Hello from pheremone experimenter

Hello. I’ve been experimenting wih pheremones off and on for about two years. I used this product called Perception, which is a sort of gel packet that has two “doses”.

My interest in pheremones is mostly to enhance my likeability and respect. I’m a pretty “anti-social” kind of person, always had problems as a kid with social situations and picking up on the little cues. Maybe I have a bit of Asperger’s Syndrome/Autism- I was born with alot of health problems and my parents were told I’d be little taller than a dwarf. Now I’m currently 5’7 so I beat that by a few inches, and I don’t think I’m unattractive (I’m white, light olive skin, dark hair). I’ve also struggled with depression, and social phobia and problems being assertive. So I’m looking not so much to attract people, but to get more respect.

As anybody knows the economy isn’t great and I’ve had trouble finding good work, it’s been like this a while (I make some money off eBay, but don’t laugh if I say I still live at home). About a year and a half ago I got what I thought was a good job interview and I blew it, I didn’t know what to say. I got cleaned up, trimmed up my beard, put on good clothes, but blew the interview I guess because I was too “nice” and let a black guy that was late to the interview go first. When asked about what was positive that I could bring to the company, I said I’m an honest person that enjoys helping people. Then list your greatest accomplishment. Bingo, I had a problem there. I said learning to drive was my biggest accomplishment, since I was told as a kid that it would be difficult, and eventually in my mid 20’s I tackled it. I guess that didn’t impress the interviewer at all. I think in this case being too honest hurt me. I’m an honest person by nature and deception doesn’t come easily to me, I was raised with “honesty is the best policy”. I also regret to say I wasn’t wearing any pheremones during the interview, if that would give a bonus. Looking back it was a crap job anyways, I’d really like to work in a Starbucks serving coffee (I love coffee, and I like the atmosphere at Starbucks) but they are on the skids, so I figured any job would be a good start.

All that is pretty ironic since I took alot of psychology in college. Knowing all that theory all well and good, but feeling socially crippled doesn’t seem to translate it well- I feel like I can spot peoples motivations a bit better, but learning to be friendly, get peoples attention, and spot your vulnerabilities and hide them isn’t something you can get in a book. I’m actually sort of interested in the whole “game” pickup psychology as it seems to be more practical and intriguing, and seems to work (not that I’ve ever used it… that’s another issue with me, I have trouble relating to women and only had one girlfriend and it went nowhere. I had a somewhat “conservative” childhood and didn’t fool around- I was a “good” kid).

To be honest I haven’t noticed anything shocking happen wearing the pheremones. People do seem to treat you with a little more attention and be friendlier, but certainly they don’t fall head over heels for you. Men do seem to give you a little more attention, as well, taking your more seriously- but it’s not a huge difference and I’m not sure I’d call it all that significant. I live in the Central Florida area and people here are gruff and treat each other in a curt manner alot (especially the transplants from the Northeast), so I pick up on these things.

What I have noticed giving me alot more respect… I ride a large scooter (Honda Reflex) and a Ninja 250. I’ve been doing this over 3 years now, ever since gas prices started rising. If you go into a store wearing boots, a jacket, and gloves, it really gets peoples attention. They give you alot more respect and often call you “sir”, something that’s pretty rare otherwise. Wierd, huh? The first day I hopped on my scooter and rode down to the grocery store a couple years ago, I had an older woman follow me around and actually try to help me out BUYING A CAN OF BEANS. It was truely bizarre. All I was wearing were some combat boots and a motorcycle jacket. She probably would have laughed if she saw the particular “bike” I was riding (Honda Metropolitan- top speed 40 mph), but I guess I was dressed enough as a bad boy in her mind distract her from the monotony of a grocery store at 10 AM. Incidentally I don’t wear the clothing to “hit” on anybody, it’s more to prevent road rash (I’ve been down once, the gloves saved my hand).

Hi daedelus,
Nice long introduction.

Sorry to hear about your time as a kid.

I have never Percepton. But you can try the product here especially Ammo which is a general attractant and a mild sexual attractant.

There are also many social pheros like IO, IH and instant shine to increase your social ability

Have fun

Hello Daedelus & welcome to this forum Pherotalk :slight_smile: Yes i agreed with my buddy Jamesbonded there that your introduction is long one but a good one :smiley: When i read about your intro there about when you are a kid, it also remind me of my teenage days, your situation is like mine so i know how you feel there. Not all of us have good teenage days.

Anyway about the pheromone that you used is named Perception right? I have never heard of it but you can try the pheromones here like my buddy recommended there. If you have any questions about the pheros here or how they work & you are interested to buy the pheros here, feel free to check this forum & ask any of the experienced ones here. They are helpful & friendly :slight_smile: I hope you will enjoy yourself in here :smiley: See you :slight_smile:

Thanks for the welcome.

welcome to the dark side, very interesting intro you got there, if you want respect, maybe you should try A314, that + instant shine is probably good for interview.

If someone can not see that you have such great gifts, that is not a company you want to work for. You sound like an employee any well run company would want on their team.

You sound delicious to me, and have a lot together. I am shocked you have issues with women, women tend to go for the strong, silent type that you seem to be. I used to be that way, not noticing when people were into me.

I would order some Ammo and Instant Shine. I am sure a bit later A314 would be a definite as well. Remember to smile, it increases your face value!

Wow, I’m flattered.

Silent type, yes. Strong… not really. I’m a big neurotic. I’m willfull but neurotic, sometimes brooding. Maybe I’m strong because I admit my fears and limitations, but it’s a strength not everybody appreciates.

The truth is alot of people appreciate “Men of action” more than brooding types. One of my weaknesses is I think I need to cultivate more arrogance (or assurance? It depends on how you look at it) to get along where I live (Orlando area). My parents are from the lower midwest, and my dad in particular was a real wallflower, arrogance wasn’t something that I was raised with (plus, I was a Boy Scout… :slight_smile:. I think the Japanese have a term for the “face” thing, the one you show to the outside world (the Japanese word escapes me at the moment)- I was raised without much of that. In some regions and situations in the US, you have to have that, you can’t be too “Down to Earth” and honest about yourself, people don’t appreciate that as much as somebody who is cocky. You’ve got to sort of lie about how good you are, not be too humble.

That motorcycle jacket anecdote was just a demonstration on my accidental discovery of the effects of image on a person’s status. People imagine everybody on a bike is a badass, but in reality, there are the “bad boys” on bikes, but there are just as many “nice guys”, too, but it doesn’t really change the perception. It would be nice to have a little more of that enhanced status all the time. Maybe not quite so intimidating, though. I get the feel I actually scare the hell out of some people dresed like that, particularly men, but older women (30+) went out of their way to help me, which was new (I observed this alot). Usually, they ignore me (younger women don’t seem to notice so much, interestingly enough).

My only close female friend was a friend in highschool. We were fairly close and had similar values, but I never took it beyond that level, because of the religious differences (she was Mormon), even though I believe she was attracted to me, I knew it wouldn’t work out- people with that deep of convictions don’t change, and I certainly wasn’t going to become Mormon any time soon. I also had some other female aquaintances but wasn’t really into dating, no idea where to start, and was going to “wait until marriage” anyways (BTW, I’m no longer religiously conservative). My brother’s girlfriend also flirted around with me in college and they were breaking up (or so I thought, she couldn’t make up her mind), and that caused a whole heap of problems because I wasn’t so expert on knowing serious flirting from teasing, or judging boundaries- it ended up “breaking my heart”, and that’s kind of soured me to women. Looking back it was for the best because she was not remotely stable mentally and it turned out she was borderline abusive, probably borderline personality or somesuch crap. I’m not good at picking up those kind of games with people, I’m more into honesty, but I’m working on trying to figure it out.

Apologies for the long post.

Hello Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

The reason your not seeing much with perception is because its not a great product. I am not saying that because I am the mod here either. I have it and hate it and I cant even unload what I have on anyone cause no one wants it LOL . It hasnt gotten good reviews. You would have dont better with the SOE gel packs.

I suggest you get some A314, if upping your status and respect is what your after that if the best product to get for it. If price on the A314 is a problem for you ( you mention the economy) you can try the A314 spray mixes that are in testing They have been around a while and the guys like them. MX102, MX103 MX104 are good to go with. Keep in mind when choosing them that MX103 is kinda stinky. A314 oil based will last a good long time for you though so that would be my first choice.

I also suggest you try some Ishine and IO.

Ishine is charismatic, youthful, fun, uplifting and draws people to you.

IO is chatting friendly fun and help the wearer and people exposed open up more.

If you have any questions just ask.

:smiley: Your GC will be in your email box shortly :smiley:

Have fun

Tisha

To be honest I only wore it a few times over a period of about 6 months (7-8 times, casual social interactions at coffee shops, grocery stores, etc), and did not wear it consistantly so I can’t be a perfect judge of its effectiveness. I noticed people being a little more socialable or taking more interest, that was all. I also noticed an elevation in mood, and that was probably the most significant result of using it- not a huge amount but definitely detectable and I believe it also contribute to people taking notice- sort of like a cloud of warm fuzzies floating around me. To be honest, that was enough for me. But it’s too expensive in the gel pack form, but was a good way to try it out. I’ll probably try a different product in the future, maybe an oil based product that doesn’t wash off so easily and builds up- I plan on trying a low dose anyways.

I’m mostly interested in something that is balanced, and not exclusively sexually oriented. There are alot of situations like I mentioned where I can come off as gruff (wearing a motorcycle jacket, as I said, intimidates some people when I don’t want it to… people are scared sometimes of the “big bad biker”), other situations where I’m ignored, or it feels like it. On the whole I get the feeling I don’t radiate alot of warm fuzzies like I should.

If it matters at all, I don’t bathe every day. I shower about once a week in the winter (and wash pits and nether regions with a wash cloth, soap + water and thai deodorant stick every day, just so I don’t stink), and sometimes twice a day in the summer here in Florida. That might affect my perception of pheremones- they might not be adding alot in certain circumstances.

Thanks for your concern about my finances, but they aren’t an issue for me. My family has money, my interest in a job was mostly to get a life. I have investments and make some money on eBay, and my dad doesn’t pressure me to much to “Get a life” as I am lucky to be alive at all. We aren’t fabulously wealthy- we certainly don’t live like it, but we’ld probably be minor nouveau riche, lower upper class in different circumstances (not owning 3 houses, one of which sits empty and can’t get insurance for… but I digreess). I am thirfty by nature though, and like I said you’ld never know we had money by how we live, except we live in a nice neighborhood and have a garage full of bikes (all used, no 15,000 dollar Harleys in there).

I ordered some “samples” in the “to-go” sizes. Being as I already have some other pheremone stuff to try out, I figure that would be a good size. I ordered double strength of most of the social pheromones because I think those might give me the most interesting/relevent results, if they work for me, but just for fun I also ordered Instant Female Magic (which I’m gathering is probably androsteindone) and “Turn up the Heat”. I go to the coffee shop occasionally so it should be interesting to see reactions. I only occasionaly see reactions when using Perceptions, and it might just as well be my imagination- I do know it has a mild effect on my mood, and the smell is very interesting (no particular smell, but anything I wear over it smells more intense), but it will be interesting to play around more with individual pheromones (I probably need to try a large, single dose of one of the “Instant” sprays) and see if that does anything). I’ll probably need “Instant Shine” more if it works- if it works that’s probably what I need and people seem reluctant to initiate conversation with me- alot of people when I see them, even if I’m in a decent mood, are not themselves happy.

There is no A314 in a spray/non-oil form? I like sprays because this allows me to put them in an atomizer and carry it around and re-apply. Depending on what I’m doing, fragrances won’t hang around- anything but a short trip (2-6 miles) on a motorcycle pretty much blows down alot of fragrances to the point all you can smell is the basenotes and maybe some of the stronger middle notes (I’ve notice alot of the light marine/ozone fragrances are pretty much dead after even a short trip). It also depends alot on what I’m wearing. If I’m wearing a solid jacket and gauntlet gloves, that tends to protect anything you put on your arms from being blown too much (and a helmet does help if I put anything behind my ears, but there’s still alot of airflow, like sticking your head in front of a slow fan), but half the year in Florida mostly I wear a mesh jacket and perforated gloves, which is pretty much like wearing nothing. I tend to like scented stick deodorants for that reason, moreso than colognes. Much more resistance to the wind, alot slower release.

Again, thanks.

Please keep us informed of how things work for you. we love hearing the crazy stories!

MX172 to MX175 are experimental spray variations of A314. Although oil based fragrance lasts longer then alcohol (spray) based. I am not quite sure about the windy situation though.
A314 lasts for one full day on its own, so that should not be a problem.