigger things!

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Thanks, you guys,

guess I’ll have to keep trying and seeing about subtleties. After reading about “self-effect” I had expected to experience it too…

I had expected to see effects at work, but also shopping among strangers, a try in a mixed sauna with people I for the most part didn’t know yielded universal indifference…

Since everyone seems to report positive experiences, I have to assume that either my pheromone makeup or my inexperience make the results invisible…

Don’t give up on me…
Pushover

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Hi Pushover, welcome to the forum!
Definitely try out each of the products by themselves - work your way up, and don’t be afraid to up the doses, I’ve heard ODing is an educational experience, if anything, haha. You’ll be able to find the Sweet Spot sticky that jamesbonded mentioned in the forum. Plus, if you use the pheromones around people that already know you pretty well - ie they’ve gotten used to your natural phero signature, they’ll probably be slower to respond. But don’t give up hope! Keep us posted, and I hope to see you around. :slight_smile:

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Welcome to Pherotalk Pushover!

You made a good selection of products. To be honesty when you are not seeing results it could be a number of factors that come into play.

  1. You need to try a higher or lower dosage

  2. You are seeing results but just not realizing it

  3. The environment and situations

I could go on and on but with you I think the best solution is a one on one free consultation with our pheromone expert Steve.

I am pretty sure after a call or a chat with Steve via pm you will not be the same. (In a good way of course)

Your gc was issued! :smiley:

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Mickaelia’s right. Don’t expect reactions like you see in Axe commercials. If you know what to look for you will see reactions but they’re usually subtle…most female communication is and most men are blind to it. I suggest getting a book on body language and reading up on how to read people…“What Every Body Is Saying” is a good one. I believe the author was a Fed trained to spot liars.

Outside of that the thing to really remember is that Pheromones are communication signals, and not mind control devices. People get your mones and inhale them and the chemicals send a message to their brain that you are “insert description here” type of guy. They’ll believe this impression so long as your behavior doesn’t contradict it.
Thing is, A314 says “dominant mature alpha male” and it doesn’t sound like you’re carrying that signal.
Instant Jerk says “cocky young stud”
Instant Openness says “Fun, outgoing and social guy”
But you’ll notice that all three require displays of confidence on your part in order to be believable.

Consider it like an expensive italian suit…you walk into a place dressed to the 9’s. people will turn and look and think “Daaaamn sharp dressed man over here stylin and profilin, this dudes got class and style for days. I bet he pulls women like James Bond and shit”
…now pick your nose with one hand while using the other to pull your shorts out of your butt…do they have the same impression of you? Does that mean the suit doesn’t work? Of course not…you had the suit on, but you weren’t really WEARING the suit. With Mones you gotta WEAR that shit bro.