Hello everyone!!

Hey Andrew and welcome to the forums.

I can tell you that a lot of us have been there before. Its hard because most of us are nice guys with good intentions. Being so nice, the chances are so high many of us have gotten into the dreaded friend zone. Over and over again you hear about the idiots that break these girls hearts, and you’re there and wonder why the heck do they put up with it.

Well its cause it’s attraction. Women can’t help it and they’re just oblivious to the fact that nice guys would probably treat them better. BUT they know deep down inside that’s what they want, but you can’t act on it when you can’t build attraction from the opposite sex. I’ve gone through books and many many painful times going out, but in the end, it’s definitely worth it. A few I can recommend is Vin DeCarlo, David DeAngelo, and if you read around the forum you’ll notice some others like Mystery Method, the book “The game”. There are also numerous posts on this forum by the likes of Steve, Radman, thegentleman, myself, and others that detail some of our experiences. The good thing about here is that you will be able to get both the support for mones and social dynamics and pickup.

As for the products itself, over and over again AMMO has always come through for me, its just spray and go, it really is the most subtle yet effective product that AD has to offer.

As you mentioned before you know that there isn’t going to be the AXE effect or girls jumping on you and raping you. It just won’t happen. However, with the right mindset, and pheromones that complement you, you’ll be able to go out there and increase your chances. There is nothing that is 100% guarantee except for failing to try.

Because you’re younger also, I would go with Instant Gentleman, and Instant Shine and CTTM. Those help boost social interactions when it comes to going out and partying.

Instant Gentleman will give you that warm charismatic vibe that goes very well with someone in your position. AMMO would turn up the interaction into something more than friendly. Instant Shine gives the effect of a cheerful mood which just makes the interaction more fun. CTTM will essentially help bring out peoples conversation and yourself alike.

Here is a guide to help get you started with everything.

Steve made a great writeup on how to find your sweet spot and toilofday will help you understand the molecules and jargon around the forum.

Welcome again and good luck.