Hello from NC!

Hello everyone on PheroTalk,

Let me introduce myself. I’m 21, in college, and have some beginner experience with mones. I would describe myself as a dark complexion, thin body type but built, and pretty average looking in my opinion. People have told me I have a stern and serious personality, but I feel that I’m sometimes shy and quiet. I’ve used some mones from a friend got some from another website, I believe it was a gel pack called the Edge. It didn’t really work so recently I have been doing more research and want to try again.

I hope that mones will just let me get more open with people and make it easier to start conversations. Being in a college setting, I will have lots of opportunities to do tests for hits and other reactions from wearing mones and have the motivation to test different mixes. I was just wondering if there were anyone else on the forums around my age in college and what they used! Thanks and hopefully I can test out some quality mones. Any good suggestions for someone in my situation?

hi there,

welcome to the forum.

to open up people, try io, ih and shine.

io will make people want to talk to you. it is an ice beakers.

ih will make the conversation longer lasting and more meaningful. people will feel like knowing you for ages and open up with you.

shine will boost your confidence when mixing with people. it lifts your mood and the people around you.

have fun

People have told me I have a stern and serious personality, but I feel that I’m sometimes shy and quiet.

I hope that mones will just let me get more open with people and make it easier to start conversations. I was just wondering if there were anyone else on the forums around my age in college and what they used! Thanks and hopefully I can test out some quality mones. Any good suggestions for someone in my situation?

Hi and welcome to the forum!

This is a great forum because it’s not only a very friendly community but also because it’s very diverse. There’s plenty of people here your age, that are at uni so you’ll have lots of people to compare experiences with.

I agree with JB with the suggested phero’s :slight_smile:

Instant Openness (IO) is great to use as an ice breaker. It makes people chattier and gives you an approachable vibe making starting conversations easier. It increases the amount of conversation.

Instant Honesty (IH) is great for making the conversation last longer and have a more personal and intimate content. It’s good for deeper conversations with friends, or if you want to get closer to someone. IH increases the quality of conversation.

Both IO and IH are good social phero’s, and have great self- effects as well as effects on those around you.

The last one that JB already mentioned is Instant Shine. It’s a personal (and forum) favourite! It’s a brilliant phero that can be used on it’s own as well as in combination with other phero’s to bost them. IS does exactly what it says on the bottle…it makes you shine! It gives you a youthful, happy and approachable vibe, and boosts your confidence and is often also an energy and mood booster.

Hope that helps! Let us know if you have any questions :slight_smile:

Welcome.

If I recall Edge is primarily anone, and it sounds from your description that you are producing plenty of that already and adding extra could be counterproductive.

You might experiment with androstenols, found in ih and io. These will help conversations flow more naturally and easily.

Also of interest will be rone products. I suggest ig for first experiments. This will project a comforting, masculine vibration that tends to make people feel good around you.

Hi, welcome to the forum.

As Gone says, you should’ve seen effects from The Edge one way or the other. You want to read the links in my signature “How Can I Tell if I’m Getting Hits” as well as “What Pheromones Can and Cannot Do.” Another good thread (actually, all of the threads there are good to read) is found in the Men’s section in the sticky threads called “The Master List of Indicators of Interest.” Basically, how to tell if women are attracted to you, since they will send out far more bob-verbal signals than verbal ones.

There are a lot of college-age people here. Mr Feel Good and Msselva come to mind off the top of my head, but there are plenty more here. it’s practically a frat house some days!

As for which products, Xiphoid’s suggestions are all right on. The other guys offer great suggestions, but first and foremost, you want to get some Instant Shine into your hot little hands.

Anyway, hope this helps…

Wow thanks for the advice everyone.

I was also wondering if anyone has OD on any of the mixes above. I know it’s easy to OD on -none products but I guess it depends on the situation.

Has anyone also noticed any difference in how people act while using each of these mones? For example if you use one product around a friend one day and another one will they act differently or does it work better towards strangers who are not use to you phermone signature?

I’ve also read that mones work better when you sweat. Has anyone had this happen?

Thanks!

It is unlikely to OD on social pheromones unless you use way too much. Social pheromnes do not contain none.

You are right, different people react differently on pheromones. NOt necessary work better on stranger eventhough people who know you may be confused of the change in the signal you send out to them after using pheromones.

Sweat actually may wash away the pheromones that you have applied. However sweat contain some natural pheromones although the amount may be unknown and different for different people.

Hmmm…I haven’t OD’d as such, but you might want to be a bit cautious with instant honesty. Spray on too much and people may divulge things you didn’t want to hear…or spray it on in places that gives a lot of self-effect and you might find yourself a bit of a motormouth :roll_eyes:

I personally love IH and another social phero for communication called ComeTalkToMe2 (CTTM2), I use them almost on a daily basis with great results.
At work it’s really useful as it makes patients more relaxed and open about talking about symptoms etc and that’s obviously making my life easier when it comes to diagnosing.
At home I use IH and CTTM2 to improve the mood of my flatmate (and very good friend) and to get her more comfortable to talk about some emotionally difficult stuff she is going through at the moment. It works really well, and she’s almost like a different person when I wear this.

I’m not sure about the phero’s working better when you sweat thing. If you sweat, either because you’re at the gym or if you live somewhere warmer, the phero’s diffuse quicker so while it may seem like they work better, they wont last as long. In warmer climates you need to do top-up sprays a lot more or use an oil based phero that diffuses slower.

Hey everyone,

So being a science major and everything, I’ve decided to conduct my own little experiment. Since alcohol lowers inhibitions, I was wondering if it would amplify the effects of phero’s. I’m sure people have noticed this since I’ve read in some posts that -none products seem to work better in clubs or party situations.

In my opinion, these social pheromones seem perfect since they both make people around you feel better and also make yourself feel better. Does anyone else think wearing some -none will help break the friend barrier or will other social pheromones work better.

Thanks again!

Some say that using something like Ammo will help break the Friends Zone and that’s entirely possible, but I wouldn’t count on a pheromone to break that barrier. You gotta verbalize that yourself to truly keep (or take) yourself out of that area. Just my 2¢…

I don’t know if I’d say that alcohol amplifies the pheromones as much as lowers the target’s imhibitions about responding to the pheromone signal that they’re picking up. But I’m no scientist. :slight_smile:

Hello Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

My name is Tisha and I am the hostess and mone expert adviser here on PT.

The Edge is a good product but high in anone. Probably to high for what you had in mind. The OD effect is a term we use when someone uses to much of a anone product garnering the opposite of desired effect. I am sure this is what you experienced to some extent with The Edge.

No it skews the results with mones making them ineffective and inconsistent. Here is why…

When alcohol is inputted into our brain, it induces many forms of typical behavior outputs such as impaired judgment, extreme emotion, and slowed behavior. With alcohol, the neuron’s and chemical messengers involved in signaling are depleted and interfered. Specific chemical messengers effected by alcohol are the neurotransmitter serotonin (5 HT), gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA), and dopamine. These three neurotransmitters are key in the function of mones. All brain function depends on the balance between excitatory and inhibitory signaling in the brain. Alcohol throws this balance off leaving mones ineffective.

The socials are great for this. I suggest IO IH Ishine or CTTM which is the raw form of IO and IH without the steering components.

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OD only occurs with anone products as we define it here in PT. You can use to much of the other type mones but you typically do not get the OD effect which includes … Aggression and crankiness, The ghost effect… people ignoring you or no effect at all.

Ishine will be excellent for this, I know GW loves IG but it doesn’t apply to every persons situation and personality, Mones enhance you and IG would enhance those stern serious vibes. You want to soften not enhance those.

Yes they work on people you know as well as people you dont know, however it takes longer with those who know us well because they have preconceived notions about us. It takes longer for them to process the signal and react to it. Remember also that the effect of mones are subtle and people will mask certain emotions that confuse them or are not congruent with their original thoughts on you but they will come around after repeated exposure. Strangers have no preconceived notions so they respond more easily.

Heat from the body diffuses mones into the air. Since your body is warmer then the air it effects distance more then it does the time effectiveness of the mones. Sweat tends to diffuse them more quickly only because we tend to wipe it off or let it absorb into fabric which holds onto molecules.

Yes but as Robbie indicated the mones just open the door of opportunity. You need to take action to move out of the friends box. I suggest AMMO for that. Unlike The Edge it is a anone product that is buffered to help eliminate the OD effect

If you have any more questions just ask. Your GC is on its way :smiley:

Tisha

There is truth in what Tisha said but I think it can bear a bit more elaboration.

You are likely to experience blatant and obvious pheromone hits if the responder is intoxicated with alcohol. In a sober responder various desires and impulses may arise under exposure to pheromones, but then be subject to inhibition. Alcohol significantly lowers inhibitions so these impulses are more likely to manifest as overt and observable behavior.

As to the eratic nature of drunks, the effects of just about anything may be inconsistent with them, pheromones included. Some drunks are fairly predictable though.

Thanks for the response guys,

I just had a question about Instant Shine. I know it has the TTA pheromone in it, but how does it compare to the -nol and -none. How is it chemically different than the other pheromones and what effect does it have on our brain. Sorry of its all too scientific but I am interested in learning how it effects us.

Thanks again!

While GW makes good points above we do have studies on this. The main problem with drinking is that you cant contribute the effect of mones to the molecule alone. Its found while you may get reactions consistant with the molecule your using they have the same reaction while drinking as they do without the molecule present therefore the mone is ineffective to use and is not bringing around the lack of inhibition the alcohol is.

I assume you mean, TAA that is what Ishine is made from. First that is not its chemical name. They dont reveal that for reasearch and developement purposes. Only the lab techs and a small handfull of people know the true chemical makeup of the putatives. All I will say is that some molecules exclusive to Androtics are mutated from there origonal form to evoke a certain effect. The T series comes from one such group of mones.

The difference between nols and TAA from the T series is the chrisma factor.

Anol is fun comfortable friendly chatty open attractive. Its a great vibe to open people up and have a good time.

TAA is uplifting, magnetic confident warm youthful exuberant. It gives a feeling you can take on the world , people feel drawn to the person emitting this feeling.

Similar effect but slightly differant emotions involved

Tisha