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Hey, my name is john.
I’m a 21 yr old Asian male currently going to university on the east coast. I also have ADHD and use adderall occasionally (only for study).

I have a few reasons for joining this forum.
Here is my situation, and I’m hoping pheromones would give me some help in these areas:

I’m not really good with girls. Girls used to say I was cute back in middle/high school but I never really acted on that, and since then I’ve gotten a bit of acne/gained a little bit of weight but I am trying to take care of those things. I think I still look fairly decent though. I’ve never had a girlfriend, I’m a virgin. I find it really hard to talk to girls that I am attracted to and if I do talk to them, I think I try to give off a “i don’t care” attitude. probably one of my fears of talking to girls is that I’m not a good conversationalist and even when talking to male friends, I often run of things to say and the silence is awkward for me.

another thing is that among friends and classmates, I don’t really get much respect. Sometimes in group meetings or assignments, I wouldn’t say a single word the entire time. i don’t really get invited much to social activities either, though I might go to parties in my dorm once a month or so. drinking kind of opens me up lol, but I think i just act stupid :confused:

So I think its mainly a problem with confidence.
So I’m probably looking for pheromones that will either give me more confidence or make me more approachable for girls. any tips you guys can give me would be great :slight_smile:
I’m always in situations where I need to be social, since I’m always either in class, out in campus, or in my dorm (my dorm mates always have girls over like almost everyday)

and the $25 would obviously help alot haha

i’m not really sure if all this was hard to read or something, I have terrible writing skills and I’m even worse at opening up about myself :frowning:
I’m not even sure if some of these things I am saying are true :confused: I might say something different if you ask me another day

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Hey johnshaw, Welcome to the forums!

I read everything perfectly no need to worry about spelling, I mess up sometimes too lol. One thing thats for certain with pheromones is that while they can help give off the right vibes to get attention you too have to play the part. As you asked for help in this area too, I think your on the right path. But one thing in your mind has to change and its that fear of rejection. I think the root of it comes from the fear of loosing out on an opportunity or fear of humiliation. But once that change in your head happens and you realize that whoever talks to you cant humiliate you and you have only to gain by talking you start to succeed more.

I believe the best product for you would be A314. It makes it so your perceived social value increases and at the same time boosts your own confidence. Mix this with Instant Openness to get more people interested in talking to you. You may also want to use Instant Shine to boot your mood and the moods of everyone around you to build even more approachability to yourself.

For a cheaper alternative to A314, there is the more subtler Instant Gentleman that would give you a clam cool confident vibe thats more subtle but like 007. But I think I would really recommend you to get A314 as I noticed in myself a much bigger confidence boost when using it.

You can read up on the products available in this list here

All the best!
Daset

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You’ve come to the right place my friend, and you have provided some good information but lets get down to specifics. Are you looking to “hook up” or meet a girlfriend? Sounds like you are generally pretty shy around women and you’re looking for more respect from both the ladies and your buddies. How do your interactions usually go? Do you think there is anything about you that is keeping you from ge3tting the interactions that you are looking for?

Sounds like you would be perfect for Instant Gentleman. I/G increases your status as well as providing “socials” as buffers. For that reason it is harder to O/D on IG unlike A314 which can sometime be hard for a younger guy to pull off being congruent with. Maybe try a ToGo of I/G and my personal favorite Instant shine. Instant shine is sort of like charisma in a bottle. It is impossible to O/D from I/S making it another good product for a rookie to try out. Find your sweet spot with I/G to where you are getting the status you are looking for then apply some I/S to you wrists and try to talk with your hands so you can get the scent going to lure in the ladies.

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hi there,

welcome to the forum.

i suggest you try ig, io and shine.

ig will make people feel you are more mature, capable and respected. people will pay attention and listen yo to you more.

io will make you more approachable. people will open up and like to talk to you.

shine will boost your confident and counter shyness. it uplifts your moid socially.

good luck

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Hey thanks for the suggestions.

Chris,
i’m looking more to meet a girlfriend but I wouldn’t mind hooking up with a girl either. My interactions with my roommates and friends are pretty relaxed, we laugh, make alot of jokes. In more social situations (like hanging out as a group or whatever) with my friends though, I feel that I’m more left out. My interaction with girls is like, I’m only able to interact with them when I have my male friends around me. I guess I always need my male friends to help keep conversations going or make jokes or things get awkward fast. I just can’t think of anything to say to them. my interactions with classmates that aren’t really good friends of mine are like whatever I don’t even talk usually if it’s a group and it’s really brief if its 1 on 1. I don’t think I can keep eye contact with anyone, male or female, I feel really awkward when I try to.

Daset
you’re right about the fear of rejection, i think alot of it stems from when I was ~14. I was pretty confident at the time since i knew that a few girls that liked me. one of these girls who really liked me, i would go out with in a heartbeat today, but I was dumb at the time i guess. she even went as far as to write me a note but I think I pretended to not have gotten it or something (which was really an asshole move on my part now that I’m typing this and reflecting on it). But there was this new girl I really liked and she said I was cute and everything, so I thought I had a pretty good chance with her and I asked her out but I got rejected. suffered some embarrassment (from our friends and such) because of that. Since then I haven’t really pursued any relationships. also, I was never really good socially but I guess i used to be pretty good looking back in the day but still really shy.

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Hello and welcome to PheroTalk. I am so happy you were able to discover this most amazing community. We consider each other like family here and are totally committed to helping each other out. There are so many great people here and now another too :slight_smile:.

I will be issuing your GC in just a short while to your email. I would love to be able to personally respond to every new user signing on, but because I want to ensure you get the GC in time I can only reply with this message at this time. I’m sure you are anxious to get started, just like the rest of us were too :slight_smile:. Its cool!

Of course I am available to answer any question you might have regarding mones selection by calling me personally on the hotline. Please select extension one and I will be able to consult you one on one.

Welcome to the forum.

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Oh and double the GC for such a great intro. Very revealing and I can already tell you will have a lot to offer. Welcome

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Hey there, glad to see that you have decided to join our community. There is a lot of information on this forum, not only about pheromones, but relationships/dating in general. Make sure that you browse around thoroughly when you get a chance. I think that it will help you out a lot. Okay, now I’ll get started =]

A non-phero suggestion is to try brushing up on your conversation skills, and don’t worry, silence is not always a bad thing. Sometimes people need time to process the conversation.

As far as “trying to give off a “i don’t care” attitude”, don’t do that. It is very easily detectable, especially by females. I know it sounds cliche, but just be yourself (seriously). Make a valid attempt to find the highlights of your personality and perfect them. There pheromones will help you much more once you have achieved this, and you will be able to see peoples reactions to them much better as well.

A phero that helps big time (that I unfortunately have not gotten to try myself) but have heard works miracles is A314. This product is oil based, and lasts around 6-8 hours on the skin and will help you be seen and see yourself as an “alpha type male” and may even help you in perfecting those qualities in your personality.

As far as not speaking during assignments; is that because you do not want to speak, or because you are afraid of looking stupid while speaking? Because if you are afraid, the only way to break this fear, is just like with any other type, practice! Maybe one of your good friends will help you practice, even if it is just having more casual conversation with him; with him being aware of your ultimate goal and challenging you at times. I feel that this would be healthy for your personality development.

For a confidence boost, give Instant Shine a try. It’s definitely a forum favorite and I personally respond very strongly to Instant Shine. 1 spray and it helps to boost my mood. The few times that I ventured into 2 sprays, I was bouncing off the wall with joyous moods/thoughts/feelings and even got asked by a close friend of mine (that’s a girl), “what’s wrong with you” as if being extremely happy and wanting to go on a road trip is a bad thing =]

AMMO is a great product for making you appear more masculine and manly, while at the same time friendly. This is great for attracting the females, but bro, they’re not going to come to you, so don’t be afraid to go up and talk, and get rejected. They have always said, “the man who get’s rejected the most, leaves with the most numbers.”

Don’t be afraid of rejection, sometimes it’s healthy and it definitely helps you define yourself as a person and assists in you seeing what you do and don’t want in friendships/relationships.

I sure hope this helps! Good luck John!

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Hey guys thanks for the replies, after reading your suggestions and looking at the store, I think I am going to order a314, and togo versions of IO, IG, IS, and ammo just to be able to test them all without spending too much money.

also, i’m not really sure how I should apply them though since I read all these threads where people mix and match different pheromones and apply each on different spots like their wrists, necks, hair, etc. Is there any science or techniques behind that or is it kind of random?

and thanks steve for the double GC, really helps me out since I’m a college student

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Good choices. I’ve heard about different places and techniques for each product. I don’t have an answer, but can help with some.

A314 suggestions:

  • 1 drop under the nose (for maximum self effect, such as helping to put you into a more serious mood, or helping you overcome junkfood cravings, etc)
  • 1 drop to both wrists
  • 1 drop in each ear
  • 1 drop on each side of the neck

Instant Shine:

  • Spray directly to neck (half self effect, half effect on others)
  • Spray directly to face (maximum self effect, nice effect when kissing)
  • Spray in hair (good diffusion, spreads your scent as you move around)

AMMO:

  • 1 spray to both sides of neck (girls like this)
  • 1 spray to each wrist (you will create almost a phero cloud when you move your wrists)
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I agree, good places to put the stuff. One thing to remember that A314 is powerfull stuff, use 1-2 drops.. 3 only if you buffer alot with IS or you want to seem like god but be left alone :wink: Where as IS you cant really go wrong.

Same thing with ammo, you may over dose past 2-3 sprays… but you need to find that point through trial and error.

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Sorry it has taken a while to get back. Responded on the day, but my pc was acting up. Eye contact, and body language in general is pretty important. It is said that most often, women initiate interactions with men they are hoping to meet through eye contact and other forms of flirting. A problem can arise for people who may have been brought up within the context of other cultures who see eye contact as a form of disrespect. You may want to check out some material on the subject of body language. If you are not familiar with it, you may have women showing thier interest already and don’t know it.

A trick that I have used recently with women is to look into the eyes and try to determine dilation of the pupil, (a pretty sure sign of attraction). The task can help take your mind off the awkwardness you might feel doing something you are not used to. It is important to smile when they notice you looking into their eyes otherwise it can come off as creepy.

As far as conversation, it is important to practice with both males and females. College is a great chance to do so. You HAVE to get comfortable enough so that you can talk to women without your friends around cuz most likely when you meet the woman of your dreams, your friends won’t likely be around. Good luck with the pheromones and hope all turns out well for you!

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yup!
I agree with most of the things said here.

Remember a couple of things:
In this society it is up to the man to initiate and escalate the interaction. I´m not being sexist here, this is the way it works!

Girls are generaly loving soft wonderfull creatures, you´ll be surprised how often after smiling and saying “Hi” they open up to you, and if they like you they help get all thoes hurdels out of the way, now ist ime to escalate! Touch her arm (while looking in the other direction) Don´t mention that you are a virgin (unless you want to AFTERWARDS!) Kiss the girl - she will NOT kiss you first!

Remember: IF YOU ARE WONDERING IF YOU SHOULD KISS HER - YOU SHOULD KISS HER!

oh, and practice saying “Hi” to people… going out to the mall or somewhere, say hi to strangers, ask if they have the time… always a good way to open up a conversation without using a silly line.

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Thanks for the answers guys, I’ve been really busy with midterms lately but they’re almost over and I’ll be trying it out soon!