Hello From Detroit

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Hey everyone my name is Spencer and I’m 25 years old. I live in the Metro Detroit area and have access to a lot of great night life but find I rarely take advantage of it due to my shyness and inability to approach a girl. I also feel a bit intimidated by other men that are bigger than me. Consider it superiority complex of sorts or just wanting to be the alpha male but I hardly go out anymore specifically looking for women.

In high school I wasn’t the most popular, nor was I the best looking. I had my share of friends but was never interested in being in a relationship with any of them. I had my eyes on the popular hotties that I could only dream of talking to. Every now and then I would be approached by one and clam up and become very quiet .Because of that I spent a lot of time in the auto shop where I enjoyed working on cars. I was always mechanically talented and most of the class looked up to me. There were a few girls in the class but nothing I was interested in dating.

Because of this isolation I put finding a relationship on the back burner and just enjoyed my time with friends over the years. In college I worked towards my degree in Auto repair and again hang mostly with that crowd. While I did see some girls I was interested in during some of my core classes I never spoke much to them. I finally said enough is enough and started working out, getting into shape and trying to increase my sex appeal. I mean if they’re willing to come to you that just decreased half my work load.

I started gaining muscle, going to tanning salons and generally looking great. I took it a little too far and had a bad PCT after a cycle of pro-hormones. I developed gyno underneath of of my nipples and started being really self-conscious of myself. I stopped again looking for the attention of females and hung with friends/stayed home.

Now at 25 I’m back in the gym putting on muscle and getting back into shape. I’ve gotten over the gyno that is there and am going to cut in a few months to hopefully reduce it a bit. My sister is getting married in May and I wanted to try a little experimenting with some mones before that to get used to them. If I can get some more confidence with women before the wedding I know it’ll be a blast and hopefully a great night for me in the end.

I’ve done some research and was thinking about either trying Ammo or TUTH. I want something I can put on before going out and wear all night rather than something that works better applied spur of the moment. I tried something back in high school that I bought off the net. Couldn’t even remember the name but I do remember not seeing any positive things come from it. I was young and naive at the time and didn’t do much research. This time around I’ve started researching different products and came across this site. It seems like a great place and I look forward to giving it another go. Anyone that has any feedback or advice please share.

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Hi there Spencer,

Can understand being shy and being unable to approach.I still get that pretty often although its better than before.Thats interesting about your college and high school life.Must have been a bit difficult for you.I kept to myself quite a bit during those times also and just hung out with friends too.Didnt date any girls till after college(><)Cool that your good at cars and have a degree in auto repair.You must see a lot of really cool cars(^^)Thats cool that you worked out a lot but sucks about the pro-hormones.Definitely have to be careful with those.

Good that youve decided to work on yourself again and have gotten back into shape though(^^) Hmm,thats cool that you have an occasion that you want to test them out in.Will make it more interesting and will give you a good goal.Since you want something that can be put on and worn all night,ammo is definitely the better choice and is better for attraction.TUTH is good but best to only apply it when you know your close to closing the deal and usually wont attract women by itself.Some instant openness since you shy also might be useful.Will help make it easier to open up women and keep the conversation flowing.Helps avoid those awkward silences also(:-p)All the best and hope that your testing goes well and you have a good time at your sisters wedding.Mickaelia will be around to issue your gift certificate in a couple of days so would do some reading in the meantime. Dont hesitate to ask if you have any questions(^^)

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Hey Spencer,
Hello and welcome to the forum. I first want to let you know that it is my opinion that your intro post was well stated. I know how much thought goes into introducing yourself to an unknown group of people who are supposed to know what you want to know. All I can say is, good job.

I’m new to this forum also but I have had some experience with mones in the past. More here ( Hello from the Third Coast). I researched this message board for 2 months before trying their products. I started with A314 (the oil), IShine, and IH. After about 10 days I ordered some Ammo, TUTH and more IH.

My research, so far, has demonstrated to me that (for the commercial line) there are those hard hitting mones that get people’s attention and then there are the social mones that buffer the hard hitting ones in order to make people not afraid of conversing with you. This is a simple, get started explanation. You can get more info on this at The Snook's big book o' pheros for rookies

Simply Put
The Hard hitting ones are A314 ( I have used at work), Ammo (around familiar women you may want to spend more time with; I use around my wife), TUTH (use late in a night club experience or a hot and heavy sexual situation; I have it but have not had to used it yet).

Most experienced members recommend that you do not use these in combo. Instead use any one of them as a base and mellow the chosen base with one of the socials.

The socials include IShine (way cool and I use at work and privately), IH ( my favorite, really stimulates contacts to speak sincerely), and IO (I have but not tried).

Please understand that I use mones for business (What works: BUSINESS APPLICATIONS (sales, meetings, etc)) and to enhance my relationship with my wife (Married Guys Looking to Help Life at Home).

From what I’m reading in you intro that you want to have a good experience at your sister’s wedding in May. It is my opinion that between now and the wedding, try an ammo and Ishine combo, and an ammo and IH combo. Document your observations each time and review them at a later time. Leave the TUTH for when you know you can handle the interaction that these combos facilitate.

IMPORTANT: Your behavior dictates the mone expression, not the other way around. Study the mones you are using and be prepared for the expected response. Use responsibly to get desired results and do not overuse. If you do not respect the potency of these products, they will kick your a**.

My studies on this forum direct me to advise you to use TUTH to close the deal, not to begin a conversation.

As far as my personal experiences, they are very recent and very real. I have had good results at work and at home. I have over used IShine and had a let down at the end of a busy day, however the resulting restful sleep was refreshing. These are great products and my experience with the company is very positive. My response here ( Wow! This has never happened before).

This forum has a wealth of knowledge locked up in here. Just follow Steve’s instructions here (https://pheromonetalk.com/t/read-me-first-helpful-topics-on-how-to-get-around/3106) to search and here (An Introduction to Mones: Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Duration - #9 by SteveO) to start using your mones.

Don’t forget to share your experiences with us.

Go for it!

doulos

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Thanks for the warm welcome everybody. Just from browsing through the different forums/posts I can tell already I’m going to like it here. Getting ready to place an order soon. Idk maybe its the warm weather we’ve been having here I something else but I’m getting anxious to get out there and meet some new people.

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Hello Spencer and welcome to the forum.

Doulos gave you some great advice. Not much too add after that but I will add a little.

For the wedding Ammo & IO is a great thought. You might even want to add in some IH. The ammo will let the ladies know you are interested. The IO will help draw them into those intial conversations. and the IH will help generate feelings of connection and this in turn often leads to deeper discussions. You could be that sexy guy who is so easy to talk to.

For going out in the eveing it all depends on how you want to approach things. If you already have the ammo from above you can try to pair it with A314. That will help give you a very alpha male projection. Then you just have to act the part and not seem intimidated by those bigger guys. Just remember - they are bigger physically, nothing else. as long as you are looking good, then you are fine.

Let us know what you decide to do.

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Welcome to pherotalk Spencer!

I am a caribbean girl so it always confuses me when men say they want women to come to them. Does that mean you are to shy to go to them, you don’t want to get rejected or just don’t want to put in the effort?

Either way confidence is key, if you don’t have confidence when you are 300lbs it won’t be that much better when you’re 200 of muscle and looking great.

The guys have given you some great advice and I know you will find what you are looking for here.

Your gc was issued!

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So I placed my first order yesterday at 9:45 pm and already got an email that it has shipped and will arrive tomorrow morning. To me that’s amazing. Most companies besides amazon seem to take their time getting an order out. These guys/gals here sure have their stuff together.

I decided on Ammo and TUTH for starters. Ammo seemed like the easiest to get the hang of. Just spray and go. TUTH sounds like it may be useful if Ammo helps me first. Going out to the casino tomorrow night for a friends birthday. Very excited to see what happens.

Thanks for the great first time expierence shopping at your e-store. Order processing to shipping was the fastest I’ve seen. Will be a return customer based on that alone.

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So I placed my first order yesterday at 9:45 pm and already got an email that it has shipped and will arrive tomorrow morning. To me that’s amazing. Most companies besides amazon seem to take their time getting an order out. These guys/gals here sure have their stuff together.

I decided on Ammo and TUTH for starters. Ammo seemed like the easiest to get the hang of. Just spray and go. TUTH sounds like it may be useful if Ammo helps me first. Going out to the casino tomorrow night for a friends birthday. Very excited to see what happens.

Thanks for the great first time expierence shopping at your e-store. Order processing to shipping was the fastest I’ve seen. Will be a return customer based on that alone.