I’m Jake. I’m pretty new to this whole Pheromone thing, but I’ve just ordered some To-Go Pheromones from the SmartMones store.
The pheromones I have ordered are:
1 To-Go bottle of Ammunition (xtra strength)
1 To-Go of Instant Gentleman
1 To-Go of TUTH (Turn up the Heat)
I am not sure about combining them yet and how’d they do. I plan to test them out and let everyone know my observations (I’m skeptical that Pheromone even work, but after reading the forums I thought I’d give it a go).
There’s this girl I really like and have liked for quite some time, and we’ve known each other pretty well. However, I notice that even though she tells me what a great guy I am and how sweet I am to her and how much she “loves” me, etc. I can tell she doesn’t feel the same click she gets with some other guys who are complete strangers to her. Usually she gets really cuddly with these guys (but not with me), and they are constantly on her mind and she turns into a complete mess thinking of them and I can tell they somehow turn her on without even doing anything. It seems these guys have a way of seducing her and drawing her in that I just don’t understand (they all end up being complete idiots and jerks which is why she is never with them very long), and she can never really explain what she found attractive about them. These guys aren’t particularly physically attractive in any way I can see, and I think I am more attractive than some of them have been by a long shot. I am hoping to do an experiment to see if me using Pheromones will help her come around to seeing me more “attractive” and maybe provide that “spark” that is missing between us (I have a theory that she is attracted to the Pheromones these guys put out). Wish me Luck!!!
We have plans to go out next weekend to hang out and the day is all about her, I plan to take her for breakfast, then go to a local museum (maybe aquarium), then lunch, after lunch we’ll probably take a walk and maybe walk my dogs. I also bought tickets to go and see the Addams Family Musical, but before that I plan to take her to dinner. I hope that these Pheromones will be here on time. I’d prefer them to be earlier so that I can try them out to try and get the proper balance on layering.
Does anyone have any suggestions with layering and what to expect from women with the above mentioned products I purchased? I’d love to hear your thoughts
She’s given the answer pretty clearly there I’m afraid - she’s turned-on by jerks.
As well as the pheros, which can help a bit, you are going to need a radical rethink of your behaviour towards her. Be less of a friend and more of a potential boyfriend. I’m not saying to become a total jerk of course but to assert yourself before her, be less available and leave her guessing a bit more about your intentions. Oh and stop being her emotional sponge over those guys right now!
Doing stuff together is good, especially anything physical or emotionally challenging to shake her feelings up a bit and demonstrate your most attractive behaviours and body language. Don’t be afraid to rag her a little and get some touching/kino in there too. Dinner, maybe less so - Concentrate on making your time together as fun and exciting/challenging as possible - don’t be afraid to create a bit of tension. Then leave her wanting/wondering for a bit.
IG is a good way of upping your status and value in her eyes but I’m concerned that you bought the 2x Ammo - This is a product aimed at older guys/girls (how old is she?) - generally approaching 30s and over and can backfire on you as you are still fairly young and liable to be producing a good amount yourself. Start by using only one spray, or even a half if you can manage and build-up slowly.
TUTH is almost all none and is very overtly sexual - save that for the most sexually charged situations (clubs/parties/drinking) or when you are very near to bed. Use it in more social/less charged situations and it can backfire badly - Make you seem way too horny/agressive/creepy wtc.
Unfortunately I think Mobo is right - for now she is in a phase where she is going after guys who she intuitively knows will not treat her well. There is a lot of psychology behind that - usually family issues. In time she will realize what an idiot she has been but no one can tell you how long that will be. In the meantime Mobo is also right about being her friend but not her emotional sponge. That is what her female friends are for. If she wants to ask you guy advice, that is one thing. Crying on your shoulder about those guys is another. Unless you are willing to be very blunt with her as in: Look I am sorry this last one hurt you, but you are purposely letting yourself be drawn to guys that you intuitively know are the “bad boys” and are going to hurt uyou in the long run. Hell, not even the long run. More like just past the short run. You do not seem to see it but the rest of us can. Nobody wants to hurt your feelings by saying this latest one seems just like the last one but I do not want to see you get hurt anymore. You really need to think about why you are doing this. Now she could get pissed off at you and not talk to you again but you have at least laid it out there for her.
Equally unfortunately is the fact that pheros will probably not change that. She already know you are a good guy and the pheros cannot do anything about that.
That being said, maybe try wearing Ammo around her as a base. While IG is a great product (I really like it) it will not give off the vibe she is drawn to. Ammo has the none she is looking for.
Then if you go out in the evening try adding a spray of TUTH to the Ammo just to up that part of the signature a little. Do not try the TUTH during the day when you have to go to work, class, etc.
Both of you are right. Thanks so much for your input. We are already past the emotional sponge phase. She no longer seeks that kind of support from me (j put my foot down on that awhile ago). Sometimes she does ask guy advice and i answer her in full honesty (I’ve been right everytime so far). Part of the tension with my relationship with her comes from the fact that i am such a nice guy that when she had no where to live for school I offered her to stay at my house. I own my own house and had plenty of extra rooms. So now she’s my housemate. In order to avoid the situation I now keep my self very busy, we haven’t seen each other for about two weeks now cuz our schedules don’t line up at all. So I am keeping my distance. However, next weekend we agreed to hang out as buddies as she is very stressed right now. She met a guy at school who she has been head over heels for and he told her that he doesn’t want a relationship with her but just wants to be friends with benefits, which of course she doesn’t want. So i hope to spend next weekend just keeping her busy and not thinking about the other guy or even guys at all.
I think I will try the ammo first… Thanks for your help. Also I am going out for a pub crawl on valentines with a bunch of single ladies so maybe I give tuth a shot too
I am 24 years old and so is she. So do you think i should probably not use the Ammo but instead use the IG? I actually dunno why I chose the 2x to be honest.. Haha… Maybe its to strong?
Yup - IO is an excellent buffer for TUTH and IS helps steer the sexual response away from awkwardness/edginess and into fun/happy territory. Both are very useful additions.
No, don’t leave the Ammo out. Some none is very good indeed, just start from a small dose and work-up - that way it won’t overpower and drive her away first time she gets a whiff - Female friends can give strange responses when they first encounter your new sig - they can be wary or standoffish/surprised at your new more sexual signal. Its not a bad thing and they will adapt/respond to it soon - esp in conjunction with more attractive behaviours.
I find that rone/status formulas like IG can appeal to those in the “jerk” mindset - Its not the brash cockyness of none but still strong, capable and in charge, so someone very real - Which can prove challenging and attractive. I’d certainly give IG/Ammo a whirl around her.
Good to see you have already got a handle on those behaviours and can step back - This does help a lot.
Valentines pub crawl with single ladies - Gawd… Help… You…!
Go for one full spray Heavy Ammo and add a spray of TUTH as the night degenerates/you go to a club/start getting cosy with someone (some IG might also up your impact ) - That’s ultimately 7.5mcg of none in a 1.5:1:1 ratio to nol and rone.
Yes - all the single ladies out together consoling themselves over lack of boyfriends and here comes The Batchelor. They say they are there for their friends but they are not going to turn down an interested guy.
Yep… That’s what I’m counting on… There have been 60 RSVPs so far. I wish I could afford to buy some more pheromones to test out. I’d defintely try some more… Maybe i will get my $25 gc soon
Out of curiosity… Does anyone have any experience using TUTH at work or class? Like what exactly could happen? What if I wanted to attract some of the ladies I work with Lol
Try taking your cock out and waving it in their faces!
Yes, TUTH sends that strong “sex - RIGHT NOW!” signal that is not always appreciated at work or class.
Or worse still, it can trigger aggression/avoidance or as it can be difficult to be congruent with, can just get you taken for that horny weirdo. Guys may not react too well either - again, aggression/competitive behaviour are common responses to overt none.
So if you are going to try, moderate it well with nols (like IO or IH), use some IS to keep feelings happy and have fun. Otherwise, Ammo/socials are far more suitable/all-round attractive and keep the TUTH for after work.
It ain’t really an attraction product - more TUTH is aimed at enhancing passion for those already in a sexual relationship. Although it can be useful in very sexually charged environments eg clubs/parties (esp with IS) and in high-impact/status mixes with A314 that work best with more mature women.
Wow thanks for the input… I just got my $25 gift card so I think i may buy some IS and IO. What would you say about mixing IS, IG, IO, and Ammo together? is this too much? If I can swing it I may also buy IH. I’d like to avoid IJ that doesn’t seem to be the energy I want to portray.
1 to-go bottle of Ammunition for Him (2x strength, was indicated that this might be too strong so I only plan to use very little)
1 to-go bottle of IG
1 to-go bottle of TUTH.
Initial impressions:
Package came really quickly (yay!!!). I notice the bottles seem to leak a little bit :-(. Has anyone else noticed this? This is kinda a problem if I actually intend to take these bottles to go (which I had hoped to, but seeing that they leak I think they would end up all over my clothes making me WAAY to strong, and would be a waste of product). If these bottles have been an issue I hope that they can be changed at some point :-(.
I do really enjoy the smell of all of them. I plan to try some of the Ammo tomorrow mixed with IG when I go to work. I’ll let everyone know if I notice anything out of the ordinary. I am also waiting on an order of IS and IO as well (they should be here tomorrow).
On Thursday I plan to go out for happy hour. I’m thinking of using a little Ammo (on neck) mixed with a couple sprays of IG on my wrists. Does anyone think I should also use a touch of TUTH or should I just stick with Ammo and IG?
I will get back in touch to see how Ammo and IG fairs tomorrow at work. Any suggestions that you guys might have would be greatly appreciated.
) - That’s ultimately 7.5mcg of none in a 1.5:1:1 ratio to nol and rone.