Hello fellow forum junkies!

Hi everyone, my name is Jordan. I’m 23 years old and I live in north Texas. I work for a major shipping company as a customer counter clerk, helping people pick up missed deliveries and ship pre-packed parcels. Being that I live in a college town, I do tend to see a healthy share of good looking girls around my age demographic; unfortunately, I’m somewhat of a small-framed guy (5’7", 115lbs), and not only does this hamper my self-esteem, it also turns a lot of girls off who want some big, 250lb hamburger-snarfing rugby-playing beefcake. Admittedly, I wouldn’t be the type to sway THOSE particular girls, but I must gloat that I have had my share of good-looking girlfriends since high school. The ability is there, it’s just been lost in various emotional breakdowns, a result of me being too nice and trusting of a guy, as well as a bit of a marshmallow on the inside.

I first started reading about pheromones when I was in high school; Largely, everything I read about looked like a hoax to con people out of 50 bucks. More than likely most of them were, as pheromones weren’t quite as mainstream 7 or 8 years ago as they seem to be now. I was trying to find a crutch for my shy, quiet nature. Believe it or not, the best cure for this was lots and lots of sexual experience. I became a bit of a sex addict after my first long-term relationship, therefore placing “sliding in” on the back burner and “getting some” on the front. This did good and bad things for me; For one, it lowered my inhibitions talking to new people, as I wanted to establish new prospects, both male and female (if you hang out with dudes a couple years younger, you are bound to meet their hot female friends!). For another, it took away a good part of the shyness that held me back throughout my high school career, as I was no longer worried about what I was and wasn’t capable of in and out of bed. I had a few more relationships between graduation and 2006, nothing really long-standing, but all of the girls I was with were bombshells. I’m not trying to toot my own horn here, I’m just saying… the game is there, I just gotta figure out how to play it.

Cut to 2007. I hook up with a girl my age that I’ve been friends with since high school at a halloween party, hosted by me and my roommates. Coincidentally, she had just broken up with her boyfriend the same night, whom happened to be one of my buds; their relationship was rather chaotic for the last 6 months, breaking up numerous times as well as him kicking her out of his house. Understandably, I took a lot of flak from my friends as well as her ex for “stealing” someone’s girl, although she was single at the time. I know I screwed up by not giving it time, but my lease was almost up, I was struggling with the possibility of having to move back home with my parents and, subsequently, having no place for me and her to shag uninhibited. I ended up signing a year lease at a new apartment with one of my old roomies a week later.

Amazing and copious sex nonwithstanding, I cared a lot about this girl, so I let everyone’s hate remarks bounce off me. I had cared about her for a long time and watched silently while she dated every asshole in the phone book with little or no success. I was the model perfect boyfriend; Woke her up with massages (and lovin’) and cooked her breakfast, took her out to HER choices of venue, was always a good listener and gave positive feedback, never belittled, insulted or hit her among other things a good man does for his woman; I ALWAYS let her do her own thing whenever she wanted, never blew up her phone while she was away at parties to accuse her of trying to cheat on me or anything like that (though it turns out I should have). Most notably, I was definitely the giver of the relationship when it came to intimacy. My philosophy was, she should get off at least one more time than myself, sort of my way of one-upping her sexual experience. I even visited her 3-4 times a week, even when I had no money for gas and had to walk, when she went to jail for a month for DWI (This should have been a red flag). In fact, the only thing I DIDN’T do for her was give her a free ride, simply because I was without a job for a few months and sustained by selling off valuables I didn’t use or couldn’t afford to keep.

Cut to last June. A month before, she had signed the lease contract with me after my original roommate vacated following a disagreement we had, coincidentally over whether or not this girl had cheated on me (I defended her fidelity to the very last word, though I found out far too late that she HAD cheated on me, more than once, within the first month of the relationship and had refused to tell me as she had no place else to stay). The first day of June I paid her half of the rent as she had yet to find a job, citing her DWI on record as the reason (not only did it fail to make it on her record due to the police misspelling her first name, but she never made any follow-up calls to the places she applied). She sat me down that same night and explained that her feelings for me had changed, and we could no longer be together. I didn’t take it too well, being so sudden and unexplained, but I settled for moping in my room for a while.

She ended up coming in a few minutes later acting rather strange and guarded, then she finally came out and told me she had cheated on me. I took that part rather well too – that is, until she refused to tell me who it had been with. At that point I flipped a gasket, overreacted, and put myself at risk with my behavior that night. I say myself because I had no intention of hurting her, or any other woman, at any point during the night, despite beng inherently angry at her bad (and primarily alcohol-abuse-fueled) decision-making. Said behavior was detrimental to my image in the long run, as I posted a long-winded story about 2 months later in, a vain effort to put it all behind me, about how she had completely and totally screwed me over; telling the whole truth from beginning to end including my weak, self-destructive moment of despration. Everything in the story was 100% true to drive the point home: All I wanted from her in the first place was the truth. It was the ONLY rule I had established for our entire relationship other than the obvious, unspoken one: NO CHEATING!

Long story short, she bailed for good the next morning, still owing me several hundred dollars in rent and utilities, and I found out a week later while on a sales trip in Wisconsin that she had slept with a now-former-friend of mine whom is a little bit more financially stable than myself, having gotten his 4 year degree in 3 years due to excessive uppers drug habits combined with obsessive-compulsive studying, as well as a comfy sales manager job at a reputable pharmaceutical company (it’s no coincidence that he also sold prescription pills to friends as supplemental income - yes, a drug dealer). He is also about twice my weight and height. They are now in a “relationship” of seven months, and after her having lost a promising full-time job due to drunkenly stealing his truck and running off at 2am with a male co-worker (they both failed to show up the next morning), as well as getting him to pay for a semester of college classes for her and subsequently dropping them all, she now lives with him free of charge, while he has had to add a second roommate to his lease to keep up with payments. She’s quite the pathological liar and sociopath, and one would say he did me a bit of a favor.

All this boils down to one thing; this vicious, man-eating girl pretty much utterly destroyed any and all confidence I have in myself. I no longer feel relaxed and approachable when I go to parties, moreso guarded, pessimistic and assumptive that every girl there is just looking for a sugar daddy or a big bulky SOB to throw her around the bedroom a little. I tried to shrug it off at a few parties and just get to know new people, but failure after failure to make a serious connection with any girl broke me down further and further. Furthermore, lack of a sex life has driven me to the brink of insanity; I’ve gone from having sex as many as 3-5 times a day, to FLAT ZERO, in zero seconds flat, and it’s been that way since June. I did hook up with one girl a few months ago I used to talk to last year that pretty much phoned me for a booty call, but the sex was so horrible and unrewarding that I literally wouldn’t even count it in my book. I may as well have been screwing a terrified, mentally retarded dog. That didn’t help my case much, either.

Believe it or not, I am actually getting somewhere with this whole sob story. I actually found this forum, you guessed it, by searching “Gilroy Ocean’s Thirteen” in google after reading an article about Dr. Amend’s Pheromone Advantage. I quickly discovered that there is of course no such thing as a super-pheromone that explosively melts women’s panties and inhibitions. That’s my job :smiley: Instead, I found out a little more than I used to know about how pheromones are used, why they are used, and most importantly, what makes the good ones work and how. I haven’t totally scoured this forum for all of its useful information as of yet, but from what I have read there is a lot of helpful pointers floating around as well as good advice on the right products for specific social encounters. I already feel right at home here as everyone generally has the same goal as me. I want to make it easier on myself to meet new people, as well as make myself irresistable to the ladies. Granted, there is no end-all be-all pheromone to make all my woes disappear, but I am aware that using the right product under the right circumstances could grant me a strategic advantage over my smooth-talking, taller and better-built friends.

I’d like to hear from you guys on what the best course of action woud be for me. I’m very interested in the gift certificate offer outlined by Miss Tisha, as I wanted to get started trying out pheromones but I’m still just about as broke as I was six months ago; having had to pay 2 full months rent back to back as a result of trouble finding a solid roommate. That’s over 70% of my monthly income :frowning: I didn’t make this post long-winded just to try to get a fatter gift certificate, I just tend to be thorough and complete with my thoughts, in an effort to answer all questions about myself before they are asked.

Anyhow, thanks for reading, and I’m looking forward to hearing from you all as well as talking business! The business of love at first sight, that is :cool: Cheers!

edit I have to add this, having just read a thread regarding different races’ attraction to varied pheromones: I most definitely have a thing for Asian girls, as well as Latinas following my last relationship (yeah, the crappy one). It seems they are on opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of responses to respective chemicals, but if I were to choose one over the other it’d definitely be Asians. I’ve been with several now, and they were all FREAKS! :smiley:

HI there,

Thanks for the long story. I am sorry to hear about the cheat. My advice is to let go and move on in your life. There are a lot more better girls out there.

I would recommend you try AMMO. It can make girls attracted to you. It can also sexually attract girls.

Try IO too. IO can make girls want to talk to you. This will open up more opportunity for you to meet girls. will make you more approachable too.

Good luck

Cheers

Thanks for the response. I was looking at those two as a possibility; I also have some interest in A314 and Instant Female Magic; I kind of wanted to start out by trying some of the portable spray bottles androtics has for sale just to see what effect they have for me. I like the idea of using unscented, slow-release oils moreso than sprays, but before I invest in a whole bottle of something I want to get my feet wet a bit. I will take note of your suggestions :wink:

And yes, everyone tells me the same thing to some effect about forgetting her and moving on. I do my best, but the thing that would help me out the most is having a new love interest to focus my attentions on. I’m working on that :o

Hey there Jordan, welcome to the forums! Wow, that was a fantastic introduction. You’re right, i really don’t have any questions to ask since i read that. And i’m sorry about this girl that was yanking you around, but c’mon mate… they’re not all like that. You just happened to snag a bad fish.

Let’s see here… for your purposes, i would recommend three products: Instant Shine, Instant Openness, and Ammo. Now, with the $25 GC that you’ll be getting, you’ll be able to get 2 to-go size products from the Instant line, as well as pay for shipping. So listen carefully and pick the two that seem the best for you. :wink:

Instant Openness gives off a vibe that makes the people around you more chatty (as well as yourself) and makes you seem more approachable. Remember, this is chatty, not deep conversation, so don’t go wild and spray 8 sprays of this stuff or you may find out all about their cat Mr. Jingles. But at the sweet spot, it can really open people up when meeting them for the first time.

Instant Shine sends out a “healthy glow” to others, making the people around you a bit more energetic and upbeat, as well as giving most people the self-effect of a confidence boost. Pretty good product for just about anywhere.

Ammo is a -none product (androstenone, sexual pheromone) that has been well-buffered with social pheromones so that it’s not just screaming “i’m here for the sex!” Instead, it creates a sexual spark in conversations that can keep you out of the friends zone and help you hit a home run with the ladies. It comes pre-mixed with a cologne that is supposed to smell like Irish Tweed (couldn’t tell you, never smelled the stuff myself).

Well, that’s my two cents, for what it’s worth. If you have any questions, feel free to ask away! Have fun experimenting and hope to see you around the forums! Cheers!

You are right about having a new love interest. I remember one member (Josef) said ‘to get over a girl is to get under another girl’ lol

Type of phero depends on what you want to achieve. A314 is to project you as capable, trusted and of higher status. It can get attention from girls looking for ltr. For the real attraction, AMMO is still the best.

IFM is good to make the girls calm, relax and comfortable beside you. It is also one of my favourite phero.

Is there a portable or trial version of Ammo? I want to try it out if possible before I drop 50 or 60 bones on it. It sounds right up my alley.

yes, there is.

look up in smartmones.com

Yup, all of the products listed so far, with the exception of A314, come in to-go bottles. You mentioned being tight on money, so why would we recommend something that would cost alot when you haven’t even gotten to try them out yet? That’s what the $25 GC is for. :wink:

Edit: One of these days, James, i WILL answer a question before you! You and you’re super speedy freakishly fast typing skills! :stuck_out_tongue: Awww, just kidding. You know i love ya.

Haha, awesome. Thanks for the heads up, I was browsing the to-go section earlier but I didn’t find Ammo… probably just wasn’t looking hard enough. I’m a bit of a night owl and frequently miss out on whole nights of sleep, makes me lose my edge a bit :o I’ve been up all night since yesterday at 2pm, sometimes the only way to keep up with the rest of the world is to lose a day when you’re a terminal insomniac like me!

i love ya too. peace :wink:

Thanks for the prompt replies, guys. I wish I could give you both credit, but I’ll give it to james since he struck first :slight_smile:

Hello Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

My name is Tisha and I am the hostess here on PT.

Wow great intro.

So you are a little skittish being back out there after your last relationship. All women are not this way.

I do suggest you start with AMMO IH and Ishine.

AMMO is sexy masculine confident mildly arousing. Ishine is charismatic warm uplifting.

IH will help you connect better with others, Have deeper more meaningful conversations.

If you have questions just ask. Your GC is on its way :smiley:

Tisha

Thanks tisha! You’re the bomb! :smiley:

Thanks :stuck_out_tongue:

I ordered Instant Openness and AMMO. I’m excited to see how it works :slight_smile:

Good luck to you then.

Remember to try out the pheros one at a time to understand what it can do for you. Start with 1 spray for a few days and observe the reaction, body language, eye contacts. The increase to 2 sprays and do the same. Carry on until you find your sweet spot.

Once you get to know the phero and your sweet spot, then you can combo them to achieve your desired result.

Good luck again :slight_smile:

I was originally thinking I’d start with a spray or two of Openness, shoot the bull at a party, and then excuse myself and sneak a spray of ammo on under my shirt or something. I will heed your advice and take it slow.