Hi folks, I am male 25 from Toronto , Ontario. I should be in bed right now to go to my project Mgmt. class but your forum has got me hooked.
So about me. I have been using pheromones on and off for 5 years now. Mostly ebay stuff with so so success. I have used Primal instinct mostly with very sharp negative or either positive responses from peoples. I am married so picking up girls is priority #2 (but attraction from other females does wonders to grease my male confidence gear work) . I am 6’2, fair and slightly under weight (150lbs where i should be about 175lbs). I am at a stage of mental understanding where I realize I am good looking enough to get the attention of females if I want to. But it doesn’t come easy to me and it never has (got’a dress right, drive the right car, say the right things..). My work involves accompanying/facilitating sales executives (in customer settings) to make business sense of technical solution. So I am a propeller head who is required to be in front of clients vs. his keyboard. I love my job but over the years I have gotten very involved with my work so much so ; it has been ruining my eating habits, I’m sleeping less and less ,losing weight and alos my lively personality/demeanor I once carried. I feel I need to get back to my old self i.e to work out, dress hip and hang out with friends just for the sake of good time; instead of some business motivated gathering.
About my personality. I think my natural pheromones work on a very wide wavelengths. I can sometime feel like a tank and mow down peoples when I need to.. meanwhile sometimes I am this person in the corner who is almost invisible and vulnerable to listen and do whats being asked. Unfortunately I have no control over what kind of aura I will be emitting at any given day. At days when I have presentations and I happen not feel like james bond. I just rely on a can of Red Bull and my towering height to get peoples attention and listen to what I have to say. One other thing (since it’s all about me right now :-). I feel I really am not a deal CLOSER kind of a person. But even with girls in the past, I have had the chance to be in romantic relations with girls out of my league. They have come very close to going all out on me. But for either my lack of closing power or just too naive of a nature.. they often never entangle in a sexual relationship with me. I am not implying that I have’nt had my fair share of the sexual fisasco’s. But most of these girls have connected very well on a mental level and have expressed how much they share this chemistry with me. They have also indicated they are attracted to me.. But my problem is I dont understand why even after very heated anticipation and willingness from both parties I have had trouble closing that last segment of the deal. after a while they have found me to be more of a great person to know and keep around for a rainy day.. then to tear their clothes off for. Infact some have given me “just enough” to keep me around. In summary , I seem to lose out on the last stretch of the mile.
To give you just one recent example, I was involved with this girl for years on and off in a long distance relationship. We were very compatible at mental and physical levels. When after 3 years I fly down to London UK to see her… we have nothing more then a few hours (coffee, chit+ chat bla bla!!) before we decided to part ways. This much lack of enthusiasm after we had hours of planning.. talking on the phone about how this earth shattering meeting will take place… how an eruption of our sexual desires will take place at this hotel room.. But the result was… NADA!!
anyways.. back to priority #1 from Priority #2. I would like some advise from you folks on how and if I should be looking at A315 for my work setting. Also something for my deal closing ability.. pertaining to the all aspects..
P.S. You guys are awesome.. finding this forum was like hitting the mother load of information for Phero’s. I am just so excited learning all the new abbreviated term’s and what they mean.
good thing you found this forum, you will soon find out it’s a very helpful place and the products here really do work.
sounds like you need a slight little bit of help with girls and relationships.
One product which is my favorite is Ammo, and i highly recommanded as you are 25, closer to my age.
I’v never tried Primal Instinct so i couldnt offer any help, but there are many products here to choose from, i also recommand you look into the social products such as Instant Openness and Instant Honesty.
anyway, i’m sure you will have a lot of fun here.
Edit: I don’t think there is a products called A315 here, i think you probably meant A314, it is a very serious product, great for work and getting respect from friends and colleages, but the effects can be very subtle at first so you need to be patient with it, most people go with 2-3 drops, but i suggest you start from 1 drop and work your way up. its always good to bbuffer it with some socials to make you more approachable, such as Instant Shine or Instant Honesty.
First of all, it looks like you’ve got a head-start in the sense that approaching this site you already have some basic knowledge plus some experience regarding pheromones. Primal Instinct is a decent product, but Raw Power (a product offered by Androtics) is 10 folds more smooth and well buffered around the edges to make it 10 folds better than PI. And for work, as you already seem to know, A314 is by FAR the best product when it comes to giving off a successful, and higher value vibe. It comes in oil form, so you should start off dabbing on 1 drop the first day, 2 drops the second, 3 drops the third.. etc etc, until you find your ‘sweet spot’. People will respect you greatly the higher up you go, but using too much also adds too much intimidation.. which you can buffer with some of the more social products like Instant Openness or Instant Honesty.
Regarding not being able to ‘close the deal’ too successfully, I GREATLY recommend Turn Up the Heat. Even one spray at your age will break down any last minute resistance from your partner or date, and has androstenone in it. Be careful, as you also need to test out TUTH with 1 spray 2 spray etc to find out how much your androstenone tolerance is.
Lastly, I highly recommend you read the stickies atop the Men’s Advice forums. They’re filled with valuable information that will help personalize whatever results you wish to see. Don’t hesitate to ask more questions either!! =)
Sounds like you have done a little reading and have an idea of what is going on here. Be sure to read as much as you can - start with the mens stickies first - knowledge is power.
After that I recommend starting with Ammo and a couple of the social products like Io and Instant Shine.
In regards to the other things said, I don’t really recommend Ammo as an immediate must right now. Even though its one of the best all-around products here, from reading your post it kind of makes apparent that you don’t have much of a problem in terms general attraction, but more-so just deal closing. Women seem interested in you and you connect with them either mentally or emotionally, and you say you are able to form chemistry as well. Its just your problem of finishing the deal, and taking it to the next level. And as I mentioned earlier, Turn Up The Heat is for exactly that purpose when you really wanna fight that last minute resistance.
Regarding attraction with ‘saying the right things, and driving the right car, etc’, we’re all in the same boat =). Just have to remember that 90% of the attraction is still ourselves, and 10% pheromones doing the work. You could still try Ammo if you wish, since it’s a never-go-wrong product, but in all honesty I just see your two priorities being more important than general attraction. Hence, why they’re your *‘*priorities’.
Thanks guys for all the answers and suggestions. I am blown away with the support structure here…
So I have done some more reading now. I think A314 is a must purchase for me. I am the youngest at my work and have many older people around me that are not so happy about a young guy like me in a higher postion. I have never belived in confrontations.. and my moto is to always put people at ease. So A314 (if it promises to be what it is) should get me the prop’s that I have had to fight for so far. It could technically be my daily wearer even.
I think you are soo right about the the Raw power (or similarly Primal instinct) is not for guys like me. I read the advertisments without much knowledge of the product. I have seen some really close people act really strange and distant or even angry with me. But like you said. Knowledge is power.. and I know better now.. So no more hard andro for sometime now…
Do you know if A314 any bad affect on childners. I have a 20 month baby girl in our family. I sometime go to meet famly right after work. The kids and I always hit it off.. I’m kind of their fav uncle. so I need to be aware when I should avoid kid contact.
Now If I can get my discount coupon (mod’s are you hearding me :-). I will order the A314 for sure.
About the female attractant. I have no problem making sure I dont mix the chick grabber at work or in a male contact area . I have read extensivly on Turn up the heat.. Seems like this will work great with my wife (dont be surpised. Things do mellow out after being married for a couple of years;-). But I want to be able to have something in my arsenal (or a mixture formula) that will have the girls going gaga. Obvioulsy I will be using it with caution as to avoid causing side affect to the male crowd. But what would you recommend for me as my second phero beside A314.
I failed to mention that I am of an Asian decent (South asian. My parents are from India). If that changes anything i.e doses, amounts or type of pheros I should avoid.
Raw power can be used by guys like you but you shouldn’t start out with it.
RP is the answer to Primal, The problem with primal is its not dosed right. A lot of anone and you have no real control over how much your using so it can be as you described. One day good hits the next people get volatile.
I suggest you get some A314 for work and to help build your status.
AMMO for some sexy vibes.
IH for helping you close the deal.
No kids generally start out shy around it then feel the security of the alpha male vibe and sometimes get a little clingy. If they know you already they wont be to shy. Don’t wear Primal around them.
don’t pray, just believe
if you try TOO hard to notice any “hits” you’ll probably be disappointed at first, so beware. be patient and be persistent. and most importantly, be realistic, there are a lot of good posts and stickies in the Men’s section, I suggest you have a read
