Hello from Paris :) A few questions and the Meaning of it all

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Hey everyone :slight_smile:

So im a 21 year old Pharmacology/ Chemistry student here in France and as you can guess from what i study, i’m fascinated by all this :slight_smile:

I remember a year ago as i was curious about pheromones ( i thought if all mammals communicate this way why not humans?? ) i found the formula for -none and decided that i should try and synthesize it ( which proved catastrophic) after that i let go of the whole mone idea for a while until recently

But first let me say a little bit about myself.

Physically: I am a 6’1 175 pound athletic caucasian. My mother is Italian so i have that whole black curly hair, brown eyes, mediterranean thing going on ( not in a blatant way though since im mixed) which apparently the ladies like :slight_smile:

Character: Well basically im a fundamentally good person. Sociable, easy going. But seriously i was always told i have a heart of gold ( To the point where my teachers in high school would quote Shakespeare to describe me as " The Milk of Human Kindness"). I live to spread joy around me ( lol maybe im exaggerating a bit but you get the point). For instance i have a hard time enjoying a party if i see people on their own, not enjoying themselves etc. I’ll go and talk to them and see whats up!

I usually dont get angry easily, just go with the flow, but i wont let others walk over me though.

Now as far as what i want out of pheromones… i guess there are different sides to it.

  1. First this character of mine leads people around me to take me for granted a bit… I dont know how to express what i feel exactly in this regard but basically i’d like to throw a little more alpha character to the way people perceive me.

  2. Now concerning women, i dont have such a hard time getting IOI’s etc..
    The crowd i hang out with doesnt really do clubs… so basically just house parties, pubs etc. In these environment if i meet a girl, i’ll talk to her ( Though im not great at openers so maybe some IO to ease the entrance? ) and i can sometimes see she is interested and i easily get isolation but then i feel like the conversation often runs a little dry and we’re kinda getting TOO isolated if you know what i mean… ( this is where i think IH would help ) and i just dont bother after that point. By that i mean i feel like a i have a hard time finding subjects that would interest us both, keep conversation etc.
    In fact this is one of the reasons i came to mones… I realized that nearly every single girl i went out or had ONSs with i didnt have to really work for … And i link this to the shortage of really meaningful bf-gf relationships i’ve experienced in my life.
    Basically, i have no prob talking to girls. Its girls i find REALLY attractive that i cant handle ( duh… ^^ )

All in all i dont really want to use mones to hook up but rather to find someone i can have a real meaningful relationship with :slight_smile:

So there you go,my life story, hope it wasnt too boring. Now… to the questions :smiley:

Questions: 1) I guess this one is for the more experienced users and a deep one at that.. You know when you meet someone and sparks are just flying all over the place and you feel a real connection to them etc.. Now, i attribute this to natural mones, to the two persons being “in tune”. and that plays a big part in the way we choose our mates ( I remember reading a study somewhere that showed that we actually are more attracted to people with immune systems that are different from ours so that the eventual offsprings may have a better chance of survival. How do we know the Immune System is a good match? —> Mones :slight_smile: )

All this to say, dont you loose that aspect of things? Not in the biological sense but in the sense that you can miss those rare people you can have a real connection with in the midst of all the hits you get from people hypnotised by your wonderfully uncanny smell? Basically and in a much cornier tone, could all these pheromones make you miss true love??? :confused:

  1. This one is for the experienced users also :slight_smile: and its pretty simple. After all these years of using pheromones do you honestly find your lives to be significantly better? Not only that you are more successful with girls but do you have deeper social interactions, healthier friendships etc
    Doesnt playing with people’s emotions the way we do cause a certain detachment from “regular” people. A sense of im better than you?

So there you go, light stuff huh? ^^

hope some people will read it to the end..

Cheers

EDIT: ( Changed some stuff as i realized i may have come off as a bit of a prick ^^ )

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Hey, welcome!
Bonjour~ How is France? Enjoying it?

YOu seem like an attractive guy. IH is also good for you, like you mentioned. You seem to be good at breaking the ice, so ih would be ideal. If you want others to be more talkative at the same time, look into CTTM2. IT has enough b–nol to make women feel comfortable and bonded; at the same time, it has enough a–nol to make them gitty and all chatty…

  1. I don’t worry about mising my true loe due to mones. I want to try to hook up more, so I guess I am not as concerned as you :wink:
  2. Mones make others notice you more and gives you more attention from ladies. Of course, I dig it! :slight_smile:

Enjoy!

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Hey lol yeah all i good in good old France although the +8 hrs time difference means i’ll miss the Superbowl (again) ( random i know but its frustrating)

Anyway yeah i just realized how super corny and gay i sound by saying that mones make you miss true love… Plus its not what i really meant. The idea i was trying to convey was how maybe you would miss people that would be attracted to you naturally..

I was meaning to get CTTM2 with my first order but it is out of stock.. Any idea on when it’ll be back ? I read that IH + IO makes for a similar vibe..

Anyway before i could post on the forum i got some stuff to try the effects of different mixes and mones on me. I got IS 1x regular size and in To-Go size i got A314 b, IO, Ammo ( dunno how the -none will react on me since im young etc.. )

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What great questions those are, I never thought about that whole, “missing your true love” aspect.

But, welcome to the forum, and I hope you learn a lot, and have fun here. Everyone’s very helpful!

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Hey :slight_smile: Thanks! Cant wait to test those babies out !

Another question, are Putatives like the MX series in terms of stock management? Like once AD is out of one they wont reissue it or do they stay a little longer in stock?

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welcome slash,

i havent been to france in years, but i had lots of fun there. plus your women are beautiful. what part of are you in?

io + ih do have a similar cttm2 effect, i heard its 45%IO+45%IH+10%something else

the mx’s and p’s are supplied almost at random, you just find something you like and check back constantly. i defintiely recommend p79 and p74 while theyre still in stock. get them in at least 10mcg strength. i use them with ammo and it gives me a very sexual feeling which gets lots of ioi’s for me

good luck man, just gotta keep testing since everyone is different

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Hey jnoel sup, I’ve been reading your journal man good stuff :slight_smile:

As the title says im from the most wonderful city in the world :stuck_out_tongue: I definitely want to try P79 but in what ways do you find P74 to be different from IO ( which i just bought) or IH ( which i plan on getting with the gift card :slight_smile: ) ?

i was also thinking along the lines of P83… I am curious though how long do the To-Go’s last? Cuz im getting to nearly 200 $ of purchases and i would want them to last at least till the beginning of summer…

What would you say is the best combo to lose approach anxiety and to help with openers ( lol im stuck at “do you wanna dance” etc. too ^^ )

Thanks for the input!

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Anyone? :slight_smile:

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Welcome to pherotalk Slash!

There is good and bad in everything and I find the questions you ask and the way you think to be fascinating.

Of course if it’s not a random stranger in the relationships in terms of lovers and my boyfriend I have been totally open about pheromones.

I think the deceit is how you use whatever it is that you posses and intent has so much to do with what it is we do.

Take for instance I have been told that cops have a strong hold over men and of course hearing that or with that believe some women use it to have that control and to deceive a man.

Some women however like in marriages where their husband no longer gives them that kind of attention will use cops because they want to improve of that part of their marriage.

I believe the way a women dresses, the way she combs her hair and carries herself is to attract the opp sex no matter what we say. We don’t get our hair done and put make up to stay in and watch tv so it’s for someone else. Now dressing well and taking care of yourself and wanting to attract the opp sex does not mean you want to deceive.

There are just tools.

Pheromones do not make persons act against their will. At least the kind sold in stores. The research for mones have gone so far back it’s possible the govt has something that can do this but as for what the stores sell it doesn’t work that way.

Pheromones are tools used to send signals just like the cologne you wear or the outfit you put and its up to the person whether or not they react or how they react.

Pheromones may be simple but wearing mones, being part of this forum and this job is all tied so it’s not simple for me as wearing mones.

I believe and maybe the old members have vouched that the wearing of mones, understanding human nature, my nature more and being aware of certain things have caused my eyes to open up.

Knowledge is power.

I hope this helped to answer your questions.

I feel I relate to how you think in a way and being nice is hard because of how the world is and you tend to get 9-10 persons wanting to use you until you are dry and then dumb you on the side of the road and they will if you let them.

Products like IJ and tuth will help you give off a different vibe and women won’t just see you as the friend or the dependable guy but someone they can have fun with.

On the downside because of the high none content it may offend and attract the wrong crowd of women.

Ammo will give off a masculine vibe and will let the ladies know you are interested.

A314 is quite a good mones for work and for attraction if you know how to use it well. The men can help you with that.

Putatives are not like experimental mixes because once they have been tested you will still see them. However because of rolling blackouts any of our products can go out of stock without any notice with no eta as to when it will be back.

Good luck with these and let your conscious be your guide. :smiley:

Your gc was issued! :smiley:

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I get that pheromones wont make other people around you act against their will, they will just push them in a certain direction if used properly…

Thank you for giving me advice about the IJ got some to go and will put it to use with maybe some socials like IS to buffer it?

As far as the whole relationship thing. I was thinking more along the lines of how when wearing mones, and thus hiding/improving/shading your natural self, you might miss people that are in tune, charmed, or wtvr with your natural pheromonal and characterial output and that may not react the same way to the mones you are giving out

For instance, one of my closest friends i met at a party and we just knew right there and then that there was something special about the way we were interacting. I think she is attractive and she shares that feeling towards me but there’s never been anything sexual about our relationship. Now had i been wearing AMMO or TUTH or wtvr that night, things might have been very different between us too… Do you see where i am getting at?

I think of it like our natural pheromones were like special custom made IH or smth for one another…

Anyway i guess there isnt really an answer to this question. Just wanted to raise it though and see how you guys felt about it. Funny how only girls have been responding to it ^^

Cheers

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Maybe you are right we can never truly know. I don’t think you know for sure if you were wearing these products if things would turn out differently.

I feel that pheromones bring out what is already there and if someone does not like you or if they are not attracted to you no amount of pheromones will work to make them feel that way.

The creator gave us knowledge to better our lives and the lives of others. We had donkeys before now we have vehicles and soon vehicles that can fly.

Pheromones is just another one of man’s inventions used to enhance life and just like everything can be used for good or evil.