¡Hola!

So here i am! :slight_smile: Already have read many of the messages here, but I figured out it could be better if I became a member…

I must say I’m a doctor, and I am a bit sceptical about this all, but already ordered a few items, so… if they work, I will definitively let you know! :smiley:

Hi skeef,

welcome to the forum - glad you decided to join us!

Which products did you order so far?

If you tell us about your personality and your goals with the pheromones you will qualify for the $25 gift certificate which you can use for your next order…

keep us updated about your observations… always good to hear a opinion from the pro’s! (btw: quite a few doctors around here…):smiley:

have fun here
magnum

I ordered A314 (but was out of stock, so I didn’t use it), Also Instant Openness and “Turn Up The Heat”

I’m 32 y.o, and I am just… experimenting :slight_smile: I’m quite social, and talkative, but that’s also my disadvantage: With ladies, I usually fall in the “Friends area” quite fast, so they usually don’t think about me as a “possible love mate / sexual parthner”. It doesn’t bother me too much, but can be annoying at some points…

In fact, there’s a girl at work I befriended quite closely, but when I asked her out a couple of months ago, she told me she wanted me as a friend but nothing more… I accepted it, and we go well together like that. If pheromones can help me to avoid this situation in the future, then it would be great (I already guess it’s too late for this certain lady, even if I’m still in love with her, haha) ;D

I have used a few times the Instant Openness and “Turn Up The Heat”, (2-3 sprays of each, neck/wrists), but still didn’t notice something special, maybe I need to wait to get my A314 when available? :slight_smile:

HI there,

Welcome to the forum.

To attract girls andbreak away from friend zone, try AMMO and IH.

AMMO will get them atracted to you. It is well buffered to make it suitable for most social occassions.

IH wil make them closer to you. Thy will talk more meaningful and deeper with you.

I suggest you use TUTH if the girls have already developed closeness and comfort with you.

Good luck

Thanks a lot, jamesbonder :slight_smile: Those sound like really interesting suggestions, And since I already have THUT, it would only mean to add AMMO and IH to my stock.

I want to think I already attract girls because of being talkative and friendly (to a cuddling point, haha), but I guess it would help to add a little tad of “non friendly” lure to the pot. I had read about THUT around the forums, I will save it until the chance gets higher then :slight_smile:

I am wondering… let’s say I spray them on my neck and writsts… for example. How close to them should the girls get, to let it make some kind of effect? Is it like… the pheromones can work from a long desk distance, or do I need to wrap my arms around their neck to let them smell and notice those? :wink:

jamesbonded is right, i also recommend you give Ammo and Instant Honesty a try with your $25 gift certificate… those products are very good to give the ladys a hint that you might be more than just a friend and makes them feel like you have a special connection…

TUTH can be tricky if used for attracting the ladys, because while it arouses them and they know you don’t want to be just friends they might think you just want sex from them and hold back… its best used if you are already dating…

Where did you use TUTH so far?

I guess I should follow your advice about those products then :slight_smile: Do you consider it’s enough for my purposes, as described earlier, with the IO, TUTH, and the A314, IH and AMMO I would order to complete the set? =)

To answer your question, I used TUTH as a test close to the girl already being my friend, but not interested into dating. And also with a co-worker people think she has feelings for me, but I was not really sure

Mmmm… I thought TUTH was also able to work (even if not at a high rate) when the girl was already confident about you, like… for example a friend (you know, not the random person you meet a night at a park). Since the girls I talk about already know me, work with me, and the distances are not too long (a hospital, so it’s an environment where we don’t work in desks like an office, but as a little group), and we spend many hours together, would it work as “dating” (even if without the feelings) for the TUTH? How’s your experience about that? ^^ Thanks in advance!!!

The distance for the pheromnes to work depends on many factor – open area or close room, humidity, temperature, wind direction. Generally a few meters away.

Try to get close like walk by her desk, talk to her. She will know the pheromone signal is from you.

Answering your question: the distance pheromones work depends on various conditions (outside / inside), wind or air condition makes them less effective etc… but their effectiveness mostly depends on the duration your targets are exposed to them…

So best effects would be seen if you sit in a smaller room with no air-condition and a woman for more than a few minutes …

About your TUTH experiments: The problem is if someone already has decided to just be friends its unlikely that pheromones will chance her made up opinion about you…

Wow, that’s really good, I thought the distance needed to be closer, like… talking right in front of her or something o___O;;; Does it do the effect even… after a few hours? (At work, you know, in a hospital, a shift can last like… 24 hours all in one go) How often should you re-spray it?

And I don’t get how could she know the pheromone signal is from me if, for example, there is any other male around :slight_smile: Is it because it blends with my natural smell, or how does it do it? ^^ It’s a really interesting subject!

James excellent advice not really sure even what to ask without being extremely lengthy, but right on the nose. That is the reason Iam on this site to go from just being friends…to..lovers.

Now i have a question were does A314 FIT IN and Instant Shine

888

That sounds like something I can do without problems. I’m not searching for easy targets, as said I’m somehow experimenting (of course, if sucessfull, the better, lol), but this is something really luring me, and I wanna do it in a subtle way, to not freak my co-workers away, hehe ^^

About the TUTH and the girl I talked about: :slight_smile: I get your point there. In fact, i respect her choice, and I value, cherish and treasure her friendship a lot, so I’m not pestering her neither giving her signs or suggestions about it anymore: I don’t want to risk to lose her, and I accept her “No”. I just thought that, well… if MAYBE the fact of her being close to me many hours a day, and maybe a little push because of the pheromones, change her mind somehow, someday in the future, it could be wonderful, but I’m not going to ask her out again unless I see some change in her behaviour :slight_smile: If any!

The duration for pheromones effect to last again depends on humidity, temperature, sweating, windy condition. I will say you can re-spray after 5 to 6 hours.

Even when there are other males around her, when you walk near or talk to her, she will suddenly sense pheromones signal. She will know it is from you.

Thanks a lot for the tips ^^ And for your patience: I bet not too many people is friendly and kind like you to give up to 3-4 replies to questions like this from a newbie :slight_smile:

People who already know you at least need some exposure time till they react to your new pheromone signature, so you might have to use them regularly for at least a few days till you see a change in their reactions… (but as said before - if they made up their mind already about you sexually, pheromones wont change it… its different when you meet new people… they use all input to form an opinion about you and then pheromones can make a good part of that…)

For the girl you talked about i recommend you use AMMO regularly at work if you get it, its signal is not that strong on the sexual side like that of TUTH (which is therefore not recommended for the work place…)

Its more likely that you get a response at work from AMMO than from TUTH

A314 is good for work and business to make people think you are capable, trusted and reliable.
These qualities can attract girls who are looking for ltr. It is also reported girls ‘out of the league’ will show interest in you. High status girls probably look for higher status male. Even Mharris describes A314 as sexy (not sexual).

Shine is to give you the confidence. It uplifts your mood and the mood of the girls too. She will feel she is in lght mood when around you.

You are most welcome. There are many nice and friendly people in this forum, just like magnum :wink:.

You will ge to know them soon.

James thanks so much…and for responding so fast…

I have A314 and ammo in my sights…thanks

888

Hola Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

Its OK to be skeptical, everyone is at first. Just keep a open mind know basically what to expect and you will see what mones can do for you. Also read “what mones can do and what they cant do” The link is in my signature below.

TUTH is a good choice to help you stay out of the friends box but human emotion and conditioning come into play. Your a Doctor and in your work place a man of respect. Tuth comes on strong and will cause arousal but women will not always act on that arousal in the work place because its not appropriate behavior.

You have a few options though… Use your tuth to prime them and make them aroused and then make a move when in a social venue when they will be more open to responding or acting on the vibe themselves.

Get AMMO for work situations which is more subtle sexually but has more pull to it then TUTH because of the added mones that buffer it.

Indoors the distance is not a huge issue. As you move around you leave a vapor trail (sillige) so anyone in the room can be effected after a certain amount of time. 1 to 5 minutes in there presence up to 6 to 8 feet away is the general answer but it varies and you will find indoors they work quite well.

Sprays can last from 4 to 6 hours. Oil products diffuse slowly and last up to 12.

Application points are places your body heats up naturally to aid in diffusion. Excluding pits and groin which are high in the coryneform bacteria and can convert the mones making them more stinky. Neck chest forearms back of neck are all good.

A314 is a good choice to give the Alpha vibe although being a Doctor you may already have that vibe going for you. You may want to look at IG later for a less intimidating more smooth vibe.

IH is a excellent choice to help form more rapport and connection with the ladies. While this may seem like something that will keep you in the friends box layered with a sexy masculine product it can bring more comfort and ease allowing them to be more open to feeling of attraction and arousal.

If you have questions just ask. Your GC is on its way

Tisha
Hostess/Guide

I wonder if I even had a pheromone signature before, lol :smiley: I mean, because of the surgeries and stuff, I not only need the usual showers to keep myself clean, but also to wash my hands and arms all the way like… 3-10 times a day, as an average. I bet I only smell like deodorant, haha. So anything new will be a change, for sure!

Don’t worry because I already understood pheromones are not a magic wand, and I don’t pretend to change somebody’s mind all in a sudden: If somebody said “no”, that’s a “no”, and this is not going to change the situation, at least in a short term, not even in long term… But even if it only helps to break the ice with her (you know what happens when you ask a friend out and she needs to reject you, the whole friendship cools down for a while, so she doesn’t feel too bad or give false hopes), I guess I would just like her to come back to her usual spontaneous behaviour with me before getting wary, hehe :wink:

So, I think AMMO will be my next target to add to IO (and I will save TUTH for a better chance).. maybe also some IH and… dunno if IS would be helpful here or not, or if IO + IH = Win to let her relax. :wink: So if it works, I will need to thank you again!!!